Knicks · ESPN Knicks 25 wins (page 1)

knicks1248 @ 8/17/2015 9:46 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/134313...


Is it the roster or the coach, I expect 39 wins

dk7th @ 8/17/2015 9:55 PM
knicks1248 wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/134313...


Is it the roster or the coach, I expect 39 wins

25 wins is nonsense. can't wait to hear the reasoning or justification.

NYKBocker @ 8/17/2015 10:04 PM
They will be eating some crow.
knicks1248 @ 8/17/2015 10:15 PM
How convenient of them to remove last years predictions
holfresh @ 8/17/2015 10:22 PM
knicks1248 wrote:How convenient of them to remove last years predictions

Last year they predicted 38-44 games...SHOENE predicted 32 wins..Year before that 37 wins..

StarksEwing1 @ 8/17/2015 10:45 PM
Thats too low. 35—39 wins would be more fair
Bonn1997 @ 8/18/2015 7:49 AM
My suspicion was that the advanced stats would generally call this a 30ish win team. So this 25 prediction isn't that far off - it's just the low end of the range. At least we have our draft pick.
dk7th @ 8/18/2015 8:33 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:My suspicion was that the advanced stats would generally call this a 30ish win team. So this 25 prediction isn't that far off - it's just the low end of the range. At least we have our draft pick.

by free agency win shares alone the knicks should be at 27 wins and that's not including melo's win shares. bad and sulking melo gets you to 29, typical melo gets you 32-34 wins... and i am not even factoring in grant and kp6.

a buying in melo + grant and kp6 playing well gets you another 4-6 wins i should think.

Bonn1997 @ 8/18/2015 8:44 AM
dk7th wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:My suspicion was that the advanced stats would generally call this a 30ish win team. So this 25 prediction isn't that far off - it's just the low end of the range. At least we have our draft pick.

by free agency win shares alone the knicks should be at 27 wins and that's not including melo's win shares. bad and sulking melo gets you to 29, typical melo gets you 32-34 wins... and i am not even factoring in grant and kp6.

a buying in melo + grant and kp6 playing well gets you another 4-6 wins i should think.


How did you arrive at 27?
holfresh @ 8/18/2015 8:52 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:My suspicion was that the advanced stats would generally call this a 30ish win team. So this 25 prediction isn't that far off - it's just the low end of the range. At least we have our draft pick.

by free agency win shares alone the knicks should be at 27 wins and that's not including melo's win shares. bad and sulking melo gets you to 29, typical melo gets you 32-34 wins... and i am not even factoring in grant and kp6.

a buying in melo + grant and kp6 playing well gets you another 4-6 wins i should think.


How did you arrive at 27?

dk7th @ 8/18/2015 9:16 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:My suspicion was that the advanced stats would generally call this a 30ish win team. So this 25 prediction isn't that far off - it's just the low end of the range. At least we have our draft pick.

by free agency win shares alone the knicks should be at 27 wins and that's not including melo's win shares. bad and sulking melo gets you to 29, typical melo gets you 32-34 wins... and i am not even factoring in grant and kp6.

a buying in melo + grant and kp6 playing well gets you another 4-6 wins i should think.


How did you arrive at 27?

i looked up the free agents we acquired and added their win shares, and then subtracted the win shares of the players we lost, and it netted a positive. i can't find the post where i initially did the research, but i was impressed with lopez and o'quinn on their win shares.

marijuana was not involved.

knicks1248 @ 8/18/2015 9:29 AM
dk7th wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:My suspicion was that the advanced stats would generally call this a 30ish win team. So this 25 prediction isn't that far off - it's just the low end of the range. At least we have our draft pick.

by free agency win shares alone the knicks should be at 27 wins and that's not including melo's win shares. bad and sulking melo gets you to 29, typical melo gets you 32-34 wins... and i am not even factoring in grant and kp6.

a buying in melo + grant and kp6 playing well gets you another 4-6 wins i should think.


How did you arrive at 27?

i looked up the free agents we acquired and added their win shares, and then subtracted the win shares of the players we lost, and it netted a positive. i can't find the post where i initially did the research, but i was impressed with lopez and o'quinn on their win shares.

marijuana was not involved.

so coaching and chemistry don't play a factor?

ChuckBuck @ 8/18/2015 9:40 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:My suspicion was that the advanced stats would generally call this a 30ish win team. So this 25 prediction isn't that far off - it's just the low end of the range. At least we have our draft pick.

What draft pick? Lost it in the Bargnani trade.

http://www.prosportstransactions.com/bas...

franco12 @ 8/18/2015 9:56 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:My suspicion was that the advanced stats would generally call this a 30ish win team. So this 25 prediction isn't that far off - it's just the low end of the range. At least we have our draft pick.

What draft pick? Lost it in the Bargnani trade.

http://www.prosportstransactions.com/bas...

you missed the [sarcasm][/sarcasm]

franco12 @ 8/18/2015 9:58 AM
the way I look at this squad is its a 30 win team that can be +/- 10 games.

If players stay healthy, if they meld, if the coach does well - it could be a 40 win team.

If players aren't healthy, don't meld and the coach struggles- it could very well be a 20 win team.

I don't foresee a (likely) scenario that puts us out of either range.

Nalod @ 8/18/2015 10:33 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:My suspicion was that the advanced stats would generally call this a 30ish win team. So this 25 prediction isn't that far off - it's just the low end of the range. At least we have our draft pick.

by free agency win shares alone the knicks should be at 27 wins and that's not including melo's win shares. bad and sulking melo gets you to 29, typical melo gets you 32-34 wins... and i am not even factoring in grant and kp6.

a buying in melo + grant and kp6 playing well gets you another 4-6 wins i should think.


How did you arrive at 27?

i looked up the free agents we acquired and added their win shares, and then subtracted the win shares of the players we lost, and it netted a positive. i can't find the post where i initially did the research, but i was impressed with lopez and o'quinn on their win shares.

marijuana was not involved.

so coaching and chemistry don't play a factor?

Only if your connecting the dots. You don't like fish. Phil likes Fish. That's all you need to know until the season starts.
Nothing changes until Phils Facts throws him under the bus. Until then, there are no games until end of Oct.

Nalod @ 8/18/2015 10:35 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:My suspicion was that the advanced stats would generally call this a 30ish win team. So this 25 prediction isn't that far off - it's just the low end of the range. At least we have our draft pick.

What draft pick? Lost it in the Bargnani trade.

http://www.prosportstransactions.com/bas...

Don't yah just hate it, or just have to laugh you get all excited about a "gotcha" moment, maybe even tried to find a cute youtube video to drive home the point, then someone reminds you this is just entertainment, not law school?

VCoug @ 8/18/2015 10:47 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:My suspicion was that the advanced stats would generally call this a 30ish win team. So this 25 prediction isn't that far off - it's just the low end of the range. At least we have our draft pick.

ChuckBuck @ 8/18/2015 10:56 AM
Nalod wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:My suspicion was that the advanced stats would generally call this a 30ish win team. So this 25 prediction isn't that far off - it's just the low end of the range. At least we have our draft pick.

What draft pick? Lost it in the Bargnani trade.

http://www.prosportstransactions.com/bas...

Don't yah just hate it, or just have to laugh you get all excited about a "gotcha" moment, maybe even tried to find a cute youtube video to drive home the point, then someone reminds you this is just entertainment, not law school?

Haha?

Bonn1997 @ 8/18/2015 10:58 AM
franco12 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:My suspicion was that the advanced stats would generally call this a 30ish win team. So this 25 prediction isn't that far off - it's just the low end of the range. At least we have our draft pick.

What draft pick? Lost it in the Bargnani trade.

http://www.prosportstransactions.com/bas...

you missed the [sarcasm][/sarcasm]

Yeah, sarcasm

EnySpree @ 8/18/2015 11:31 AM
25 is kinda low. This team has the potential to make the playoffs. If they don't gel I could see 35 wins though....I'm hoping for 43-39
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