Knixkik wrote:Melo may not lift his game tremendously in the playoffs, but in 2013 when we had a team prepared to go deep into the playoffs, he was literally the only one who performed. Everyone but Melo forgot how to play basketball in those playoffs, and i will never forget that.
True. Must win game and showed he is elite.
Knixkik@ 12/16/2015 5:32 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Melo may not lift his game tremendously in the playoffs, but in 2013 when we had a team prepared to go deep into the playoffs, he was literally the only one who performed. Everyone but Melo forgot how to play basketball in those playoffs, and i will never forget that.
True. Must win game and showed he is elite.
Yeah its just amazing, everyone is so quick to point out stats and such that show his under performance, and they forget to watch games and see these types of things. I credit him for the one playoff series win and leading a competitive, but unsuccessful run against indiana, because he was pretty much on his own out there. I really felt bad for him.
mreinman@ 12/16/2015 5:49 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Melo may not lift his game tremendously in the playoffs, but in 2013 when we had a team prepared to go deep into the playoffs, he was literally the only one who performed. Everyone but Melo forgot how to play basketball in those playoffs, and i will never forget that.
True. Must win game and showed he is elite.
nobody shows they are elite in one game. His overall playoff performance shows that he is nowhere near elite in postseason.
crzymdups@ 12/16/2015 6:04 PM
mreinman wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Melo may not lift his game tremendously in the playoffs, but in 2013 when we had a team prepared to go deep into the playoffs, he was literally the only one who performed. Everyone but Melo forgot how to play basketball in those playoffs, and i will never forget that.
True. Must win game and showed he is elite.
nobody shows they are elite in one game. His overall playoff performance shows that he is nowhere near elite in postseason.
crzymdups@ 12/16/2015 6:06 PM
mreinman wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Melo may not lift his game tremendously in the playoffs, but in 2013 when we had a team prepared to go deep into the playoffs, he was literally the only one who performed. Everyone but Melo forgot how to play basketball in those playoffs, and i will never forget that.
True. Must win game and showed he is elite.
nobody shows they are elite in one game. His overall playoff performance shows that he is nowhere near elite in postseason.
LivingLegend@ 12/16/2015 6:11 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:Judging by what I have seen the last two games, I believe Carmelo has finally found his stride. The (warranted) criticism he has gotten; specifically from Barkley has awaken a beast out of this dude. His legs looked very strong in the Portland game, Which enabled him to finish most of the plays he was having problems with early on. I pray that he can continue to push through, because this dude is a very valuable piece for the entire league. I believe we will soon see the consistent 28 and 10 player.
Can you list his shooting #s the past few games -- just want to get a sense of how you are judging his return.
I know we have 2 shitty teams we play next 2 nights so Melo should feast - as per normal against the bottom feeders. I'm hoping he can play well against 2 good teams like Bulls/Magic after the 2 patsies.
Knicks1969@ 12/16/2015 10:26 PM
The dude flat out balled to night. He is finishing a lot of the early shots he was missing, and he ran the show as well as I have ever seen him do. This Carmelo is a superstar.
On a side note, fisher did a decent job with the rotation tonight. KO and Williams were very active and they were blessed with minutes once again tonight; thank God for that
crzymdups@ 12/16/2015 10:37 PM
Melo's last five games:
22pts 9rebs 5ast
his shot isn't there, but his defense and passing are very good.
Knicks1969@ 12/16/2015 10:45 PM
crzymdups wrote:Melo's last five games:
22pts 9rebs 5ast
his shot isn't there, but his defense and passing are very good.
I am pleasantly surprised with this Carmelo. The knock on him has always been that he was selfish, don't commit on defense, and is not a leader; I believe he is destroying all of that notion this season. This is our leader folks; he are to be praised for his effort
crzymdups@ 12/16/2015 11:06 PM
Typical selfish Melo... sigh.
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Is this Carmelo playing more like Paul Pierce or Lamar Odoms but much more aggressive on offense? I have never seen Pierce in the triangle, so I can't see the comparison other then the penchant for scoring the ball.
crzymdups@ 12/16/2015 11:09 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:Is this Carmelo playing more like Paul Pierce or Lamar Odoms but much more aggressive on offense? I have never seen Pierce in the triangle, so I can't see the comparison other then the penchant for scoring the ball.
When I say "Paul Pierce"-like play - what I mean is when Pierce went from being a 25ppg scorer to being a 20ppg scorer who passed and moved the ball more when the Celtics brought in Ray Allen and KG.
He sacrificed something off his scoring average to play more of a team game.
Knicks1969@ 12/16/2015 11:12 PM
crzymdups wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Is this Carmelo playing more like Paul Pierce or Lamar Odoms but much more aggressive on offense? I have never seen Pierce in the triangle, so I can't see the comparison other then the penchant for scoring the ball.
When I say "Paul Pierce"-like play - what I mean is when Pierce went from being a 25ppg scorer to being a 20ppg scorer who passed and moved the ball more when the Celtics brought in Ray Allen and KG.
He sacrificed something off his scoring average to play more of a team game.
Respect....
JoeyBagadonuts@ 12/17/2015 12:07 AM
crzymdups wrote:Typical selfish Melo... sigh.
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That was sarcasm. Those two are good friends, and enjoy playing with one another
mreinman@ 12/17/2015 11:43 AM
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Melo may not lift his game tremendously in the playoffs, but in 2013 when we had a team prepared to go deep into the playoffs, he was literally the only one who performed. Everyone but Melo forgot how to play basketball in those playoffs, and i will never forget that.
True. Must win game and showed he is elite.
nobody shows they are elite in one game. His overall playoff performance shows that he is nowhere near elite in postseason.
if fairness reporting, will you also post all the really sh1tty games or do you not want to clutter the crap out of these threads?
crzymdups@ 12/17/2015 11:48 AM
mreinman wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Melo may not lift his game tremendously in the playoffs, but in 2013 when we had a team prepared to go deep into the playoffs, he was literally the only one who performed. Everyone but Melo forgot how to play basketball in those playoffs, and i will never forget that.
True. Must win game and showed he is elite.
nobody shows they are elite in one game. His overall playoff performance shows that he is nowhere near elite in postseason.
if fairness reporting, will you also post all the really sh1tty games or do you not want to clutter the crap out of these threads?
He's had some bad playoffs games - he's had some great ones. Most guys have a mix.
I was responding to the idea that Melo has had one great playoffs performance. He's had many. He's had some bad ones, but that's often because he's the lone offensive threat on his team and the defense can load up on him. And those opponents have been very very good. Four times he's lost in the first round to the eventual NBA Champ. Playing against the NBA champions in the first round on an inferior team is going to make your efficiency stats look like crap.
jrodmc@ 12/17/2015 11:55 AM
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Melo may not lift his game tremendously in the playoffs, but in 2013 when we had a team prepared to go deep into the playoffs, he was literally the only one who performed. Everyone but Melo forgot how to play basketball in those playoffs, and i will never forget that.
True. Must win game and showed he is elite.
nobody shows they are elite in one game. His overall playoff performance shows that he is nowhere near elite in postseason.
if fairness reporting, will you also post all the really sh1tty games or do you not want to clutter the crap out of these threads?
He's had some bad playoffs games - he's had some great ones. Most guys have a mix.
I was responding to the idea that Melo has had one great playoffs performance. He's had many. He's had some bad ones, but that's often because he's the lone offensive threat on his team and the defense can load up on him. And those opponents have been very very good. Four times he's lost in the first round to the eventual NBA Champ. Playing against the NBA champions in the first round on an inferior team is going to make your efficiency stats look like crap.
But Me70's great playoff performances only count as half a performance. His bad ones count twice. Simple math.
jrodmc@ 12/17/2015 11:56 AM
crzymdups wrote:Typical selfish Melo... sigh.
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This really needs it's own thread. Even his sarcasm is so self-centered and brand-conscious.
jrodmc@ 12/17/2015 12:07 PM
crzymdups wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Is this Carmelo playing more like Paul Pierce or Lamar Odoms but much more aggressive on offense? I have never seen Pierce in the triangle, so I can't see the comparison other then the penchant for scoring the ball.
When I say "Paul Pierce"-like play - what I mean is when Pierce went from being a 25ppg scorer to being a 20ppg scorer who passed and moved the ball more when the Celtics brought in Ray Allen and KG.
He sacrificed something off his scoring average to play more of a team game.
Imagine that happening, when you actually have talent on your team?
I have never understood the PP jock riding. What exactly did PP accomplish without KG/Ray Allen/Rondo that Melo didn't in Denver? I mean besides the Celts not even making the playoffs 5 out of 9 seasons?
Knicks1969@ 12/17/2015 12:55 PM
I never liked PP's game until after Garnett's arrival. I always thought he was arrogant and trigger happy. When Garnett and Allen arrived,PP changed his total approach and became a better all around BB player.
I don't think any of us ever looked at Carmelo as an arrogant BB player. In fact, my biggest criticism of him always been the fact that he was too passive and never played with the fire of a Jordan/Kobe/lebron/Wade. I often placed him in the same tier as Vince Carter and MacGrady.
The 2015 Carmelo is showing that he has finally gotten the message. He is getting his teammates involved, he is defending, rebounding, and most of all, he is leading this young core of players. It was a blessing that Phil traded JR whose "childish/unprofessional" personality I believe hindered Carmelo's growth as a leader. He is now surrounded with all around talents, and I hope that he finds the strength to bring it every night, because this dude is too good of a talent to not get the glory that he deserves
