Knicks · When will Phil finally step in???? (page 2)

herkyJerky wrote:What exactly do you want Phil to do? I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, I'm just asking.

I want Phil to step in and set the rotation; which Fisher has no clue on what to do. Rambis should be elevated as Phil's voice on the bench

Knicks1969 wrote:

herkyJerky wrote:What exactly do you want Phil to do? I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, I'm just asking.

I want Phil to step in and set the rotation; which Fisher has no clue on what to do. Rambis should be elevated as Phil's voice on the bench

May happen if Phil feels Fish is in over his head going from playing straight into coaching. Rambis is would be a great candidate. One of Phil guys with headcoaching experience. This team would benefit from his hands on delivery

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- Carmelo Anthony wasn't in the mood to offer any deep analysis after the New York Knicks' loss Friday night.

"We're just not getting it done," he said.

That's a blanket statement and could apply to a number of things that happened on the court against the Cleveland Cavaliers. But part of the focus on Friday's 90-84 loss to the Cavaliers should lie with lateDerek Fisher put the onus on himself.

"I have to do a better job of putting guys in position to be successful out there," the coach said. "They're doing what we're asking them to do."

Thats just a coach not throwing anyone under the bus.

Your blowing 4th qtr leads particulaly in crunch time, that mostly goes on the coach. We have a different line up to finsih games every night. IDK man, theres nothing routine about our subsitution pattern, a different 6th man every night, he knows that won't work.

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- Carmelo Anthony wasn't in the mood to offer any deep analysis after the New York Knicks' loss Friday night.

"We're just not getting it done," he said.

That's a blanket statement and could apply to a number of things that happened on the court against the Cleveland Cavaliers. But part of the focus on Friday's 90-84 loss to the Cavaliers should lie with lateDerek Fisher put the onus on himself.

"I have to do a better job of putting guys in position to be successful out there," the coach said. "They're doing what we're asking them to do."

Thats just a coach not throwing anyone under the bus.

Your blowing 4th qtr leads particulaly in crunch time, that mostly goes on the coach. We have a different line up to finsih games every night. IDK man, theres nothing routine about our subsitution pattern, a different 6th man every night, he knows that won't work.

G & G are the first guards off the bench, KOQ subs in for Rolo. DWill, Lance, Lou, and the rest fill in as needed. What is so hard to follow?

The Knicks are indeed giving up 4th quarter leads, and it's almost expected right? This is a process, not a finished product.

I don't quite understand what the expectations are of yourself or Knicks1969. Will all games? Play .600 ball?

Most people predicted that the Knicks would top out at winning about half their games, and the Knicks just got done with playing 8 out of 10 playoff teams, and are floating at just under .500.

Please tell me what you have seen in the 6th man substitution pattern, or sub patterns in general.

Starters: RoLo, KP,Carmelo, AA, and reluctantly Jose
Second squad: G&G, Williams,Lance, KO. I Like Lou,but he should only be used when KO or Lance ar not on the court. Ideally he should play when we have a stretch four like KP and when Melo is at the three.

Knicks1969 wrote:Williams should and MUST be utilized as our six man. Our rotation should and MUST be as follow:

Starters: RoLo, KP,Carmelo, AA, and reluctantly Jose
Second squad: G&G, Williams,Lance, KO. I Like Lou,but he should only be used when KO or Lance ar not on the court. Ideally he should play when we have a stretch four like KP and when Melo is at the three.

So we have phil jackson as our GM and a fan from the UK who has no clue what is actually going on there says what the rotations MUST be? how silly is that?

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Knicks1969 wrote:Williams should and MUST be utilized as our six man. Our rotation should and MUST be as follow:

Starters: RoLo, KP,Carmelo, AA, and reluctantly Jose
Second squad: G&G, Williams,Lance, KO. I Like Lou,but he should only be used when KO or Lance ar not on the court. Ideally he should play when we have a stretch four like KP and when Melo is at the three.

So we have phil jackson as our GM and a fan from the UK who has no clue what is actually going on there says what the rotations MUST be? how silly is that?

Exactly. Enough is enough. It is ok to lose one or two games dude to poor coaching, but six games out of 10 is very alarming. At least the coach is now recognizing that he needs to do a better job

http://theknicksblog.com/knicks/hamilton...

Knicks1969 wrote:Another good read about Fishe

http://theknicksblog.com/knicks/hamilton...

moke hamilton is a clueless pos..

dk7th wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:Another good read about Fishe

http://theknicksblog.com/knicks/hamilton...

moke hamilton is a clueless pos..

A good coach can make a world of difference on the sidelines

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Knicks1969 wrote:Williams should and MUST be utilized as our six man. Our rotation should and MUST be as follow:

Starters: RoLo, KP,Carmelo, AA, and reluctantly Jose
Second squad: G&G, Williams,Lance, KO. I Like Lou,but he should only be used when KO or Lance ar not on the court. Ideally he should play when we have a stretch four like KP and when Melo is at the three.

So we have phil jackson as our GM and a fan from the UK who has no clue what is actually going on there says what the rotations MUST be? how silly is that?

Exactly. Enough is enough. It is ok to lose one or two games dude to poor coaching, but six games out of 10 is very alarming. At least the coach is now recognizing that he needs to do a better job

So basically the Knicks SHOULD be 10-0? Also, that quote is a coach not blaming the players. it's not the first time a coach has done it and it means nothing.

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Knicks1969 wrote:Another good read about Fishe

http://theknicksblog.com/knicks/hamilton...

moke hamilton is a clueless pos..

I disagree. Thought it was a good read and I follow Moke. What is your issue with him?

fisher is trying to get the team on the floor to play as a unit. that is the goal. if the team doesn't work as a unit, degenerating into isolation, desperation basketball, how on earth is that on fisher? you can make a case against fisher for *who* is out there, but not for what happens out there. that's on the players and how well they can execute the offense under greater defensive pressure. also, i don't like the lack of patience that so many knicks fans are exhibiting. whtever happened to giving a young, new team 25 games to figure things out?

i have liked derek fisher as a coach here from day 1. i like how he handles the press, i like how he seems to be getting through to anthony-- who is doing much better if not great the first 40 minutes of games-- and i think he is going to evolve into an excellent coach. articles and threads about his ineptitude are unfair.

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:Another good read about Fishe

http://theknicksblog.com/knicks/hamilton...

moke hamilton is a clueless pos..

I disagree. Thought it was a good read and I follow Moke. What is your issue with him?

fisher is trying to get the team on the floor to play as a unit. that is the goal. if the team doesn't work as a unit, degenerating into isolation, desperation basketball, how on earth is that on fisher? you can make a case against fisher for *who* is out there, but not for what happens out there. that's on the players and how well they can execute the offense under greater defensive pressure. also, i don't like the lack of patience that so many knicks fans are exhibiting. whtever happened to giving a young, new team 25 games to figure things out?

i have liked derek fisher as a coach here from day 1. i like how he handles the press, i like how he seems to be getting through to anthony-- who is doing much better if not great the first 40 minutes of games-- and i think he is going to evolve into an excellent coach. articles and threads about his ineptitude are unfair.

EXCELLENT post! It's amazing to me how some expect Fish and the team to have it all figured inside of the 1st ten games and against top competition. It's not that easy. Even the CAVS struggled early last year as they tried to mesh all the moving parts but they had an even more experienced roster.

These Knicks are trying to win with a lot of young players mixed in. Kidd had that issue last year and his team ended up 41-41 last year! It's a process and there's a long way to go. It annoys me to read how great Kidd is but then not allow Fish more time to get a handle on his team.

nixluva wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:Another good read about Fishe

http://theknicksblog.com/knicks/hamilton...

moke hamilton is a clueless pos..

I disagree. Thought it was a good read and I follow Moke. What is your issue with him?

fisher is trying to get the team on the floor to play as a unit. that is the goal. if the team doesn't work as a unit, degenerating into isolation, desperation basketball, how on earth is that on fisher? you can make a case against fisher for *who* is out there, but not for what happens out there. that's on the players and how well they can execute the offense under greater defensive pressure. also, i don't like the lack of patience that so many knicks fans are exhibiting. whtever happened to giving a young, new team 25 games to figure things out?

i have liked derek fisher as a coach here from day 1. i like how he handles the press, i like how he seems to be getting through to anthony-- who is doing much better if not great the first 40 minutes of games-- and i think he is going to evolve into an excellent coach. articles and threads about his ineptitude are unfair.

EXCELLENT post! It's amazing to me how some expect Fish and the team to have it all figured inside of the 1st ten games and against top competition. It's not that easy. Even the CAVS struggled early last year as they tried to mesh all the moving parts but they had an even more experienced roster.

These Knicks are trying to win with a lot of young players mixed in. Kidd had that issue last year and his team ended up 41-41 last year! It's a process and there's a long way to go. It annoys me to read how great Kidd is but then not allow Fish more time to get a handle on his team.

Everyone should check out the records of the Cavs last year as well as Miami when the big 3 first landed.

I pitched hardball for 10 years. I remember some days I wouldn't have great control of the curve, or not the most lively fastball, and I would think... phucking coach did this to me!

martin wrote:

nixluva wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:Another good read about Fishe

http://theknicksblog.com/knicks/hamilton...

moke hamilton is a clueless pos..

I disagree. Thought it was a good read and I follow Moke. What is your issue with him?

fisher is trying to get the team on the floor to play as a unit. that is the goal. if the team doesn't work as a unit, degenerating into isolation, desperation basketball, how on earth is that on fisher? you can make a case against fisher for *who* is out there, but not for what happens out there. that's on the players and how well they can execute the offense under greater defensive pressure. also, i don't like the lack of patience that so many knicks fans are exhibiting. whtever happened to giving a young, new team 25 games to figure things out?

i have liked derek fisher as a coach here from day 1. i like how he handles the press, i like how he seems to be getting through to anthony-- who is doing much better if not great the first 40 minutes of games-- and i think he is going to evolve into an excellent coach. articles and threads about his ineptitude are unfair.

EXCELLENT post! It's amazing to me how some expect Fish and the team to have it all figured inside of the 1st ten games and against top competition. It's not that easy. Even the CAVS struggled early last year as they tried to mesh all the moving parts but they had an even more experienced roster.

These Knicks are trying to win with a lot of young players mixed in. Kidd had that issue last year and his team ended up 41-41 last year! It's a process and there's a long way to go. It annoys me to read how great Kidd is but then not allow Fish more time to get a handle on his team.

Everyone should check out the records of the Cavs last year as well as Miami when the big 3 first landed.

When you have a formula that appears to work, you find ways to solidify it. Fisher had a good thing working early on; the only dudes from the first four games who were not productive were Jose and Sasha. All he had to do was to play around with a different combination in the backcourt to generate production until Aflalo's return. He decided to stick with the unproductive backcourt, and change the one unit that was constantly producing (G & G, Williams, Lance, and KO).

JrZyHuStLa wrote:What executive steps in to set a rotation?

Phil decided to hire a neophyte like Fisher to coach; he has the credentials to tell fisher what to do