GustavBahler wrote:Id take Porzingis over Russell now even though I still believe Russell will be something special in time. Part of the problem IMO is Kobe's farewell tour, and the intimidation factor. The other problem is Byron Scott. He was fired from his last gig because he wasnt an X and Os guy, rarely drew up plays. Thats not who you want developing a possible franchise PG. Im guessing that Scott was hired for Kobe more than anything. Once Kobe is out of the picture, Im guessing that Scott will be too unless Russell makes a big jump this season.
Once Russell is given the keys to the offense and it becomes his team I believe we will see a different player.
And guess who is the most anti analytic guy in the league? Scott! 
I guess that means that Analytics win? Uh ... no. That is stupid. Bryon Scott or any person is irrelevant to the overall argument.
GustavBahler wrote:Id take Porzingis over Russell now even though I still believe Russell will be something special in time. Part of the problem IMO is Kobe's farewell tour, and the intimidation factor. The other problem is Byron Scott. He was fired from his last gig because he wasnt an X and Os guy, rarely drew up plays. Thats not who you want developing a possible franchise PG. Im guessing that Scott was hired for Kobe more than anything. Once Kobe is out of the picture, Im guessing that Scott will be too unless Russell makes a big jump this season.
Once Russell is given the keys to the offense and it becomes his team I believe we will see a different player.
Genuine question, what is Russell's standout skill?
Even when he couldn't shoot the ball into a sinkhole, you could see Rubio's court vision/passing.
Same with Wall, you could immediately see his speed/quickness.
Curry could always shoot.
What skill immediately stands out when you see Russell on the court?
bigbasketballs wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Id take Porzingis over Russell now even though I still believe Russell will be something special in time. Part of the problem IMO is Kobe's farewell tour, and the intimidation factor. The other problem is Byron Scott. He was fired from his last gig because he wasnt an X and Os guy, rarely drew up plays. Thats not who you want developing a possible franchise PG. Im guessing that Scott was hired for Kobe more than anything. Once Kobe is out of the picture, Im guessing that Scott will be too unless Russell makes a big jump this season.
Once Russell is given the keys to the offense and it becomes his team I believe we will see a different player.
Genuine question, what is Russell's standout skill?
Even when he couldn't shoot the ball into a sinkhole, you could see Rubio's court vision/passing.
Same with Wall, you could immediately see his speed/quickness.
Curry could always shoot.
What skill immediately stands out when you see Russell on the court?
great passer, very high bball IQ.
mreinman wrote:bigbasketballs wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Id take Porzingis over Russell now even though I still believe Russell will be something special in time. Part of the problem IMO is Kobe's farewell tour, and the intimidation factor. The other problem is Byron Scott. He was fired from his last gig because he wasnt an X and Os guy, rarely drew up plays. Thats not who you want developing a possible franchise PG. Im guessing that Scott was hired for Kobe more than anything. Once Kobe is out of the picture, Im guessing that Scott will be too unless Russell makes a big jump this season.
Once Russell is given the keys to the offense and it becomes his team I believe we will see a different player.
Genuine question, what is Russell's standout skill?
Even when he couldn't shoot the ball into a sinkhole, you could see Rubio's court vision/passing.
Same with Wall, you could immediately see his speed/quickness.
Curry could always shoot.
What skill immediately stands out when you see Russell on the court?
great passer
On the NBA level? That has shown on the floor?
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/rookies/sort/assistRatio
Not showing up in the stats.
mreinman wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Id take Porzingis over Russell now even though I still believe Russell will be something special in time. Part of the problem IMO is Kobe's farewell tour, and the intimidation factor. The other problem is Byron Scott. He was fired from his last gig because he wasnt an X and Os guy, rarely drew up plays. Thats not who you want developing a possible franchise PG. Im guessing that Scott was hired for Kobe more than anything. Once Kobe is out of the picture, Im guessing that Scott will be too unless Russell makes a big jump this season.
Once Russell is given the keys to the offense and it becomes his team I believe we will see a different player.
And guess who is the most anti analytic guy in the league? Scott!
I guess that means that Analytics win? Uh ... no. That is stupid. Bryon Scott or any person is irrelevant to the overall argument.
I dont know what the hell you're talking about. My comment had absolutely nothing to do with analytics, nor did it suggest that Scott as Laker coach made me want to pick Porzingis over Russell now. Porzingis doing things in his first few games that few rookies have ever done, Scott has nothing to do with that.
I still believe Russell will be a special player but He's in a f'ed up situation right now and its going to take more time for him to have an impact.
bigbasketballs wrote:mreinman wrote:bigbasketballs wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Id take Porzingis over Russell now even though I still believe Russell will be something special in time. Part of the problem IMO is Kobe's farewell tour, and the intimidation factor. The other problem is Byron Scott. He was fired from his last gig because he wasnt an X and Os guy, rarely drew up plays. Thats not who you want developing a possible franchise PG. Im guessing that Scott was hired for Kobe more than anything. Once Kobe is out of the picture, Im guessing that Scott will be too unless Russell makes a big jump this season.
Once Russell is given the keys to the offense and it becomes his team I believe we will see a different player.
Genuine question, what is Russell's standout skill?
Even when he couldn't shoot the ball into a sinkhole, you could see Rubio's court vision/passing.
Same with Wall, you could immediately see his speed/quickness.
Curry could always shoot.
What skill immediately stands out when you see Russell on the court?
great passer
On the NBA level? That has shown on the floor?
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/rookies/sort/assistRatio
Not showing up in the stats.
variables at play.
Not everything can be determined with stats. Eye test is really helpful and very much needed when watching the puky lakers.
GustavBahler wrote:mreinman wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Id take Porzingis over Russell now even though I still believe Russell will be something special in time. Part of the problem IMO is Kobe's farewell tour, and the intimidation factor. The other problem is Byron Scott. He was fired from his last gig because he wasnt an X and Os guy, rarely drew up plays. Thats not who you want developing a possible franchise PG. Im guessing that Scott was hired for Kobe more than anything. Once Kobe is out of the picture, Im guessing that Scott will be too unless Russell makes a big jump this season.
Once Russell is given the keys to the offense and it becomes his team I believe we will see a different player.
And guess who is the most anti analytic guy in the league? Scott!
I guess that means that Analytics win? Uh ... no. That is stupid. Bryon Scott or any person is irrelevant to the overall argument.
I dont know what the hell you're talking about. My comment had absolutely nothing to do with analytics, nor did it suggest that Scott as Laker coach made me want to pick Porzingis over Russell now. Porzingis doing things in his first few games that few rookies have ever done, Scott has nothing to do with that.
I still believe Russell will be a special player but He's in a f'ed up situation right now and its going to take more time for him to have an impact.
I very much agree with your post. My comment was mostly tongue and cheek for other silly arguments going on today.
mreinman wrote:bigbasketballs wrote:mreinman wrote:bigbasketballs wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Id take Porzingis over Russell now even though I still believe Russell will be something special in time. Part of the problem IMO is Kobe's farewell tour, and the intimidation factor. The other problem is Byron Scott. He was fired from his last gig because he wasnt an X and Os guy, rarely drew up plays. Thats not who you want developing a possible franchise PG. Im guessing that Scott was hired for Kobe more than anything. Once Kobe is out of the picture, Im guessing that Scott will be too unless Russell makes a big jump this season.
Once Russell is given the keys to the offense and it becomes his team I believe we will see a different player.
Genuine question, what is Russell's standout skill?
Even when he couldn't shoot the ball into a sinkhole, you could see Rubio's court vision/passing.
Same with Wall, you could immediately see his speed/quickness.
Curry could always shoot.
What skill immediately stands out when you see Russell on the court?
great passer
On the NBA level? That has shown on the floor?
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/rookies/sort/assistRatio
Not showing up in the stats.
variables at play.
Not everything can be determined with stats. Eye test is really helpful and very much needed when watching the puky lakers.
That's why I'm asking, I haven't seen a standout passer and/or someone with superior court vision.
If others have… okay.
bigbasketballs wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Id take Porzingis over Russell now even though I still believe Russell will be something special in time. Part of the problem IMO is Kobe's farewell tour, and the intimidation factor. The other problem is Byron Scott. He was fired from his last gig because he wasnt an X and Os guy, rarely drew up plays. Thats not who you want developing a possible franchise PG. Im guessing that Scott was hired for Kobe more than anything. Once Kobe is out of the picture, Im guessing that Scott will be too unless Russell makes a big jump this season.
Once Russell is given the keys to the offense and it becomes his team I believe we will see a different player.
Genuine question, what is Russell's standout skill?
Even when he couldn't shoot the ball into a sinkhole, you could see Rubio's court vision/passing.
Same with Wall, you could immediately see his speed/quickness.
Curry could always shoot.
What skill immediately stands out when you see Russell on the court?
You don't believe Russell has great court vision? Saw enough in college to believe he has. Russell has a very good handle and can hit a 3. Granted, I havent seen that much of him as a Laker, but I do believe he has the skills to be one of the best PGs in the league eventually.
GustavBahler wrote:bigbasketballs wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Id take Porzingis over Russell now even though I still believe Russell will be something special in time. Part of the problem IMO is Kobe's farewell tour, and the intimidation factor. The other problem is Byron Scott. He was fired from his last gig because he wasnt an X and Os guy, rarely drew up plays. Thats not who you want developing a possible franchise PG. Im guessing that Scott was hired for Kobe more than anything. Once Kobe is out of the picture, Im guessing that Scott will be too unless Russell makes a big jump this season.
Once Russell is given the keys to the offense and it becomes his team I believe we will see a different player.
Genuine question, what is Russell's standout skill?
Even when he couldn't shoot the ball into a sinkhole, you could see Rubio's court vision/passing.
Same with Wall, you could immediately see his speed/quickness.
Curry could always shoot.
What skill immediately stands out when you see Russell on the court?
You don't believe Russell has great court vision? Saw enough in college to believe he has. Russell also a very good handle and can hit a 3. Granted, I havent seen that much of him as a Laker, but I do believe he has the skills to be one of the best PGs in the league eventually.
and an incredible passer to add to that. I was and still am very high on Russell for those reasons.
GustavBahler wrote:bigbasketballs wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Id take Porzingis over Russell now even though I still believe Russell will be something special in time. Part of the problem IMO is Kobe's farewell tour, and the intimidation factor. The other problem is Byron Scott. He was fired from his last gig because he wasnt an X and Os guy, rarely drew up plays. Thats not who you want developing a possible franchise PG. Im guessing that Scott was hired for Kobe more than anything. Once Kobe is out of the picture, Im guessing that Scott will be too unless Russell makes a big jump this season.
Once Russell is given the keys to the offense and it becomes his team I believe we will see a different player.
Genuine question, what is Russell's standout skill?
Even when he couldn't shoot the ball into a sinkhole, you could see Rubio's court vision/passing.
Same with Wall, you could immediately see his speed/quickness.
Curry could always shoot.
What skill immediately stands out when you see Russell on the court?
You don't believe Russell has great court vision? Saw enough in college to believe he has. Russell has a very good handle and can hit a 3. Granted, I havent seen that much of him as a Laker, but I do believe he has the skills to be one of the best PGs in the league eventually.
The question was 'on the NBA level' on purpose.
Players standout skills don't go away because of the team they are on. Porzingis hasn't shot well but you could at least see the form.
Is Russell exhibiting the kind of passing and court vision which was his calling card in OSU?
Even if he was turning the ball over or making deft passes to brick shooters the skills would be evident (ala Rubio).
Who's seen that in him?
I haven't.
bigbasketballs wrote:GustavBahler wrote:bigbasketballs wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Id take Porzingis over Russell now even though I still believe Russell will be something special in time. Part of the problem IMO is Kobe's farewell tour, and the intimidation factor. The other problem is Byron Scott. He was fired from his last gig because he wasnt an X and Os guy, rarely drew up plays. Thats not who you want developing a possible franchise PG. Im guessing that Scott was hired for Kobe more than anything. Once Kobe is out of the picture, Im guessing that Scott will be too unless Russell makes a big jump this season.
Once Russell is given the keys to the offense and it becomes his team I believe we will see a different player.
Genuine question, what is Russell's standout skill?
Even when he couldn't shoot the ball into a sinkhole, you could see Rubio's court vision/passing.
Same with Wall, you could immediately see his speed/quickness.
Curry could always shoot.
What skill immediately stands out when you see Russell on the court?
You don't believe Russell has great court vision? Saw enough in college to believe he has. Russell has a very good handle and can hit a 3. Granted, I havent seen that much of him as a Laker, but I do believe he has the skills to be one of the best PGs in the league eventually.
The question was 'on the NBA level' on purpose.
Players standout skills don't go away because of the team they are on. Porzingis hasn't shot well but you could at least see the form.
Is Russell exhibiting the kind of passing and court vision which was his calling card in OSU?
Even if he was turning the ball over or making deft passes to brick shooters the skills would be evident (ala Rubio).
Who's seen that in him?
I haven't.
have you watched him play other than against the knicks?
fishmike wrote:GustavBahler wrote:bigbasketballs wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Id take Porzingis over Russell now even though I still believe Russell will be something special in time. Part of the problem IMO is Kobe's farewell tour, and the intimidation factor. The other problem is Byron Scott. He was fired from his last gig because he wasnt an X and Os guy, rarely drew up plays. Thats not who you want developing a possible franchise PG. Im guessing that Scott was hired for Kobe more than anything. Once Kobe is out of the picture, Im guessing that Scott will be too unless Russell makes a big jump this season.
Once Russell is given the keys to the offense and it becomes his team I believe we will see a different player.
Genuine question, what is Russell's standout skill?
Even when he couldn't shoot the ball into a sinkhole, you could see Rubio's court vision/passing.
Same with Wall, you could immediately see his speed/quickness.
Curry could always shoot.
What skill immediately stands out when you see Russell on the court?
You don't believe Russell has great court vision? Saw enough in college to believe he has. Russell also a very good handle and can hit a 3. Granted, I havent seen that much of him as a Laker, but I do believe he has the skills to be one of the best PGs in the league eventually.
and an incredible passer to add to that. I was and still am very high on Russell for those reasons.
Yeah, I put passing as part of the whole court vision thing. I believe you did post the first article here on Russell. Many players go through sophmore slumps, I'm guessing it will be the opposite for Russell.
mreinman wrote:bigbasketballs wrote:GustavBahler wrote:bigbasketballs wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Id take Porzingis over Russell now even though I still believe Russell will be something special in time. Part of the problem IMO is Kobe's farewell tour, and the intimidation factor. The other problem is Byron Scott. He was fired from his last gig because he wasnt an X and Os guy, rarely drew up plays. Thats not who you want developing a possible franchise PG. Im guessing that Scott was hired for Kobe more than anything. Once Kobe is out of the picture, Im guessing that Scott will be too unless Russell makes a big jump this season.
Once Russell is given the keys to the offense and it becomes his team I believe we will see a different player.
Genuine question, what is Russell's standout skill?
Even when he couldn't shoot the ball into a sinkhole, you could see Rubio's court vision/passing.
Same with Wall, you could immediately see his speed/quickness.
Curry could always shoot.
What skill immediately stands out when you see Russell on the court?
You don't believe Russell has great court vision? Saw enough in college to believe he has. Russell has a very good handle and can hit a 3. Granted, I havent seen that much of him as a Laker, but I do believe he has the skills to be one of the best PGs in the league eventually.
The question was 'on the NBA level' on purpose.
Players standout skills don't go away because of the team they are on. Porzingis hasn't shot well but you could at least see the form.
Is Russell exhibiting the kind of passing and court vision which was his calling card in OSU?
Even if he was turning the ball over or making deft passes to brick shooters the skills would be evident (ala Rubio).
Who's seen that in him?
I haven't.
have you watched him play other than against the knicks?
Yes.
Have you seen lottery-worthy court vision/passing?
GustavBahler wrote:fishmike wrote:GustavBahler wrote:bigbasketballs wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Id take Porzingis over Russell now even though I still believe Russell will be something special in time. Part of the problem IMO is Kobe's farewell tour, and the intimidation factor. The other problem is Byron Scott. He was fired from his last gig because he wasnt an X and Os guy, rarely drew up plays. Thats not who you want developing a possible franchise PG. Im guessing that Scott was hired for Kobe more than anything. Once Kobe is out of the picture, Im guessing that Scott will be too unless Russell makes a big jump this season.
Once Russell is given the keys to the offense and it becomes his team I believe we will see a different player.
Genuine question, what is Russell's standout skill?
Even when he couldn't shoot the ball into a sinkhole, you could see Rubio's court vision/passing.
Same with Wall, you could immediately see his speed/quickness.
Curry could always shoot.
What skill immediately stands out when you see Russell on the court?
You don't believe Russell has great court vision? Saw enough in college to believe he has. Russell also a very good handle and can hit a 3. Granted, I havent seen that much of him as a Laker, but I do believe he has the skills to be one of the best PGs in the league eventually.
and an incredible passer to add to that. I was and still am very high on Russell for those reasons.
Yeah, I put passing as part of the whole court vision thing. I believe you did post the first article here on Russell. Many players go through sophmore slumps, I'm guessing it will be the opposite for Russell.
I think that he will be good.
Its not just dik heads like kobe who are holding him back. Scott is an idiot, Nick fukking young (argh) and now even Jordan Clarkson is being taught to play like a selfish piece of sh1t.
An idiot team with an idiot coach with zero ball movement is perfect for a high bball IQ rookie ... horrible!
I think the only reason why they keep scott is to insure that they pick top three and don't lose their pick to idiot Hinkie.
I pray that they ending up picking 4th! wet dream!
bigbasketballs wrote:mreinman wrote:bigbasketballs wrote:GustavBahler wrote:bigbasketballs wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Id take Porzingis over Russell now even though I still believe Russell will be something special in time. Part of the problem IMO is Kobe's farewell tour, and the intimidation factor. The other problem is Byron Scott. He was fired from his last gig because he wasnt an X and Os guy, rarely drew up plays. Thats not who you want developing a possible franchise PG. Im guessing that Scott was hired for Kobe more than anything. Once Kobe is out of the picture, Im guessing that Scott will be too unless Russell makes a big jump this season.
Once Russell is given the keys to the offense and it becomes his team I believe we will see a different player.
Genuine question, what is Russell's standout skill?
Even when he couldn't shoot the ball into a sinkhole, you could see Rubio's court vision/passing.
Same with Wall, you could immediately see his speed/quickness.
Curry could always shoot.
What skill immediately stands out when you see Russell on the court?
You don't believe Russell has great court vision? Saw enough in college to believe he has. Russell has a very good handle and can hit a 3. Granted, I havent seen that much of him as a Laker, but I do believe he has the skills to be one of the best PGs in the league eventually.
The question was 'on the NBA level' on purpose.
Players standout skills don't go away because of the team they are on. Porzingis hasn't shot well but you could at least see the form.
Is Russell exhibiting the kind of passing and court vision which was his calling card in OSU?
Even if he was turning the ball over or making deft passes to brick shooters the skills would be evident (ala Rubio).
Who's seen that in him?
I haven't.
have you watched him play other than against the knicks?
Yes.
Have you seen lottery-worthy court vision/passing?
absolutely have.
the only think that I have been unimpressed with is his defense. Its even worse than I thought.
bigbasketballs wrote:GustavBahler wrote:bigbasketballs wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Id take Porzingis over Russell now even though I still believe Russell will be something special in time. Part of the problem IMO is Kobe's farewell tour, and the intimidation factor. The other problem is Byron Scott. He was fired from his last gig because he wasnt an X and Os guy, rarely drew up plays. Thats not who you want developing a possible franchise PG. Im guessing that Scott was hired for Kobe more than anything. Once Kobe is out of the picture, Im guessing that Scott will be too unless Russell makes a big jump this season.
Once Russell is given the keys to the offense and it becomes his team I believe we will see a different player.
Genuine question, what is Russell's standout skill?
Even when he couldn't shoot the ball into a sinkhole, you could see Rubio's court vision/passing.
Same with Wall, you could immediately see his speed/quickness.
Curry could always shoot.
What skill immediately stands out when you see Russell on the court?
You don't believe Russell has great court vision? Saw enough in college to believe he has. Russell has a very good handle and can hit a 3. Granted, I havent seen that much of him as a Laker, but I do believe he has the skills to be one of the best PGs in the league eventually.
The question was 'on the NBA level' on purpose.
Players standout skills don't go away because of the team they are on. Porzingis hasn't shot well but you could at least see the form.
Is Russell exhibiting the kind of passing and court vision which was his calling card in OSU?
Even if he was turning the ball over or making deft passes to brick shooters the skills would be evident (ala Rubio).
Who's seen that in him?
I haven't.
Like I said, I believe he is in a bad situation right now. Cant really disagree with your assessment of what he's doing now becuase I haven't seen enough of him as a Laker, but I do believe what Russell showed he could do in college we will eventually see in the NBA.
One of Laker games I watched, Scott had Russell standing in the corner behind the arc. No one was passing the ball to him, Kobe was dominating the offense, and Russell looked like an afterthought out there. Hard to have an impact in that kind of situation. Im confident Russell will emerge in time.
ChuckBuck wrote:fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:fishmike wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Mudiay might be special as well but wouldnt have been a perfect a fit for the Knicks as KP has been
Mudiay's and OK4's role with their teams are vastly different than KP's role with the Knicks..KP is not asked to be THE guy for his team and create opportunities for others..Melo has that role for us..KP fed off other players tonight and it should be that way..KP is excelling in his role of as a secondary/opportunistic scorer..And that a good thing..
ahh... so here it is. Several here have been saying KP has franchise potential. Your retort has been "well we havent SEEN that" so when he drops 29/11 and is the best player on the floor "he's an opportunistic scorer"phucking lame
its all about melo for that guy. Porzingis is proving he can do pretty much everything which is why he is our best all around player
He's not, and its not even close. Can he be eventually? Most certainly yes and that is everyone's hope as Melo is a HOF player and KP is a rookie coming off a good game. That being said the bold statement is laughable. Exciting and hopeful sure, but not accurate in any way shape or form.
It's actually closer than you think. Melo maybe the "proven" incumbent star now, but this season is all about transitioning to KP as the focal point. Especially as KP improves his efficiency scoring wise. He's already getting a massive amount of touches a game. Fisher knows what's up.
Anyone remember the Lakers with Magic Johnson and Kareem, where it was Kareem's team and Magic was the precocious neophyte coming in back then? This is where this is headed with the Knicks.
This season is NOT about transitioning to KP as the focal point and it'd be counterproductive to do so.
Magic and Kareem analogy is off target because Johnson played a position in which he could control the game.
Porzingis, even at the height of his abilities, will need facilitators.
Porzingis does not need to be made the focal point of the offense and it'd be counterproductive to attempt to make him it.
The beauty of Tuesday was his 29 came free and easy in the flow of the game, not by force-feeding him the ball.
Having Melo on the floor being the focal point is the BEST thing that could happen to a 20 year old 7'3" rookie. That won't and should't change this year.
Probably not for a few.
GustavBahler wrote:bigbasketballs wrote:GustavBahler wrote:bigbasketballs wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Id take Porzingis over Russell now even though I still believe Russell will be something special in time. Part of the problem IMO is Kobe's farewell tour, and the intimidation factor. The other problem is Byron Scott. He was fired from his last gig because he wasnt an X and Os guy, rarely drew up plays. Thats not who you want developing a possible franchise PG. Im guessing that Scott was hired for Kobe more than anything. Once Kobe is out of the picture, Im guessing that Scott will be too unless Russell makes a big jump this season.
Once Russell is given the keys to the offense and it becomes his team I believe we will see a different player.
Genuine question, what is Russell's standout skill?
Even when he couldn't shoot the ball into a sinkhole, you could see Rubio's court vision/passing.
Same with Wall, you could immediately see his speed/quickness.
Curry could always shoot.
What skill immediately stands out when you see Russell on the court?
You don't believe Russell has great court vision? Saw enough in college to believe he has. Russell has a very good handle and can hit a 3. Granted, I havent seen that much of him as a Laker, but I do believe he has the skills to be one of the best PGs in the league eventually.
The question was 'on the NBA level' on purpose.
Players standout skills don't go away because of the team they are on. Porzingis hasn't shot well but you could at least see the form.
Is Russell exhibiting the kind of passing and court vision which was his calling card in OSU?
Even if he was turning the ball over or making deft passes to brick shooters the skills would be evident (ala Rubio).
Who's seen that in him?
I haven't.
Like I said, I believe he is in a bad situation right now. Cant really disagree with your assessment of what he's doing now becuase I haven't seen enough of him as a Laker, but I do believe what Russell showed he could do in college we will eventually see in the NBA.
One of Laker games I watched, Scott had Russell standing in the corner behind the arc. No one was passing the ball to him, Kobe was dominating the offense, and Russell looked like an afterthought out there. Hard to have an impact in that kind of situation. Im confident Russell will emerge in time.
that wasn't just the game you watched. Thats pretty much every game.
bigbasketballs wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:fishmike wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Mudiay might be special as well but wouldnt have been a perfect a fit for the Knicks as KP has been
Mudiay's and OK4's role with their teams are vastly different than KP's role with the Knicks..KP is not asked to be THE guy for his team and create opportunities for others..Melo has that role for us..KP fed off other players tonight and it should be that way..KP is excelling in his role of as a secondary/opportunistic scorer..And that a good thing..
ahh... so here it is. Several here have been saying KP has franchise potential. Your retort has been "well we havent SEEN that" so when he drops 29/11 and is the best player on the floor "he's an opportunistic scorer"phucking lame
its all about melo for that guy. Porzingis is proving he can do pretty much everything which is why he is our best all around player
He's not, and its not even close. Can he be eventually? Most certainly yes and that is everyone's hope as Melo is a HOF player and KP is a rookie coming off a good game. That being said the bold statement is laughable. Exciting and hopeful sure, but not accurate in any way shape or form.
It's actually closer than you think. Melo maybe the "proven" incumbent star now, but this season is all about transitioning to KP as the focal point. Especially as KP improves his efficiency scoring wise. He's already getting a massive amount of touches a game. Fisher knows what's up.
Anyone remember the Lakers with Magic Johnson and Kareem, where it was Kareem's team and Magic was the precocious neophyte coming in back then? This is where this is headed with the Knicks.
This season is NOT about transitioning to KP as the focal point and it'd be counterproductive to do so.
Magic and Kareem analogy is off target because Johnson played a position in which he could control the game.
Porzingis, even at the height of his abilities, will need facilitators.
Porzingis does not need to be made the focal point of the offense and it'd be counterproductive to attempt to make him it.
The beauty of Tuesday was his 29 came free and easy in the flow of the game, not by force-feeding him the ball.
Having Melo on the floor being the focal point is the BEST thing that could happen to a 20 year old 7'3" rookie. That won't and should't change this year.
Probably not for a few.
Very on point. You have to wonder if KP would even have 29 points if Melo wasn't here. Melo's presence allows KP to play free and within the flow of the game, and erupt from time to time as a complimentary piece. He keeps great spacing from Melo, something Amare could never do, and seems to focus on playing off of him. I have loved the chemistry between the two of them.
