I witnessed the offensive repertoire that led to 28 pts last night but KP has not looked the same on D the last two games. Not staying low and moving as well laterally. Not holding his ground or shedding contact as well, no reacting nor showing the same spring on jumps. . It suggests to me that he may be getting tired from ever increasing minutes. Difficult for rooks to adjust and maintain play to physicality and pace of NBA . 22 games in with sixty or more to go, he's the main attraction and key to Knicks but hope Fischer and Jackson dont run him into ground and he hits the proverbial wall. Anyone else notice what I see? Kid could use a break in schedule
meloanyk wrote:I witnessed the offensive repertoire that led to 28 pts last night but KP has not looked the same on D the last two games. Not staying low and moving as well laterally. Not holding his ground or shedding contact as well, no reacting nor showing the same spring on jumps. . It suggests to me that he may be getting tired from ever increasing minutes. Difficult for rooks to adjust and maintain play to physicality and pace of NBA . 22 games in with sixty or more to go, he's the main attraction and key to Knicks but hope Fischer and Jackson dont run him into ground and he hits the proverbial wall. Anyone else notice what I see? Kid could use a break in schedule
or maybe its hard to guard Dirk and to be in position when our guards are getting penetrated on.
He does not look tired out there at all.
Teams are starting to pay more attention to KP in terms of their scouting. I think they are saying he has to be boxed out and put a body on him to decrease his effectiveness. There have been fewer of his uncontested put back dunks lately.
I didn't get to see the last few games but with Lopez not playing much, I am not sure how many rebounds KP can get on his own (as Lopez is great at boxing out and creating space.)
Melo and Afallo need to bring their (offensive) game up as does Gallo and company, there is too much pressure on KP to do everything and that is a disaster waiting to happen.
The wall will probably be hit, we can just hope it isn't a big wall.
He looks like Dirk on offense and Shawn on Defense!!!!!
earthmansurfer wrote:I didn't get to see the last few games but with Lopez not playing much, I am not sure how many rebounds KP can get on his own (as Lopez is great at boxing out and creating space.)Melo and Afallo need to bring their (offensive) game up as does Gallo and company, there is too much pressure on KP to do everything and that is a disaster waiting to happen.
The wall will probably be hit, we can just hope it isn't a big wall.
He hit the floor a couple times last night. Teams last two games have been initiating contact and banging KP below the foul line on each end . KP reactions on D have been a step slow. As you say, Knicks cant expect kid to do it all.
Agree on pt about Lopez, he is known for clearly space and that helps others while suppressing his own . Good rim protector and help defender. Just wish Lopez was a more effective m2m D. His brother and Monroe had their way. Seems to me that he should b more bothersome
mreinman wrote:meloanyk wrote:I witnessed the offensive repertoire that led to 28 pts last night but KP has not looked the same on D the last two games. Not staying low and moving as well laterally. Not holding his ground or shedding contact as well, no reacting nor showing the same spring on jumps. . It suggests to me that he may be getting tired from ever increasing minutes. Difficult for rooks to adjust and maintain play to physicality and pace of NBA . 22 games in with sixty or more to go, he's the main attraction and key to Knicks but hope Fischer and Jackson dont run him into ground and he hits the proverbial wall. Anyone else notice what I see? Kid could use a break in schedule
or maybe its hard to guard Dirk and to be in position when our guards are getting penetrated on.
He does not look tired out there at all.
You dont have to breathe heavy to be tired. Shows in D movements, he's been off.
you have to watch... KP played too much center last night. When that happens he either boxes out or helps, but physics keep him from doing both. He's best at the 4 with another big rim protector. Lopez/KP tandem is not broken.
Also the switching last night was stupid
fishmike wrote:you have to watch... KP played too much center last night. When that happens he either boxes out or helps, but physics keep him from doing both. He's best at the 4 with another big rim protector. Lopez/KP tandem is not broken.Also the switching last night was stupid
the way they were switching was definitely stupid.
meloanyk wrote:mreinman wrote:meloanyk wrote:I witnessed the offensive repertoire that led to 28 pts last night but KP has not looked the same on D the last two games. Not staying low and moving as well laterally. Not holding his ground or shedding contact as well, no reacting nor showing the same spring on jumps. . It suggests to me that he may be getting tired from ever increasing minutes. Difficult for rooks to adjust and maintain play to physicality and pace of NBA . 22 games in with sixty or more to go, he's the main attraction and key to Knicks but hope Fischer and Jackson dont run him into ground and he hits the proverbial wall. Anyone else notice what I see? Kid could use a break in schedule
or maybe its hard to guard Dirk and to be in position when our guards are getting penetrated on.
He does not look tired out there at all.
You dont have to breathe heavy to be tired. Shows in D movements, he's been off.
off does not mean tired. He is a kid and is gonna be off a lot especially on defense.
who wants to go fisChing? want some fisCh for dinner? phisCh is a band. if the 'c' doesn't go in any of those words, why do you put in in Derek FISHER's name?
meloanyk wrote:I witnessed the offensive repertoire that led to 28 pts last night but KP has not looked the same on D the last two games. Not staying low and moving as well laterally. Not holding his ground or shedding contact as well, no reacting nor showing the same spring on jumps. . It suggests to me that he may be getting tired from ever increasing minutes. Difficult for rooks to adjust and maintain play to physicality and pace of NBA . 22 games in with sixty or more to go, he's the main attraction and key to Knicks but hope Fischer and Jackson dont run him into ground and he hits the proverbial wall. Anyone else notice what I see? Kid could use a break in schedule
This should not be discounted, although most of the responses here are not addressing his potential fatigue.
I thought he looked listless in the Bucks game, and I think you could tell this from his outside shooting and the fact that he might have gotten some of the shots he did not block if his legs were fresh.
My big issue with KP on the defensive end is that he so intent on watching over and protecting the box, that he loses track of his man at times. If you are guarding a guy like Dirk, you simply can't lose sight of him or give him any space. There might be a fatigue factor in play here, but it also has to do his mentality...
KP seems to have the defensive mentality of a center...and when you are playing a good stretch 4 you are going to get burned if you don't make adjustments.
fishmike wrote:you have to watch... KP played too much center last night. When that happens he either boxes out or helps, but physics keep him from doing both. He's best at the 4 with another big rim protector. Lopez/KP tandem is not broken.Also the switching last night was stupid
KP is best at the 4 on defense.
KP is best at the 5 on offense.
blkexec wrote:fishmike wrote:you have to watch... KP played too much center last night. When that happens he either boxes out or helps, but physics keep him from doing both. He's best at the 4 with another big rim protector. Lopez/KP tandem is not broken.Also the switching last night was stupid
KP is best at the 4 on defense.
KP is best at the 5 on offense.
maybe he can tap in and out 
sorry, but the entire team did not look interested in playing Defense. Why just pick out KP?
From what I noticed last night, Mavs don't rebound, they get back on D on misses. KP just let the guards grab the boards since they were standing right there and they are the ones who bring the ball up anyway. Maybe he is just a smart player and not a stat stuffer. The switching looked like a new defensive strategy since everyone was doing it, which might explain why the entire team wasn't engaged on D. That kind of speculation is hard to qualify though unless you are in the practices. KP did not look tired
WaltLongmire wrote:meloanyk wrote:I witnessed the offensive repertoire that led to 28 pts last night but KP has not looked the same on D the last two games. Not staying low and moving as well laterally. Not holding his ground or shedding contact as well, no reacting nor showing the same spring on jumps. . It suggests to me that he may be getting tired from ever increasing minutes. Difficult for rooks to adjust and maintain play to physicality and pace of NBA . 22 games in with sixty or more to go, he's the main attraction and key to Knicks but hope Fischer and Jackson dont run him into ground and he hits the proverbial wall. Anyone else notice what I see? Kid could use a break in schedule
This should not be discounted, although most of the responses here are not addressing his potential fatigue.I thought he looked listless in the Bucks game, and I think you could tell this from his outside shooting and the fact that he might have gotten some of the shots he did not block if his legs were fresh.
My big issue with KP on the defensive end is that he so intent on watching over and protecting the box, that he loses track of his man at times. If you are guarding a guy like Dirk, you simply can't lose sight of him or give him any space. There might be a fatigue factor in play here, but it also has to do his mentality...
KP seems to have the defensive mentality of a center...and when you are playing a good stretch 4 you are going to get burned if you don't make adjustments.
He didn't have to guard dirk because they kept switching on the pNr and that's 85% of dallas game plan. Why you think they play 2 point guards all the time.
knicks1248 wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:meloanyk wrote:I witnessed the offensive repertoire that led to 28 pts last night but KP has not looked the same on D the last two games. Not staying low and moving as well laterally. Not holding his ground or shedding contact as well, no reacting nor showing the same spring on jumps. . It suggests to me that he may be getting tired from ever increasing minutes. Difficult for rooks to adjust and maintain play to physicality and pace of NBA . 22 games in with sixty or more to go, he's the main attraction and key to Knicks but hope Fischer and Jackson dont run him into ground and he hits the proverbial wall. Anyone else notice what I see? Kid could use a break in schedule
This should not be discounted, although most of the responses here are not addressing his potential fatigue.I thought he looked listless in the Bucks game, and I think you could tell this from his outside shooting and the fact that he might have gotten some of the shots he did not block if his legs were fresh.
My big issue with KP on the defensive end is that he so intent on watching over and protecting the box, that he loses track of his man at times. If you are guarding a guy like Dirk, you simply can't lose sight of him or give him any space. There might be a fatigue factor in play here, but it also has to do his mentality...
KP seems to have the defensive mentality of a center...and when you are playing a good stretch 4 you are going to get burned if you don't make adjustments.
He didn't have to guard dirk because they kept switching on the pNr and that's 85% of dallas game plan. Why you think they play 2 point guards all the time.
Dirk set the tone early in the game for them, and it was from the outside, and KP let him get away from him too many times. I'm pretty sure I posted this in the game thread.
I felt that the switching issue was more prominent later in the game.
WaltLongmire wrote:knicks1248 wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:meloanyk wrote:I witnessed the offensive repertoire that led to 28 pts last night but KP has not looked the same on D the last two games. Not staying low and moving as well laterally. Not holding his ground or shedding contact as well, no reacting nor showing the same spring on jumps. . It suggests to me that he may be getting tired from ever increasing minutes. Difficult for rooks to adjust and maintain play to physicality and pace of NBA . 22 games in with sixty or more to go, he's the main attraction and key to Knicks but hope Fischer and Jackson dont run him into ground and he hits the proverbial wall. Anyone else notice what I see? Kid could use a break in schedule
This should not be discounted, although most of the responses here are not addressing his potential fatigue.I thought he looked listless in the Bucks game, and I think you could tell this from his outside shooting and the fact that he might have gotten some of the shots he did not block if his legs were fresh.
My big issue with KP on the defensive end is that he so intent on watching over and protecting the box, that he loses track of his man at times. If you are guarding a guy like Dirk, you simply can't lose sight of him or give him any space. There might be a fatigue factor in play here, but it also has to do his mentality...
KP seems to have the defensive mentality of a center...and when you are playing a good stretch 4 you are going to get burned if you don't make adjustments.
He didn't have to guard dirk because they kept switching on the pNr and that's 85% of dallas game plan. Why you think they play 2 point guards all the time.
Dirk set the tone early in the game for them, and it was from the outside, and KP let him get away from him too many times. I'm pretty sure I posted this in the game thread.
I felt that the switching issue was more prominent later in the game.
This switching was mainly in the first half and they adjusted and stopped in the second half.
mreinman wrote:fishmike wrote:you have to watch... KP played too much center last night. When that happens he either boxes out or helps, but physics keep him from doing both. He's best at the 4 with another big rim protector. Lopez/KP tandem is not broken.Also the switching last night was stupid
the way they were switching was definitely stupid.
Melo was calling the switches. Melo still remembers the Woodson mantra.
