wargames wrote:If he gave up 10 mil and they don't win the chip he'll be the biggest idiot in the league.
And the reality is he is far more likely NOT to win a championship than win it. He could have gone ring chasing in a year or two, but it is his decision at the end of the day.
I don't see what the allure is in going to a championship team just to say you sat on their bench. The guy really turned down all that money for Juwan Howard bragging rights.
Knixkik wrote:dk7th wrote:Knixkik wrote:dk7th wrote:Knixkik wrote:He just paid 12 million for a chance at a ring. That is unreal.
i promise you he is not thinking of it that way.
Of course not, but that is the reality.
Its your reality but he is free to define his own reality He is clearly a free man and made a choice based on value not cost or price. And he has great exemplars of sacrifice in San Antonio. He is a free man and is acting as such.
12 mil is 12 mil dude lol.
not when you have earned 87.8 million.
He could sign for the vet min next yr with any contender. I won't praise him or diss him, it is what it is. Most likely Spurs resign him to like a 2 yr 4-5mil offer giving him some of that money back in the long run.
smackeddog wrote:wargames wrote:If he gave up 10 mil and they don't win the chip he'll be the biggest idiot in the league.
And the reality is he is far more likely NOT to win a championship than win it. He could have gone ring chasing in a year or two, but it is his decision at the end of the day.
Maybe he doesn't have a black and white view of success even if some message board posters here do.
Bonn1997 wrote:smackeddog wrote:wargames wrote:If he gave up 10 mil and they don't win the chip he'll be the biggest idiot in the league.
And the reality is he is far more likely NOT to win a championship than win it. He could have gone ring chasing in a year or two, but it is his decision at the end of the day.
Maybe he doesn't have a black and white view of success even if some message board posters here do.
he gave up essentially $11 million..there's no justifying that.. he could have donate that to charity...he's a retard, probably one of the worse business decisions i have ever seen
dk7th wrote:Knixkik wrote:dk7th wrote:Knixkik wrote:dk7th wrote:Knixkik wrote:He just paid 12 million for a chance at a ring. That is unreal.
i promise you he is not thinking of it that way.
Of course not, but that is the reality.
Its your reality but he is free to define his own reality He is clearly a free man and made a choice based on value not cost or price. And he has great exemplars of sacrifice in San Antonio. He is a free man and is acting as such.
12 mil is 12 mil dude lol.
not when you have earned 87.8 million.
There is no arguing he forfeited 12 mil. If he wins a title, good for him, it was worth it. If he doesn't...wow.
knicks1248 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:smackeddog wrote:wargames wrote:If he gave up 10 mil and they don't win the chip he'll be the biggest idiot in the league.
And the reality is he is far more likely NOT to win a championship than win it. He could have gone ring chasing in a year or two, but it is his decision at the end of the day.
Maybe he doesn't have a black and white view of success even if some message board posters here do.
he gave up essentially $11 million..there's no justifying that.. he could have donate that to charity...he's a retard, probably one of the worse business decisions i have ever seen
That is an interesting point - Giving the money to a charity. But Indiana wouldn't have released him, except later in the year.
I think it all comes down to Monopoly money after you are filthy rich like that. After 80 million, if you job is about winning, why not walk away from 10 to win? I'm not saying that is what I would do as your point is great. Winning is about "me" though. Donating is usually a tax thing (unfortunately).
I'm sure some of you have walked away from a relatively big payday for happiness. I walked away from a lot of money to just take a chance on life and I was rewarded (not monetarily.) Nature loves those who take a chance on life...
is west from texas... i can see him signing some commercial deals a la spurs on the side to supplement the vet min income.
knicks1248 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:smackeddog wrote:wargames wrote:If he gave up 10 mil and they don't win the chip he'll be the biggest idiot in the league.
And the reality is he is far more likely NOT to win a championship than win it. He could have gone ring chasing in a year or two, but it is his decision at the end of the day.
Maybe he doesn't have a black and white view of success even if some message board posters here do.
he gave up essentially $11 million..there's no justifying that.. he could have donate that to charity...he's a retard, probably one of the worse business decisions i have ever seen
Very interesting way of looking at it. I would have to agree. Also, seems like he could play out this contract (or get traded to a contender) and do the same thing next summer, sign for the vet minimum. Very odd, but there is a first time for everything i guess.
Also, you've got to believe some of the players are giving him some cash to offset this. Maybe he's close friends with Duncan and Parker and they each gave him 2 mil or something. I'm sure it happens, plenty of under the table deals like this.
Knixkik wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:smackeddog wrote:wargames wrote:If he gave up 10 mil and they don't win the chip he'll be the biggest idiot in the league.
And the reality is he is far more likely NOT to win a championship than win it. He could have gone ring chasing in a year or two, but it is his decision at the end of the day.
Maybe he doesn't have a black and white view of success even if some message board posters here do.
he gave up essentially $11 million..there's no justifying that.. he could have donate that to charity...he's a retard, probably one of the worse business decisions i have ever seen
Very interesting way of looking at it. I would have to agree. Also, seems like he could play out this contract (or get traded to a contender) and do the same thing next summer, sign for the vet minimum. Very odd, but there is a first time for everything i guess.Also, you've got to believe some of the players are giving him some cash to offset this. Maybe he's close friends with Duncan and Parker and they each gave him 2 mil or something. I'm sure it happens, plenty of under the table deals like this.
You can't just give 2 million to someone without the authorities noticing. The laws are tough on moving money. (Unless you are a corrupt bank like HSBC or Wachovia, then you get fined less than your profit. lol)
This might be a time for Bitcoin. 
knicks1248 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:smackeddog wrote:wargames wrote:If he gave up 10 mil and they don't win the chip he'll be the biggest idiot in the league.
And the reality is he is far more likely NOT to win a championship than win it. He could have gone ring chasing in a year or two, but it is his decision at the end of the day.
Maybe he doesn't have a black and white view of success even if some message board posters here do.
he gave up essentially $11 million..there's no justifying that.. he could have donate that to charity...he's a retard, probably one of the worse business decisions i have ever seen
my guess is that your yearly income is in the five-figure range. his has been in the seven- to eight-figure range.
instead of insulting what you clearly don't comprehend, try learning about perspective, scale and relativity, proportion, orders of magnitude, powers of ten, and last but not least: "price versus value"
Bonn1997 wrote:dk7th wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:smackeddog wrote:wargames wrote:If he gave up 10 mil and they don't win the chip he'll be the biggest idiot in the league.
And the reality is he is far more likely NOT to win a championship than win it. He could have gone ring chasing in a year or two, but it is his decision at the end of the day.
Maybe he doesn't have a black and white view of success even if some message board posters here do.
he gave up essentially $11 million..there's no justifying that.. he could have donate that to charity...he's a retard, probably one of the worse business decisions i have ever seen
my guess is that your yearly income is in the five-figure range. his has been in the seven- to eight-figure range.
instead of insulting what you clearly don't comprehend, try learning about perspective, scale and relativity, proportion, orders of magnitude, powers of ten, and last but not least: "price versus value"
+1
For all we know West has done a good job managing his money over the years, and maybe he lives a modest life.
Duncan and James have taken less money than they could have demanded during their careers for various reasons. Duncan, perhaps in his final year, took less so SA could make certain acquisitions.
D. Jordan, if he does go to Dallas, potentially gave up a lot of $$ based on contract length. What if he gets injured if he plays for Dallas, and never fully recovers. He might have wanted that extra year at $20M.
A few players also turned away from offers by the Kings to take less with another team.
There seems to be a point where the extra money does not make a difference in your life or your future life, unless you are consumed with a need to have more money than this or that player.
Cartman718 wrote:GetThePipe wrote:I don't see what the allure is in going to a championship team just to say you sat on their bench. The guy really turned down all that money for Juwan Howard bragging rights.
or adam morrison
Doubt if West is going to SA to sit at the end of the bench. He also understands that this might just be Duncan's and Manu's final year together.
He is not going to be a Juwan Howard or Adam Morrison...the comparisons make little sense, IMO.
Duncan gave up $10M to help his team.
Great on the court...great off the court.
Don't think the Spurs had to worry about him backing out of their agreement at the last moment for more money elsewhere.
[size=2]Sources: Tim Duncan signs two-year, $10 million-plus deal to return to SpursTim Duncan is staying put in San Antonio for two more years. (AP)
Tim Duncan has signed a two-year, $10 milllion-plus deal to return to the San Antonio Spurs, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
Duncan, a 15-time All-Star and five-time champion, accepted a paycut of almost $5 million a year to facilitate the signings of LaMarcus Aldridge and Danny Green.
Duncan will be returning for his 20th season with the Spurs, where he is still one of the NBA's elite power forwards at 39 years old. He averaged 13.9 points and 9.1 rebounds in 77 games last season.
Duncan was the No. 1 overall selection by the Spurs in the 1997 NBA draft. He earned league MVP honors in 2002 and 2003, and was the NBA Finals MVP in 1999, 2003 and 2005.
For his career, the 6-11 frontcourt star has averaged 19.5 points on 50.6 percent shooting, 11 rebounds, 3.1 assists and 2.2 blocks.[/size=2]
