A bit of SL perspective…
A Piston's fan tweeted Marks about taking Stanley Johnson over Winslow after a single SL game.
Marks' responses:
Good or bad- hard to put that much faith into SL results.
Galloway had one outstanding game in SL last year, if I remember correctly, hardly gave us reason to believe that he would be one of the top rookies in the league last year.
The things any rookies or SL invitees show in practice- which none of us are seeing- are as important as anything in the SL games, IMO.
WaltLongmire wrote:A bit of SL perspective…
A Piston's fan tweeted Marks about taking Stanley Johnson over Winslow after a single SL game.
Marks' responses:
Good or bad- hard to put that much faith into SL results.
Galloway had one outstanding game in SL last year, if I remember correctly, hardly gave us reason to believe that he would be one of the top rookies in the league last year.
The things any rookies or SL invitees show in practice- which none of us are seeing- are as important as anything in the SL games, IMO.
Stanley was just as good as Winslow the best player yesterday was turner. Kaminsky who start off slow could've had a monster ha,e as he was 19-11 with 2 min left in the 3rd but what I saw was enough I liked all of the top tier rookies yesterday they all showed well. The one guy who was a udfa who looked good was branden dawson
I think a good rookie "should" play well here. It's not the end all but I think it's a good base to start
Travis Wear has a twin, thought it was him I saw yesterday.
Stanley Johnson is going to have a really good NBA career.
Stanley Johnson looks great again
Yet to see a big man in this SL(bar Turner) that has an average post game. I just saw someone in the first half take a hook shot from the free throw line, terrible.
I have seen some spectacular play by these top picks. I'm very impressed the nba has a lot of flush high caliber talent coming in
I like Stanley Johnson's game a lot. I was hoping the Knicks would take a look at him, but I don't think they ever seriously did.
Hopefully Nate Wolters gets his deserving nba job guy is good every game.
BRIGGS wrote:Hopefully Nate Wolters gets his deserving nba job guy is good every game.
funny ... wolters deserves nothing.
Kaminsky solid again. His defense stil is a question mark but the pluses are solid.
BRIGGS wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Kaminsky solid again. His defense stil is a question mark but the pluses are solid.
Nice d by Frank there
watched most of the game. His defense is atrocious and I don't think that he can ever be a passable defender.
mreinman wrote:BRIGGS wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Kaminsky solid again. His defense stil is a question mark but the pluses are solid.
Nice d by Frank there
watched most of the game. His defense is atrocious and I don't think that he can ever be a passable defender.
As a former teacher I might accept this as an attempt at a topic sentence, but you might want to include some specific examples to support your main idea...
I was not able to see the game, so all I can do is look at the stat line which, among other things, shows a =/- of +7, 8 rebounds and 2 blks.
Can you actually describe why his D is atrocious and why, in your opinion, he will never be a passable defender?
Briggs was responding to specific things as he watched the game, you made a somewhat broad statement- it would be nice to follow with some examples.
Just a thought.
WaltLongmire wrote:mreinman wrote:BRIGGS wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Kaminsky solid again. His defense stil is a question mark but the pluses are solid.
Nice d by Frank there
watched most of the game. His defense is atrocious and I don't think that he can ever be a passable defender.
As a former teacher I might accept this as an attempt at a topic sentence, but you might want to include some specific examples to support your main idea...I was not able to see the game, so all I can do is look at the stat line which, among other things, shows a =/- of +7, 8 rebounds and 2 blks.
Can you actually describe why his D is atrocious and why, in your opinion, he will never be a passable defender?
Briggs was responding to specific things as he watched the game, you made a somewhat broad statement- it would be nice to follow with some examples.
Just a thought.
Don't wait up for an answer on that 1
crzymdups wrote:I like Stanley Johnson's game a lot. I was hoping the Knicks would take a look at him, but I don't think they ever seriously did.
I think they had him in for a workout. I just think they feel KP "Is a once in a lifetime talent" and not for nothing a 7 footer who plays like a a really good SF is a once in a lifetime thing.
WaltLongmire wrote:mreinman wrote:BRIGGS wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Kaminsky solid again. His defense stil is a question mark but the pluses are solid.
Nice d by Frank there
watched most of the game. His defense is atrocious and I don't think that he can ever be a passable defender.
As a former teacher I might accept this as an attempt at a topic sentence, but you might want to include some specific examples to support your main idea...I was not able to see the game, so all I can do is look at the stat line which, among other things, shows a =/- of +7, 8 rebounds and 2 blks.
Can you actually describe why his D is atrocious and why, in your opinion, he will never be a passable defender?
Briggs was responding to specific things as he watched the game, you made a somewhat broad statement- it would be nice to follow with some examples.
Just a thought.
you should be able to find the game online.
mreinman wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:mreinman wrote:BRIGGS wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Kaminsky solid again. His defense stil is a question mark but the pluses are solid.
Nice d by Frank there
watched most of the game. His defense is atrocious and I don't think that he can ever be a passable defender.
As a former teacher I might accept this as an attempt at a topic sentence, but you might want to include some specific examples to support your main idea...I was not able to see the game, so all I can do is look at the stat line which, among other things, shows a =/- of +7, 8 rebounds and 2 blks.
Can you actually describe why his D is atrocious and why, in your opinion, he will never be a passable defender?
Briggs was responding to specific things as he watched the game, you made a somewhat broad statement- it would be nice to follow with some examples.
Just a thought.
you should be able to find the game online.
Walt was right, you've added nothing to the discussion.
mreinman wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:mreinman wrote:BRIGGS wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Kaminsky solid again. His defense stil is a question mark but the pluses are solid.
Nice d by Frank there
watched most of the game. His defense is atrocious and I don't think that he can ever be a passable defender.
As a former teacher I might accept this as an attempt at a topic sentence, but you might want to include some specific examples to support your main idea...I was not able to see the game, so all I can do is look at the stat line which, among other things, shows a =/- of +7, 8 rebounds and 2 blks.
Can you actually describe why his D is atrocious and why, in your opinion, he will never be a passable defender?
Briggs was responding to specific things as he watched the game, you made a somewhat broad statement- it would be nice to follow with some examples.
Just a thought.
you should be able to find the game online.
Ah heck...not much of an answer...big letdown. If I continue with the teacher analogy- you get an F.
Its kind of like asking a kid to do an essay discussing the Declaration of Independence and being told I should read it.
I'm at a disadvantage since I have not seen any games, yet.
Don't see why you can't be more descriptive.
Examples might include (sure you can come up with more)
Reaction time, lateral movement, poor stance, lack of awareness, missed assignments, poor rotations, lack of concentration, no defense in the post, constantly gave up the baseline, does not challenge on a jumper, can't defend on the pick and roll, was being blown by on the perimeter...
WaltLongmire wrote:Can you actually describe why his D is atrocious and why, in your opinion, he will never be a passable defender?
It's a small sample size obviously, but he's overestimating his ability to recover as a help defender. He's not 100 percent locked in during transition. He's struggling when other bigs are laying weight on him. He's taking poor angles to the rim.
Some of this stuff is simply going to improve with some experience, but defensively he's slow to read the floor, and is reacting instead of being proactive. He's going to have to learn when the refs will let a game go and when they tighten up the reins some. He'll also have to learn how to wear down his opponent with free contact in close quarters. His timing is off and as he struggles, looks like his usually excellent footwork starts to suffer. I think he'll profile out as having a lot of foul trouble until he counter adjusts.
What's the saying for NFL offensive linemen? They hold on every play but the trick is to learn when to hold when no one is looking.
Effort is not a problem. Strong footwork is the foundation of everything and he has strong footwork in general. His balance is good. He seems to understand how to use his leverage, but not quite when to use it.
He'll never be a plus defender. Despite his size, he'll never play consistently above the rim. He's got length but not the raw athleticism to keep up at full NBA speed.
The problem long term is he's a rookie now and he really isn't in a position to lose a step, when he does lose a step, to injury or attrition, he's going to have some matchup problems. I'd say long term defensive concern is a legitimate issue.
He really needs the right fit and support structure, not sure Jordan can give it to him.
WaltLongmire wrote:mreinman wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:mreinman wrote:BRIGGS wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Kaminsky solid again. His defense stil is a question mark but the pluses are solid.
Nice d by Frank there
watched most of the game. His defense is atrocious and I don't think that he can ever be a passable defender.
As a former teacher I might accept this as an attempt at a topic sentence, but you might want to include some specific examples to support your main idea...I was not able to see the game, so all I can do is look at the stat line which, among other things, shows a =/- of +7, 8 rebounds and 2 blks.
Can you actually describe why his D is atrocious and why, in your opinion, he will never be a passable defender?
Briggs was responding to specific things as he watched the game, you made a somewhat broad statement- it would be nice to follow with some examples.
Just a thought.
you should be able to find the game online.
Ah heck...not much of an answer...big letdown. If I continue with the teacher analogy- you get an F.
Its kind of like asking a kid to do an essay discussing the Declaration of Independence and being told I should read it.
I'm at a disadvantage since I have not seen any games, yet.
Don't see why you can't be more descriptive.
Examples might include (sure you can come up with more)
Reaction time, lateral movement, poor stance, lack of awareness, missed assignments, poor rotations, lack of concentration, no defense in the post, constantly gave up the baseline, does not challenge on a jumper, can't defend on the pick and roll, was being blown by on the perimeter...
I actually watched both games and here is the correct answer. Frank has played very well. Despite a slow start to game 1 he has been efficient and easily one of the top 3-5 players in the summer league in Orlando. Yesterday he helped put Charlotte in a position to win the game with 3 excellent defensive sequences in a row which lead to 3 tons and transition baskets. Throughout both games Franks d would easily be described as reasonable just like Patrick Ewing said during the telecast. If And his plus overall play which included averaging over 17 points and 10 rebounds with the highest efg in so must have Charlotte fans very excited. His play has been very good and if Pj Hairtson didn't take it upon himself to Chuck shots he would've been back to back 20-10games. I've seen justice Winslow both games and while he has been good on the dribble drive he had trouble when asked to guard Ryan Boatright yesterday and wholesome suspected he is shooting 18% from 3 and living on some driving ability that might not be there for him in the nba. The 2super standouts have been Johnson and turner
