Knicks · where is derrick williams? (page 3)

Finestrg @ 11/4/2015 7:17 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:To be honest, I don't think Fisher is a big fan of DWILL, during the post game reports after a few of the preseason games when the media was praising his play, fisher brushed it off as a avg display. He was more critical of what he was doing wrong the what he did right.

At the same post game conference, he praise the hell out of KP, who actually had 1/10th of the game dwill had. So i actually think there's a little more to his reduction in minutes then his over all play

I don't take it that way. Every player is treated a bit differently, depending on their weaknesses and expectations and what they have been working on in practice and what the coaches have told them to work on.

Dwill is a vet who needs prodding and needs to be doing the defensive and smart things on the court.

Don't take sound bites to heart too much

I'm not, but I am concern about how they actually want to use him, that's clearly the difference maker, for him and the team. I think it's extremely important to put him in the right role or you won't benefit from his skill set

I agree. Not the type of player to rein in. Watching 'Nothing but Knicks' just now and they played a clip of Fisher addressing the team during preseason. He was talking about the system and how it creates open shots--that guys will be put in a position to shoot the ball and that if open, he wants them to take the shot. That's comforting to know--I hope that esp. applies to D-Will. It's a must. Like you said--in order to utilize this guy's skillset to the fullest, you gotta just wind him up and let him go. That's when we'll see him at his best. Any attempt to rein him in will be detrimental. I want this guy loosey-goosey out there ready to score that ball in a variety of ways. That's his game.

JrZyHuStLa @ 11/4/2015 7:33 PM
Today Derrick Williams is in Cleveland.
Knicks1969 @ 11/4/2015 8:51 PM
Nalod wrote:Maybe dude is not feeling well?
Slight injury?
Broke a rule and sitting a bit?
Or,
Coach is inept?

I venture to say that the coach is inept. As imperfect Fisher is as a coach/human, he demands perfection from SOME of the players; particularly on the defensive end

BRIGGS @ 11/4/2015 9:16 PM
Our offense tends to go south--Williams should play 24+ minutes.
Paris907 @ 11/4/2015 9:22 PM
When the Knicks went stale and didn't score for 4+ minutes, and Melo and Calderon looked gassed and off, Williams would have been the right antidote. Cleveland has stayed in the game by fast break -

Melo has 9 boards! Yet let Williams play.

Allanfan20 @ 11/4/2015 9:56 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
Nalod wrote:Maybe dude is not feeling well?
Slight injury?
Broke a rule and sitting a bit?
Or,
Coach is inept?

I venture to say that the coach is inept. As imperfect Fisher is as a coach/human, he demands perfection from SOME of the players; particularly on the defensive end

So he can foul another 3 point shooter?

knicks1248 @ 11/5/2015 9:22 AM
this guy played 11 minutes in the last 2 games...wtf
GustavBahler @ 11/5/2015 9:27 AM
knicks1248 wrote:this guy played 11 minutes in the last 2 games...wtf

Said before the game that I thought it was about matchups, Fisher wanting to go big, and Hubie said as much during the game.

SwishAndDish13 @ 11/5/2015 9:30 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:this guy played 11 minutes in the last 2 games...wtf

Said before the game that I thought it was about matchups, Fisher wanting to go big, and Hubie said as much during the game.

I actually think they needed him last night. Nobody was shooting the ball well and we couldn't score. The guys on the floor were just praying Melo could get going which is rarely a winning formula for this team. Give him the ball, stand, watch, and pray.

ChuckBuck @ 11/5/2015 9:43 AM
Fisher is phucking up big time with this. Gotta play Seraphim less and DWill more for sure. Maybe go small ball and give Seraphim's minutes to Early instead

G-G, KOQ, DWill, and Early for Milwaukee game speed blitzing again. That worked for 72 points from the bench, WTF is Fisher doing?!?

GustavBahler @ 11/5/2015 9:50 AM
SwishAndDish13 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:this guy played 11 minutes in the last 2 games...wtf

Said before the game that I thought it was about matchups, Fisher wanting to go big, and Hubie said as much during the game.

I actually think they needed him last night. Nobody was shooting the ball well and we couldn't score. The guys on the floor were just praying Melo could get going which is rarely a winning formula for this team. Give him the ball, stand, watch, and pray.

I wouldnt mind seeing more PT for Williams as well. Seraphin had some good moments, but I wonder if Admundson would be a better fit for the second unit. They can run with him on the floor better than Seraphin and his defense is ok.

knicks1248 @ 11/5/2015 10:01 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:Fisher is phucking up big time with this. Gotta play Seraphim less and DWill more for sure. Maybe go small ball and give Seraphim's minutes to Early instead

G-G, KOQ, DWill, and Early for Milwaukee game speed blitzing again. That worked for 72 points from the bench, WTF is Fisher doing?!?

You will not win games scoring in the 80's, and I thought the #1 goal was to run everyone out of the building.

Why can't the coaching staff see this, it seems like Fisher just tries to give everyone minutes so they don't feel left out. But you know whats the worst thing fisher does besides botching the rotation, he never ever lets the opposing team match up to us, were always matching up to them and that's when he goes digging all down to the end of the bench mid way through the 1st qtr for answers.

ChuckBuck @ 11/5/2015 10:06 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Fisher is phucking up big time with this. Gotta play Seraphim less and DWill more for sure. Maybe go small ball and give Seraphim's minutes to Early instead

G-G, KOQ, DWill, and Early for Milwaukee game speed blitzing again. That worked for 72 points from the bench, WTF is Fisher doing?!?

You will not win games scoring in the 80's, and I thought the #1 goal was to run everyone out of the building.

Why can't the coaching staff see this, it seems like Fisher just tries to give everyone minutes so they don't feel left out. But you know whats the worst thing fisher does besides botching the rotation, he never ever lets the opposing team match up to us, were always matching up to them and that's when he goes digging all down to the end of the bench mid way through the 1st qtr for answers.

I hope he'll regain the Milwaukee game touch he had with rotations, since you know...we're facing Milwaukee again!

Nalod @ 11/5/2015 10:09 AM

Is his Little Bow Wow hair in his eyes distort his vision?
Is all that hair tapping his forehead disrupting his instinct?
mreinman @ 11/5/2015 12:32 PM
dudes gotta fix his head first before we can commit 24.845 mins a game to him
knicks1248 @ 11/5/2015 12:54 PM
mreinman wrote:dudes gotta fix his head first before we can commit 24.845 mins a game to him

ooook... were winning when he plays decent min (22)and losing when we he plays garbage min(10)

seems like a no brainer to me

mreinman @ 11/5/2015 1:02 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
mreinman wrote:dudes gotta fix his head first before we can commit 24.845 mins a game to him

ooook... were winning when he plays decent min (22)and losing when we he plays garbage min(10)

seems like a no brainer to me

if this was tennis, I would get your logic

BRIGGS @ 11/5/2015 1:55 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:Fisher is phucking up big time with this. Gotta play Seraphim less and DWill more for sure. Maybe go small ball and give Seraphim's minutes to Early instead

G-G, KOQ, DWill, and Early for Milwaukee game speed blitzing again. That worked for 72 points from the bench, WTF is Fisher doing?!?

I agree with this mentality. I would use my players I feel can speed up the tempo. D Will needs minutes and freedom just like Melo and KP get. 24 minutes this guy will give us 12-15 points some rebounding and energy up and down the court. Look what he did at Milwaukee and pre season. Take away the Milwaukee game and were 1-3 avg under 100 a game. Guys like Jose and Sasha have been given a great chance--now its time to look elsewhere for output size and athletic ability.

fitzfarm @ 11/5/2015 1:57 PM
I don't even fisher himself could even answer a Question About why Lance Thomas is getting more minutes then d will, it's not talent it's not footwork it's not rebounding it's not like Lance is a good passer. He def can't score in transition like d will. I guess you could say Lance is a better defender... But then wtf is Jose doing on the floor over grant if your playing someone because of defense

I've seen enough of Lance,Jose,and Sasha to know all three should be riding the pine... It's pretty insulting to a talent like dwill that a uncoordinated scrub like Lance is getting minutes over him...same goes for grant he must be furious watching Jose not play defense and not set up the team

mreinman @ 11/5/2015 1:59 PM
fitzfarm wrote:I don't even fisher himself could even answer a Question About why Lance Thomas is getting more minutes then d will, it's not talent it's not footwork it's not rebounding it's not like Lance is a good passer. He def can't score in transition like d will. I guess you could say Lance is a better defender... But then wtf is Jose doing on the floor over grant if your playing someone because of defense

I've seen enough of Lance,Jose,and Sasha to know all three should be riding the pine... It's pretty insulting to a talent like dwill that a uncoordinated scrub like Lance is getting minutes over him...same goes for grant he must be furious watching Jose not play defense and not set up the team

I think that Dwil is used to being insulted.

herkyJerky @ 11/5/2015 2:20 PM
fitzfarm wrote:I don't even fisher himself could even answer a Question About why Lance Thomas is getting more minutes then d will, it's not talent it's not footwork it's not rebounding it's not like Lance is a good passer. He def can't score in transition like d will. I guess you could say Lance is a better defender... But then wtf is Jose doing on the floor over grant if your playing someone because of defense

I've seen enough of Lance,Jose,and Sasha to know all three should be riding the pine... It's pretty insulting to a talent like dwill that a uncoordinated scrub like Lance is getting minutes over him...same goes for grant he must be furious watching Jose not play defense and not set up the team

I don't think Lance Thomas getting minutes is the problem here. I think the problem MIGHT be that Fisher's leash is a lot shorter on some guys than it is for others.

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