Knicks · Article:why jimmer fredette has been such a big bust in the nba (page 2)

Looks like he spent more time on his conditioning, trying to improve his foot speed. And lost his upper body strength, which was used for his long range shot. As a result, his weight lost hasn't improved his lateral quickness. But his shooting (which was his bread and butter) was lost.

Classic situation of why you should never stop working on your strengths.

I heard a story about a coach asking a pitcher what his best pitches were. The pitcher named like 2 or 3 pitches. The coach said no, pick 1 of your best pitches. Then the coach said, "now go out there and practice on your best pitch for the next few months" That pitcher later won some award! True story!

Always try to improve what you are good at, as a top priority. Then whatever you have left, that's when you work on your weaknesses. This is a life learning lesson, free of charge!

Jimmer just needs somebody to explain that to him, so he can get his swagger back. Stop focusing on your weakness, and continue to improve your strengths.

Knixkik wrote:I grew up near Jimmer, played pick-up against him, coached him at basketball camp (i'm a few years older than him) and i can say he has always overachieved. Works hard, talent was never really there. In high school he didn't look like he was going to be a D1 player, but he just got better and better, and was always put in situations to succeed. He always overachieved, and it was going to catch up to him one way or another. Making it to the NBA is beyond what you can ever expect from a player like him.

wow

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I grew up near Jimmer, played pick-up against him, coached him at basketball camp (i'm a few years older than him) and i can say he has always overachieved. Works hard, talent was never really there. In high school he didn't look like he was going to be a D1 player, but he just got better and better, and was always put in situations to succeed. He always overachieved, and it was going to catch up to him one way or another. Making it to the NBA is beyond what you can ever expect from a player like him.

wow

missed this earlier, very cool.

EDIT, where is this post? I don't even see it in the thread?

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I grew up near Jimmer, played pick-up against him, coached him at basketball camp (i'm a few years older than him) and i can say he has always overachieved. Works hard, talent was never really there. In high school he didn't look like he was going to be a D1 player, but he just got better and better, and was always put in situations to succeed. He always overachieved, and it was going to catch up to him one way or another. Making it to the NBA is beyond what you can ever expect from a player like him.

wow

missed this earlier, very cool.

EDIT, where is this post? I don't even see it in the thread?

looks like he deleted it

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I grew up near Jimmer, played pick-up against him, coached him at basketball camp (i'm a few years older than him) and i can say he has always overachieved. Works hard, talent was never really there. In high school he didn't look like he was going to be a D1 player, but he just got better and better, and was always put in situations to succeed. He always overachieved, and it was going to catch up to him one way or another. Making it to the NBA is beyond what you can ever expect from a player like him.

wow

missed this earlier, very cool.

EDIT, where is this post? I don't even see it in the thread?

looks like he deleted it

Jimmer hit squad got hold of it!!! Don't mess with the "Jimmah"

this guy is concern with making the 15 man roster at some point, when he should be concern about changing his game, dude sucks bad

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I grew up near Jimmer, played pick-up against him, coached him at basketball camp (i'm a few years older than him) and i can say he has always overachieved. Works hard, talent was never really there. In high school he didn't look like he was going to be a D1 player, but he just got better and better, and was always put in situations to succeed. He always overachieved, and it was going to catch up to him one way or another. Making it to the NBA is beyond what you can ever expect from a player like him.

wow

missed this earlier, very cool.

EDIT, where is this post? I don't even see it in the thread?

looks like he deleted it

Sorry, i was having issues with the site, thought i posted it twice by accident and then deleted it once. Apparently not the case.

Knixkik wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I grew up near Jimmer, played pick-up against him, coached him at basketball camp (i'm a few years older than him) and i can say he has always overachieved. Works hard, talent was never really there. In high school he didn't look like he was going to be a D1 player, but he just got better and better, and was always put in situations to succeed. He always overachieved, and it was going to catch up to him one way or another. Making it to the NBA is beyond what you can ever expect from a player like him.

wow

missed this earlier, very cool.

EDIT, where is this post? I don't even see it in the thread?

looks like he deleted it

Sorry, i was having issues with the site, thought i posted it twice by accident and then deleted it once. Apparently not the case.

And just to reiterate, he never had attitude problems, in fact was humble. He is simply an overachiever who always had a system that worked for him, the right coaches, the right work ethic, plenty of luck (but deserving with his work ethic) and it was a perfect storm for him to go from small town player with no true position to NBA first round pick.

I don't think its necessarily fair to call him a bust. Bust implies underachiever, he is the opposite. Sacramento Kings draft team is a bust for not doing their homework and being more concerned with drafting a potential fan favorite than a player with potential to meet the expectations of a lottery pick. Probably wasn't going to happen. They should know better and this is why they are one of the most disastrous NBA franchises.

Knixkik wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I grew up near Jimmer, played pick-up against him, coached him at basketball camp (i'm a few years older than him) and i can say he has always overachieved. Works hard, talent was never really there. In high school he didn't look like he was going to be a D1 player, but he just got better and better, and was always put in situations to succeed. He always overachieved, and it was going to catch up to him one way or another. Making it to the NBA is beyond what you can ever expect from a player like him.

wow

missed this earlier, very cool.

EDIT, where is this post? I don't even see it in the thread?

looks like he deleted it

Sorry, i was having issues with the site, thought i posted it twice by accident and then deleted it once. Apparently not the case.

hey ... np at all. Thought it was cool then martin pointed out that it went poof

Knixkik wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I grew up near Jimmer, played pick-up against him, coached him at basketball camp (i'm a few years older than him) and i can say he has always overachieved. Works hard, talent was never really there. In high school he didn't look like he was going to be a D1 player, but he just got better and better, and was always put in situations to succeed. He always overachieved, and it was going to catch up to him one way or another. Making it to the NBA is beyond what you can ever expect from a player like him.

wow

missed this earlier, very cool.

EDIT, where is this post? I don't even see it in the thread?

looks like he deleted it

Sorry, i was having issues with the site, thought i posted it twice by accident and then deleted it once. Apparently not the case.

And just to reiterate, he never had attitude problems, in fact was humble. He is simply an overachiever who always had a system that worked for him, the right coaches, the right work ethic, plenty of luck (but deserving with his work ethic) and it was a perfect storm for him to go from small town player with no true position to NBA first round pick.

I don't think its necessarily fair to call him a bust. Bust implies underachiever, he is the opposite. Sacramento Kings draft team is a bust for not doing their homework and being more concerned with drafting a potential fan favorite than a player with potential to meet the expectations of a lottery pick. Probably wasn't going to happen. They should know better and this is why they are one of the most disastrous NBA franchises.

Good post....

Tell me if I'm wrong but he seems like a volume shooter who needs several attempts or needs to be the focal point in order to impact the game. I think he needs to work on his shooting to become an efficient scorer with limited attempts.

blkexec wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I grew up near Jimmer, played pick-up against him, coached him at basketball camp (i'm a few years older than him) and i can say he has always overachieved. Works hard, talent was never really there. In high school he didn't look like he was going to be a D1 player, but he just got better and better, and was always put in situations to succeed. He always overachieved, and it was going to catch up to him one way or another. Making it to the NBA is beyond what you can ever expect from a player like him.

wow

missed this earlier, very cool.

EDIT, where is this post? I don't even see it in the thread?

looks like he deleted it

Sorry, i was having issues with the site, thought i posted it twice by accident and then deleted it once. Apparently not the case.

And just to reiterate, he never had attitude problems, in fact was humble. He is simply an overachiever who always had a system that worked for him, the right coaches, the right work ethic, plenty of luck (but deserving with his work ethic) and it was a perfect storm for him to go from small town player with no true position to NBA first round pick.

I don't think its necessarily fair to call him a bust. Bust implies underachiever, he is the opposite. Sacramento Kings draft team is a bust for not doing their homework and being more concerned with drafting a potential fan favorite than a player with potential to meet the expectations of a lottery pick. Probably wasn't going to happen. They should know better and this is why they are one of the most disastrous NBA franchises.

Good post....

Tell me if I'm wrong but he seems like a volume shooter who needs several attempts or needs to be the focal point in order to impact the game. I think he needs to work on his shooting to become an efficient scorer with limited attempts.

On one hand, there's absolutely no reason he can't transform himself into a steve kerr type player. He has come this far and he has the tools to do it. On the other hand, even with the premium on shooting these days, can a player like that really make it in today's game? This isn't the 80s and 90s anymore, there are too many younger, athletic players who can shoot the ball 80% as well, and have more potential and so many more tools to be 3 and D type players. Jimmer doesn't have that. Even Reddick is a solid defender. The talent is just so great today that i am not sure guys like Kerr could make it in today's game. But i could be wrong.

Knixkik wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I grew up near Jimmer, played pick-up against him, coached him at basketball camp (i'm a few years older than him) and i can say he has always overachieved. Works hard, talent was never really there. In high school he didn't look like he was going to be a D1 player, but he just got better and better, and was always put in situations to succeed. He always overachieved, and it was going to catch up to him one way or another. Making it to the NBA is beyond what you can ever expect from a player like him.

wow

missed this earlier, very cool.

EDIT, where is this post? I don't even see it in the thread?

looks like he deleted it

Sorry, i was having issues with the site, thought i posted it twice by accident and then deleted it once. Apparently not the case.

And just to reiterate, he never had attitude problems, in fact was humble. He is simply an overachiever who always had a system that worked for him, the right coaches, the right work ethic, plenty of luck (but deserving with his work ethic) and it was a perfect storm for him to go from small town player with no true position to NBA first round pick.

I don't think its necessarily fair to call him a bust. Bust implies underachiever, he is the opposite. Sacramento Kings draft team is a bust for not doing their homework and being more concerned with drafting a potential fan favorite than a player with potential to meet the expectations of a lottery pick. Probably wasn't going to happen. They should know better and this is why they are one of the most disastrous NBA franchises.

Awesome stuff. Thanks for posting it.

Knixkik wrote:
On one hand, there's absolutely no reason he can't transform himself into a steve kerr type player. He has come this far and he has the tools to do it. On the other hand, even with the premium on shooting these days, can a player like that really make it in today's game? This isn't the 80s and 90s anymore, there are too many younger, athletic players who can shoot the ball 80% as well, and have more potential and so many more tools to be 3 and D type players. Jimmer doesn't have that. Even Reddick is a solid defender. The talent is just so great today that i am not sure guys like Kerr could make it in today's game. But i could be wrong.

To be fair, Kerr did an excellent job maximizing his body and became a decent defensive player through effort. Plus, he was a better spot up shooter than Jimmer and Reddick. I think there's still a place for someone like Kerr in today's NBA game.