For a large portion of last night's game at Houston, Fisher had Porzingis playing center. He responded very well, making me think that's his ultimate position. I guess a lot of Fisher's timing in playing him at center last night had to do with Howard's not playing. KP is very tough, but he's still on the slim side and maybe we'll see him more against teams when they're not playing a strong center. But those seven blocks were special and had an intimidating effect on the Rockets. I'd like to see more of KP as a center.
I think in certain situations he will play center. However right now he is terrific at the 4.
Ira wrote:For a large portion of last night's game at Houston, Fisher had Porzingis playing center. He responded very well, making me think that's his ultimate position. I guess a lot of Fisher's timing in playing him at center last night had to do with Howard's not playing. KP is very tough, but he's still on the slim side and maybe we'll see him more against teams when they're not playing a strong center. But those seven blocks were special and had an intimidating effect on the Rockets. I'd like to see more of KP as a center.
He will end up a center at some point, especially as he ages because he will lose his foot speed i'm guessing by the time he 27,28.
There was a clear advantage to putting KP at center last night. No Howard and Capela in foul trouble (eventually fouling out). The rest of the Rockets team is like no bigger than 6'7". Fisher IMO is playing the Game-Game matchups smartly in many cases so far.
Ira wrote:For a large portion of last night's game at Houston, Fisher had Porzingis playing center. He responded very well, making me think that's his ultimate position. I guess a lot of Fisher's timing in playing him at center last night had to do with Howard's not playing. KP is very tough, but he's still on the slim side and maybe we'll see him more against teams when they're not playing a strong center. But those seven blocks were special and had an intimidating effect on the Rockets. I'd like to see more of KP as a center.
Yeah, agree completely.
I believe the first game time Melo played 4 and KP played 5 was against the Pelicans last week, but I think there's been a stretch every game since then where KP played the 5. Last night felt like the longest stretch - and most dominant. He put up your standard franchise player center numbers last night.
Also the scoring felt effortless. He only took 12 shots and got 24pts. You could easily see him getting 40pts one night soon. He's had 29pts and 24pts recently and it never felt like he was shooting a lot or out of the flow of the game.
Actually the closest comparison to Porzingis may be a young Sabonis who some say might have been the greatest center of all time.
clyderules wrote:Actually the closest comparison to Porzingis may be a young Sabonis who some say might have been the greatest center of all time.
That dude Sabonis was the real deal.
clyderules wrote:Actually the closest comparison to Porzingis may be a young Sabonis who some say might have been the greatest center of all time.
Sabonis without the passing.
clyderules wrote:Actually the closest comparison to Porzingis may be a young Sabonis who some say might have been the greatest center of all time.
Nope...he was much more of a bruiser when young, and did not have KP's range in his prime, which is the Sabonis I am talking about. The young Sabonis would also have had a lot of issues with the rules today, by the way, and would have been in constant foul trouble.
If KP had Sabonis' strength, or ever gets it, and his skills are not diminished, we are talking about a kind of player who has never existed before.
I don't feel KP has the frame to be like a young Sabonis, and I don't think he will ever have the sheer strength of the Russian.
At this point he seems to be creating his own category of player-type, and I still don't understand how far he can go.
WaltLongmire wrote:clyderules wrote:Actually the closest comparison to Porzingis may be a young Sabonis who some say might have been the greatest center of all time.
Nope...he was much more of a bruiser when young, and did not have KP's range in his prime, which is the Sabonis I am talking about. The young Sabonis would also have had a lot of issues with the rules today, by the way, and would have been in constant foul trouble.
If KP had Sabonis' strength, or ever gets it, and his skills are not diminished, we are talking about a kind of player who has never existed before.
I don't feel KP has the frame to be like a young Sabonis, and I don't think he will ever have the sheer strength of the Russian.
At this point he seems to be creating his own category of player-type, and I still don't understand how far he can go.
I agree - it's hard to tell what his ceiling is, because he possesses a mix of things we haven't seen together before. He's seemingly got Kareem attributes in the post and a slightly taller version of Kareem's body type. But he's got a little more range on his shot and a pure stroke. But I think Kareem may be the closest overall comp.
I was a big sabonis fan BUT that isnt a good compariso to KP. Kp seems closer to dirk with better defense/rebounding
crzymdups wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:clyderules wrote:Actually the closest comparison to Porzingis may be a young Sabonis who some say might have been the greatest center of all time.
Nope...he was much more of a bruiser when young, and did not have KP's range in his prime, which is the Sabonis I am talking about. The young Sabonis would also have had a lot of issues with the rules today, by the way, and would have been in constant foul trouble.
If KP had Sabonis' strength, or ever gets it, and his skills are not diminished, we are talking about a kind of player who has never existed before.
I don't feel KP has the frame to be like a young Sabonis, and I don't think he will ever have the sheer strength of the Russian.
At this point he seems to be creating his own category of player-type, and I still don't understand how far he can go.
I agree - it's hard to tell what his ceiling is, because he possesses a mix of things we haven't seen together before. He's seemingly got Kareem attributes in the post and a slightly taller version of Kareem's body type. But he's got a little more range on his shot and a pure stroke. But I think Kareem may be the closest overall comp.
You might be right. I can't think of another player that he compares to.
CrushAlot wrote:crzymdups wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:clyderules wrote:Actually the closest comparison to Porzingis may be a young Sabonis who some say might have been the greatest center of all time.
Nope...he was much more of a bruiser when young, and did not have KP's range in his prime, which is the Sabonis I am talking about. The young Sabonis would also have had a lot of issues with the rules today, by the way, and would have been in constant foul trouble.
If KP had Sabonis' strength, or ever gets it, and his skills are not diminished, we are talking about a kind of player who has never existed before.
I don't feel KP has the frame to be like a young Sabonis, and I don't think he will ever have the sheer strength of the Russian.
At this point he seems to be creating his own category of player-type, and I still don't understand how far he can go.
I agree - it's hard to tell what his ceiling is, because he possesses a mix of things we haven't seen together before. He's seemingly got Kareem attributes in the post and a slightly taller version of Kareem's body type. But he's got a little more range on his shot and a pure stroke. But I think Kareem may be the closest overall comp.
You might be right. I can't think of another player that he compares to.
Ralph Sampson? I thought I mentioned him earlier in the year but got shot down by some, but that was before KP started showing what he can do.
Kareem could shoot a midrange J if needed, but there was no reason to shoot longer Js during his prime. Knowing him, he could have developed the range if there had been a reason to.
Would love to hire him to work with KP on a sky hook, though. Would be good for both of them, IMO.
he is a cross between durant and kareem
It seems that all you have to do with Porzingis is mention his weaknesses and he immediately turns them into strengths. Like his rebounding, stamina and foul trouble. So I'm announcing that he needs to be as strong as Sabonis and pass like him.
There, it's done!
clyderules wrote:It seems that all you have to do with Porzingis is mention his weaknesses and he immediately turns them into strengths. Like his rebounding, stamina and foul trouble. So I'm announcing that he needs to be as strong as Sabonis and pass like him. There, it's done!
clyderules wrote:It seems that all you have to do with Porzingis is mention his weaknesses and he immediately turns them into strengths. Like his rebounding, stamina and foul trouble. So I'm announcing that he needs to be as strong as Sabonis and pass like him. There, it's done!
In all seriousness. I'm not expecting Divac or Webber or even Noah, but passing with a purpose is something that could use improvement as the months and years pass.
bigbasketballs wrote:clyderules wrote:It seems that all you have to do with Porzingis is mention his weaknesses and he immediately turns them into strengths. Like his rebounding, stamina and foul trouble. So I'm announcing that he needs to be as strong as Sabonis and pass like him. There, it's done!
In all seriousness. I'm not expecting Divac or Webber or even Noah, but passing with a purpose is something that could use improvement as the months and years pass.
his passing is already good
StarksEwing1 wrote:bigbasketballs wrote:clyderules wrote:It seems that all you have to do with Porzingis is mention his weaknesses and he immediately turns them into strengths. Like his rebounding, stamina and foul trouble. So I'm announcing that he needs to be as strong as Sabonis and pass like him. There, it's done!
In all seriousness. I'm not expecting Divac or Webber or even Noah, but passing with a purpose is something that could use improvement as the months and years pass.
his passing is already good
His passing is perfunctory.
He is creating scoring opportunities for teammates (assists, hockey assists and passes that lead to free throws) at a near team-low rate.
bigbasketballs wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:bigbasketballs wrote:clyderules wrote:It seems that all you have to do with Porzingis is mention his weaknesses and he immediately turns them into strengths. Like his rebounding, stamina and foul trouble. So I'm announcing that he needs to be as strong as Sabonis and pass like him. There, it's done!
In all seriousness. I'm not expecting Divac or Webber or even Noah, but passing with a purpose is something that could use improvement as the months and years pass.
his passing is already good
His passing is perfunctory.
He is creating scoring opportunities for teammates (assists, hockey assists and passes that lead to free throws) at a near team-low rate.
the kid isnt a finished product but he does pretty much everything
