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stopstandthere wrote:I hope his injury is trivial. Tell me he is not Embiid.
Knicks already stated he's playing in Summer League. He's already been cleared to practice. They shut him down as a precaution but he's OK.
BasketballJones wrote:I heard he broke his hip.I thought you were talking about Phil.
BRIGGS wrote:I dont want to hear Porzingis has some kind injury. Hes the future--these guys like Affalo and maybe Lopez PURE band aids. I want us to have a good SL look around be aggressive to see if there are other young guys on our team or OTHER teams we can add. We need to fend for ourselves get our own players and without draft picks it wont that easy. Im not in favor of bring back Admundson and Thomas.
I think with those 2 we are at least a playoff team, maybe even a title contender. phil knows what he's doing, i think greg monroe was a smoke screen and thomas and admundson were the real targets. what those 2 brought to the triangle can not be replace. I say split the remainingg cap between them.
knicks1248 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:I dont want to hear Porzingis has some kind injury. Hes the future--these guys like Affalo and maybe Lopez PURE band aids. I want us to have a good SL look around be aggressive to see if there are other young guys on our team or OTHER teams we can add. We need to fend for ourselves get our own players and without draft picks it wont that easy. Im not in favor of bring back Admundson and Thomas.I think with those 2 we are at least a playoff team, maybe even a title contender. phil knows what he's doing, i think greg monroe was a smoke screen and thomas and admundson were the real targets. what those 2 brought to the triangle can not be replace. I say split the remainingg cap between them.
How sad is it that I didn't immediately realize your comment was sarcasm?
nyk4ever wrote:the only person making a big deal about porzingis injury is briggs.
True. Actually the news has never been official. Am I correct?
stopstandthere wrote:Knicks haven't reported it. Kristaps brother talked about it. Berman reported he was playing in the summer league.nyk4ever wrote:the only person making a big deal about porzingis injury is briggs.True. Actually the news has never been official. Am I correct?
stopstandthere wrote:nyk4ever wrote:the only person making a big deal about porzingis injury is briggs.True. Actually the news has never been official. Am I correct?
The Knicks never talk about injuries. We don't even know what was wrong with Melo and why he needed surgery.
CrushAlot wrote:stopstandthere wrote:Knicks haven't reported it. Kristaps brother talked about it. Berman reported he was playing in the summer league.nyk4ever wrote:the only person making a big deal about porzingis injury is briggs.True. Actually the news has never been official. Am I correct?
Thanks for telling. I believe Phil and his team has done the due diligence on Kristaps sufficiently.
VCoug wrote:stopstandthere wrote:nyk4ever wrote:the only person making a big deal about porzingis injury is briggs.True. Actually the news has never been official. Am I correct?
The Knicks never talk about injuries. We don't even know what was wrong with Melo and why he needed surgery.
Nice. In Phil We Trust.
VCoug wrote:How sad is it that I didn't immediately realize your comment was sarcasm?
My guess is you have been subjected to the last year on this board of the same people scheming on how the Knicks can get better player by requiring the rest of the entire NBA function in a completely inept manner.
Some fans hope their franchises and their front offices get better because collectively those key people making decisions are GETTING SMARTER AND MAKING BETTER DECISIONS.
And there are some fans who believe their franchises can get better if EVERY OTHER KEY DECISION MAKER ON EVERY OTHER TEAM NOT THE KNICKS OPERATES AGAINST THEIR OWN SELF INTEREST INTENTIONALLY.
It's just beyond bizarre how defensive those people get as well. This past week, someone suggested sending Jose Calderon as part of a package to get Giannis Antekoumpono.
knicks1248 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:I dont want to hear Porzingis has some kind injury. Hes the future--these guys like Affalo and maybe Lopez PURE band aids. I want us to have a good SL look around be aggressive to see if there are other young guys on our team or OTHER teams we can add. We need to fend for ourselves get our own players and without draft picks it wont that easy. Im not in favor of bring back Admundson and Thomas.I think with those 2 we are at least a playoff team, maybe even a title contender. phil knows what he's doing, i think greg monroe was a smoke screen and thomas and admundson were the real targets. what those 2 brought to the triangle can not be replace. I say split the remainingg cap between them.
We better make the playoffs , no more misery of giving away high picks
smackeddog wrote:For me the problem is likely after we've signed these role players, Melo will cry and publically demand a trade leading us to getting cents in the dollar. Can't really evaluate these acquisitions until he does this.
Thats the chess move Phil has in his back pocket. He doesn't care if he builds a championship team during Melo's era or not. If Melo doesn't like the strategy, then he will lift his no trade clause and he will be traded. Eitherway, it's a win...win for Phil. Otherwise, Melo has to honor his contract and stay the course. But I like that fact that Phil is not going to over pay someone just to do it. Or just because others are doing it. Carroll is making Melo type money, which is crazy. This is why these kids in basketball camps are being pushed so hard from low income families. It's like winning the lotto. And it's only going to get worst. I hope these contracts are not guaranteed. Because half these FA's will not match their return on investment. More money, more distractions, more problems. How come I don't hear about these contracts being performance base. I understand everybody is being over paid, but it should be based on a performance or individual goal.
VCoug wrote:stopstandthere wrote:nyk4ever wrote:the only person making a big deal about porzingis injury is briggs.True. Actually the news has never been official. Am I correct?
The Knicks never talk about injuries. We don't even know what was wrong with Melo and why he needed surgery.
Actually there have been articles about Melo's surgery.
Why Carmelo Anthony is down but not out after knee surgery Featured
Written by Laura Dyrda | Sunday, 22 February 2015 00:00
Orthopedic injuries are a hazard of the job for professional athletes. Yet, most athletes are able to undergo treatment — sometimes surgery — and then return to an elite level of play.This past week, New York Knicks All-Star Carmelo Anthony underwent a patella tendon debridement and repair after suffering chronic issues with his knee. Answorth Allen, MD, performed the procedure and Mr. Anthony could spend a few months in rehabilitation.
"The patellar tendon was too damaged to repair on its own. The procedure was to remove the damaged portion of the patellar tendon and then repair the rest," says Derek Ochiai, MD, an arthroscopic surgeon and sports medicine physician in Arlington, Va. "The knee cap tendon is degenerative, so they cleaned out the degenerative part of the tendon and attached the graft to the knee cap."
There is some new innovation in tendon repair, the FAST procedure — focused aspiration of scar tissue — that has been performed successfully on other professional athletes with a similar condition. This office-based procedure uses a needle with high energy untrasonic energy at the tip to debride the tendon without cutting it.
While the Knicks' season may continue a downward slope after losing their star player indefinitely, there's little to fear. The injury is relatively common in basketball players; in fact, its nickname is "jumper's knee" and while a vast majority of these types of injuries are treated non-surgically, surgical intervention is required.
There was some criticism thrown at Mr. Anthony's decision to undergo surgery mid-season. Mr. Anthony announced he would play in the 2015 All Star game last weekend before undergoing surgery, which some fear could put him at higher risk of additional injury. But, there really wasn't much to fear.
"This isn't the type of injury where he needed surgery immediately," he says. "Having the surgery now or a few months from now wouldn't impact his long-term prognosis. The knee wouldn't have degenerated further from playing in the All Star game."
Mr. Anthony hopes to return to training during the summer months to prepare for the 2015 preseason, but there isn't a guaranteed timetable.
"Every athlete is different and will respond differently," says Dr. Ochiai. "Typically, they are able to return to play within two or three months after surgery, but the time could be longer. It's about trying to optimize the tendon enough so it will respond to physical therapy and gain strength back. Then they're looking for range of motion to return and the athlete must trust the knee enough to use it like normal."
Another basketball star a few miles to the west knows this all too well. After suffering two significant knee injuries — and two surgical repairs — Chicago Bulls' Derrick Rose took a long road to recovery. Although he's played since the beginning of the 2014 season, and spent the summer playing with the U.S. Men's Team, Mr. Rose is still learning to trust his knee enough to return consistently to form.
By contrast, Minnesota Vikings star Adrian Peterson underwent a similar knee surgery and returned to the field — explosive as ever — in eight months.
"Bodies heal at different rates, and athletes have to find the right balance to push themselves but not over extend," says Dr. Ochiai. "The physical therapist and athletic trainers are a vital part of the recovery team and helping the athletes return to play after surgery. There is a gradual progression. Pushing themselves too fast can undo the benefits of surgery and pushing too slow could mean they'll never reach their potential."
Most high-level athletes are very motivated to return to play and partner with their specialists to train and return at the elite level.
http://www.beckersspine.com/sports-medic...
nixluva wrote:VCoug wrote:stopstandthere wrote:nyk4ever wrote:the only person making a big deal about porzingis injury is briggs.True. Actually the news has never been official. Am I correct?
The Knicks never talk about injuries. We don't even know what was wrong with Melo and why he needed surgery.
Actually there have been articles about Melo's surgery.Why Carmelo Anthony is down but not out after knee surgery Featured
Written by Laura Dyrda | Sunday, 22 February 2015 00:00
Orthopedic injuries are a hazard of the job for professional athletes. Yet, most athletes are able to undergo treatment — sometimes surgery — and then return to an elite level of play.This past week, New York Knicks All-Star Carmelo Anthony underwent a patella tendon debridement and repair after suffering chronic issues with his knee. Answorth Allen, MD, performed the procedure and Mr. Anthony could spend a few months in rehabilitation.
"The patellar tendon was too damaged to repair on its own. The procedure was to remove the damaged portion of the patellar tendon and then repair the rest," says Derek Ochiai, MD, an arthroscopic surgeon and sports medicine physician in Arlington, Va. "The knee cap tendon is degenerative, so they cleaned out the degenerative part of the tendon and attached the graft to the knee cap."
There is some new innovation in tendon repair, the FAST procedure — focused aspiration of scar tissue — that has been performed successfully on other professional athletes with a similar condition. This office-based procedure uses a needle with high energy untrasonic energy at the tip to debride the tendon without cutting it.
While the Knicks' season may continue a downward slope after losing their star player indefinitely, there's little to fear. The injury is relatively common in basketball players; in fact, its nickname is "jumper's knee" and while a vast majority of these types of injuries are treated non-surgically, surgical intervention is required.
There was some criticism thrown at Mr. Anthony's decision to undergo surgery mid-season. Mr. Anthony announced he would play in the 2015 All Star game last weekend before undergoing surgery, which some fear could put him at higher risk of additional injury. But, there really wasn't much to fear.
"This isn't the type of injury where he needed surgery immediately," he says. "Having the surgery now or a few months from now wouldn't impact his long-term prognosis. The knee wouldn't have degenerated further from playing in the All Star game."
Mr. Anthony hopes to return to training during the summer months to prepare for the 2015 preseason, but there isn't a guaranteed timetable.
"Every athlete is different and will respond differently," says Dr. Ochiai. "Typically, they are able to return to play within two or three months after surgery, but the time could be longer. It's about trying to optimize the tendon enough so it will respond to physical therapy and gain strength back. Then they're looking for range of motion to return and the athlete must trust the knee enough to use it like normal."
Another basketball star a few miles to the west knows this all too well. After suffering two significant knee injuries — and two surgical repairs — Chicago Bulls' Derrick Rose took a long road to recovery. Although he's played since the beginning of the 2014 season, and spent the summer playing with the U.S. Men's Team, Mr. Rose is still learning to trust his knee enough to return consistently to form.
By contrast, Minnesota Vikings star Adrian Peterson underwent a similar knee surgery and returned to the field — explosive as ever — in eight months.
"Bodies heal at different rates, and athletes have to find the right balance to push themselves but not over extend," says Dr. Ochiai. "The physical therapist and athletic trainers are a vital part of the recovery team and helping the athletes return to play after surgery. There is a gradual progression. Pushing themselves too fast can undo the benefits of surgery and pushing too slow could mean they'll never reach their potential."
Most high-level athletes are very motivated to return to play and partner with their specialists to train and return at the elite level.
http://www.beckersspine.com/sports-medic...
This is a fucking joke, right? This isn't an official announcement by the team or the doctor who worked on Melo. This is some random article in some random publication I've never heard of. Do you really need to defend literally everything this team does?
VCoug wrote:nixluva wrote:VCoug wrote:stopstandthere wrote:nyk4ever wrote:the only person making a big deal about porzingis injury is briggs.True. Actually the news has never been official. Am I correct?
The Knicks never talk about injuries. We don't even know what was wrong with Melo and why he needed surgery.
Actually there have been articles about Melo's surgery.Why Carmelo Anthony is down but not out after knee surgery Featured
Written by Laura Dyrda | Sunday, 22 February 2015 00:00
Orthopedic injuries are a hazard of the job for professional athletes. Yet, most athletes are able to undergo treatment — sometimes surgery — and then return to an elite level of play.This past week, New York Knicks All-Star Carmelo Anthony underwent a patella tendon debridement and repair after suffering chronic issues with his knee. Answorth Allen, MD, performed the procedure and Mr. Anthony could spend a few months in rehabilitation.
"The patellar tendon was too damaged to repair on its own. The procedure was to remove the damaged portion of the patellar tendon and then repair the rest," says Derek Ochiai, MD, an arthroscopic surgeon and sports medicine physician in Arlington, Va. "The knee cap tendon is degenerative, so they cleaned out the degenerative part of the tendon and attached the graft to the knee cap."
There is some new innovation in tendon repair, the FAST procedure — focused aspiration of scar tissue — that has been performed successfully on other professional athletes with a similar condition. This office-based procedure uses a needle with high energy untrasonic energy at the tip to debride the tendon without cutting it.
While the Knicks' season may continue a downward slope after losing their star player indefinitely, there's little to fear. The injury is relatively common in basketball players; in fact, its nickname is "jumper's knee" and while a vast majority of these types of injuries are treated non-surgically, surgical intervention is required.
There was some criticism thrown at Mr. Anthony's decision to undergo surgery mid-season. Mr. Anthony announced he would play in the 2015 All Star game last weekend before undergoing surgery, which some fear could put him at higher risk of additional injury. But, there really wasn't much to fear.
"This isn't the type of injury where he needed surgery immediately," he says. "Having the surgery now or a few months from now wouldn't impact his long-term prognosis. The knee wouldn't have degenerated further from playing in the All Star game."
Mr. Anthony hopes to return to training during the summer months to prepare for the 2015 preseason, but there isn't a guaranteed timetable.
"Every athlete is different and will respond differently," says Dr. Ochiai. "Typically, they are able to return to play within two or three months after surgery, but the time could be longer. It's about trying to optimize the tendon enough so it will respond to physical therapy and gain strength back. Then they're looking for range of motion to return and the athlete must trust the knee enough to use it like normal."
Another basketball star a few miles to the west knows this all too well. After suffering two significant knee injuries — and two surgical repairs — Chicago Bulls' Derrick Rose took a long road to recovery. Although he's played since the beginning of the 2014 season, and spent the summer playing with the U.S. Men's Team, Mr. Rose is still learning to trust his knee enough to return consistently to form.
By contrast, Minnesota Vikings star Adrian Peterson underwent a similar knee surgery and returned to the field — explosive as ever — in eight months.
"Bodies heal at different rates, and athletes have to find the right balance to push themselves but not over extend," says Dr. Ochiai. "The physical therapist and athletic trainers are a vital part of the recovery team and helping the athletes return to play after surgery. There is a gradual progression. Pushing themselves too fast can undo the benefits of surgery and pushing too slow could mean they'll never reach their potential."
Most high-level athletes are very motivated to return to play and partner with their specialists to train and return at the elite level.
http://www.beckersspine.com/sports-medic...This is a fucking joke, right? This isn't an official announcement by the team or the doctor who worked on Melo. This is some random article in some random publication I've never heard of. Do you really need to defend literally everything this team does?
You can do some research yourself on the Knicks Team Dr. who performed the surgery. The surgery was described in brief by the Knicks but the full description of exactly what they did is not in their reports. It's common knowledge to any Orthopedic Surgeon based on what they stated was done. So the article I posted is just a more full description of exactly what they did to Melo's Knee.
NEW YORK -– The New York Knickerbockers announced today that Carmelo Anthony will have season-ending left knee surgery. The procedure, which will be performed by Team Orthopedist Dr. Answorth Allen, includes a left knee patella tendon debridement and repair.
http://www.nba.com/knicks/carmelo-anthon...