Cartman718 wrote:Kemet wrote:smackeddog wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:callmened wrote:whos gonna be better in 5 yrs? Myles vs KAT vs porzingus...i really DONT know
You can add Denver's draft and stash big, Jokic in that group too. I wonder what Stein, Okafor, and Portis will do too.
Ridiculous draft- I know people say we got lucky with Porzingis, but really I think it would have been very difficult to not get lucky with all the talent that was available.
So True
um no... mudiay and russell...no thanks
Rookie PG dont show NBA level of B.ball until they been in the league 3 years ..
In the last 20 years the exceptional rookie PG u can count on one hand .. Lillard, Westbrook, Rose, and CP3.
Kemet wrote:Cartman718 wrote:Kemet wrote:smackeddog wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:callmened wrote:whos gonna be better in 5 yrs? Myles vs KAT vs porzingus...i really DONT know
You can add Denver's draft and stash big, Jokic in that group too. I wonder what Stein, Okafor, and Portis will do too.
Ridiculous draft- I know people say we got lucky with Porzingis, but really I think it would have been very difficult to not get lucky with all the talent that was available.
So True
um no... mudiay and russell...no thanks
Rookie PG dont show NBA level of B.ball until they been in the league 3 years ..
In the last 20 years the exceptional rookie PG u can count on one hand .. Lillard, Westbrook, Rose, and CP3.
so in the last 20 years...you said? are you sure? do you really want me to start naming rookie PGs who endured their hot start? nahhh i'll start with one clue...you forgot the MVP of the league. and I see you mentioned only the "recent" PGs. :)
Wow. That's kinda surprising.
not at all. i was surprised detroit wanted him knowing his back issues
Acy looks great. Rondo sets guys up. Fun to watch.
Wow. Just changed to the hawks game and Hardaway threw up an air ball. Hawks are going to win but.
Jalen just called Lowry a modern day Tim Hardaway.
Lowry was 15/20 from the field vs the Cavs, and 11/15 from the charity stripe.
This was against one of the better defensive teams in the league with two pretty good defensive guards, Shumpert and Delevadova, on the team. Not a single blocked shot by the Cavs (Or the Raptors, for that matter.)
How many "our guards suck" threads would have popped up around here if he had done this to the Knicks?
The game has changed a lot since I first started watching it.
WaltLongmire wrote:Lowry was 15/20 from the field vs the Cavs, and 11/15 from the charity stripe.This was against one of the better defensive teams in the league with two pretty good defensive guards, Shumpert and Delevadova, on the team. Not a single blocked shot by the Cavs (Or the Raptors, for that matter.)
How many "our guards suck" threads would have popped up around here if he had done this to the Knicks?
Tons. But plenty popped up when Shump was in NY.
CrushAlot wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:Lowry was 15/20 from the field vs the Cavs, and 11/15 from the charity stripe.This was against one of the better defensive teams in the league with two pretty good defensive guards, Shumpert and Delevadova, on the team. Not a single blocked shot by the Cavs (Or the Raptors, for that matter.)
How many "our guards suck" threads would have popped up around here if he had done this to the Knicks?
Tons. But plenty popped up when Shump was in NY.
My real issue has to do with the rules and how the game is being played...not sure that
anyone can stop a decent offensive minded guard with a good first step.
CrushAlot wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:CrushAlot wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:Lowry was 15/20 from the field vs the Cavs, and 11/15 from the charity stripe.This was against one of the better defensive teams in the league with two pretty good defensive guards, Shumpert and Delevadova, on the team. Not a single blocked shot by the Cavs (Or the Raptors, for that matter.)
How many "our guards suck" threads would have popped up around here if he had done this to the Knicks?
Tons. But plenty popped up when Shump was in NY.
My real issue has to do with the rules and how the game is being played...not sure that anyone can stop a decent offensive minded guard with a good first step.
During the playoffs finals last year (Probably getting a few hits on holfresh, I think, who was a Shumpert fan.) Shumpert got a defensive rebound with James nearby, and I think he wanted to bring the ball up the court, but James signaled to him to give him the ball, and I commented on the implications, and how it really showed a lack of faith in Shumpert, a guy who we looked at as a potential PG at one point.
With Irving out, the only player besides himself who James might have wanted bringing the ball up the court was Delevadova, I think. Quite a condemnation of Shumpert's ability.
Hate to say it, but the way the rules are now, a player who can play D, but is unreliable in other areas, is not worth the kind of contract the Cavs gave Shumpert.
I think that good perimeter defenders (If that is all they can do) have lost some of their value because it is so difficult to stay in front of a quick guard given the high picks and hand-check rules. They have value, of course, but they are marginalized a bit because of how the game is now played.
CrushAlot wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:CrushAlot wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:Lowry was 15/20 from the field vs the Cavs, and 11/15 from the charity stripe.This was against one of the better defensive teams in the league with two pretty good defensive guards, Shumpert and Delevadova, on the team. Not a single blocked shot by the Cavs (Or the Raptors, for that matter.)
How many "our guards suck" threads would have popped up around here if he had done this to the Knicks?
Tons. But plenty popped up when Shump was in NY.
My real issue has to do with the rules and how the game is being played...not sure that anyone can stop a decent offensive minded guard with a good first step.
Joe Johnson seems destined to go to the Heat, but it sounds like the Cavs really wanted him, too...
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/148511...
...more proof that Shumpert, with his injuries and inconsistency, is not someone James can depend on anymore.
WaltLongmire wrote:CrushAlot wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:CrushAlot wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:Lowry was 15/20 from the field vs the Cavs, and 11/15 from the charity stripe.This was against one of the better defensive teams in the league with two pretty good defensive guards, Shumpert and Delevadova, on the team. Not a single blocked shot by the Cavs (Or the Raptors, for that matter.)
How many "our guards suck" threads would have popped up around here if he had done this to the Knicks?
Tons. But plenty popped up when Shump was in NY.
My real issue has to do with the rules and how the game is being played...not sure that anyone can stop a decent offensive minded guard with a good first step.
Joe Johnson seems destined to go to the Heat, but it sounds like the Cavs really wanted him, too...
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/148511...
...more proof that Shumpert, with his injuries and inconsistency, is not someone James can depend on anymore.
Also, you have to think James endorsement helped Shump get his big contract. I can't imagine that he is moved very easily with the money he is owed.
CrushAlot wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:CrushAlot wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:CrushAlot wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:Lowry was 15/20 from the field vs the Cavs, and 11/15 from the charity stripe.This was against one of the better defensive teams in the league with two pretty good defensive guards, Shumpert and Delevadova, on the team. Not a single blocked shot by the Cavs (Or the Raptors, for that matter.)
How many "our guards suck" threads would have popped up around here if he had done this to the Knicks?
Tons. But plenty popped up when Shump was in NY.
My real issue has to do with the rules and how the game is being played...not sure that anyone can stop a decent offensive minded guard with a good first step.
Joe Johnson seems destined to go to the Heat, but it sounds like the Cavs really wanted him, too...
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/148511...
...more proof that Shumpert, with his injuries and inconsistency, is not someone James can depend on anymore.
Also, you have to think James endorsement helped Shump get his big contract. I can't imagine that he is moved very easily with the money he is owed.
I'm sure Bron has also learned it's foolish to depend on JR in crunch time.
I think JJ would make the Cavs a very strong contender to knockout the Warriors. Sort of shocked if he chooses Miami over the Cavs.
With under 7 minutes in the game Houston has scored 35 pts against the Spurs.
GSW / OKC is pretty epic. I really hope they meet in the playoffs.
