Knicks · Afflalo is not a good player and certainly not starting caliber (page 2)

crzymdups @ 12/28/2015 12:42 PM
Knixkik wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Unfortunately you can't just click your fingers and have fantastic players at every position instantly. Afflalo was a step forward, if we sign Batum this offseason, Afflalo becomes the sixth man, which is ultimately where I see him on a good team. Rebuilding a team is a slow process- you develop young players, you add some solid mediocre vets, that helps you take a step forward, which we have done.

This is too sane and reasonable a perspective for this forum. Go away, please . . .

yes, exactly right.

+1

mreinman @ 12/28/2015 12:45 PM
great! at least now we all agree that he is not a starting caliber player.
blkexec @ 12/28/2015 12:52 PM
mreinman wrote:great! at least now we all agree that he is not a starting caliber player.

I actually thought he could be....and I'm sure theres a team out there where he fits as the starting SG.

But for this teams development, especially for KP, the last thing we need is another ball stopper. Plus if you look at his lift, you can see old age is creeping in. He looks like me out there a few days ago, and I'm over 40.....His starting window was probably back when he was in his prime......But age and injuries took over.

This team can only operate with 1 ball stopper, unless that person is a future HOF'er or NBA superstar thats efficient with the ball.

I have nothing but respect for AA.....he came here because he wanted to, not because of the money......Which is part of the reason why he's getting so much love from Phil and Fisher.

mreinman @ 12/28/2015 12:54 PM
blkexec wrote:
mreinman wrote:great! at least now we all agree that he is not a starting caliber player.

I actually thought he could be....and I'm sure theres a team out there where he fits as the starting SG.

But for this teams development, especially for KP, the last thing we need is another ball stopper. Plus if you look at his lift, you can see old age is creeping in. He looks like me out there a few days ago, and I'm over 40.....His starting window was probably back when he was in his prime......But age and injuries took over.

This team can only operate with 1 ball stopper, unless that person is a future HOF'er or NBA superstar thats efficient with the ball.

I have nothing but respect for AA.....he came here because he wanted to, not because of the money......Which is part of the reason why he's getting so much love from Phil and Fisher.

I really did not expect more than what he has done his whole career. He is playing this year exactly how he has played his whole career. Below average.

blkexec @ 12/28/2015 1:15 PM
mreinman wrote:
blkexec wrote:
mreinman wrote:great! at least now we all agree that he is not a starting caliber player.

I actually thought he could be....and I'm sure theres a team out there where he fits as the starting SG.

But for this teams development, especially for KP, the last thing we need is another ball stopper. Plus if you look at his lift, you can see old age is creeping in. He looks like me out there a few days ago, and I'm over 40.....His starting window was probably back when he was in his prime......But age and injuries took over.

This team can only operate with 1 ball stopper, unless that person is a future HOF'er or NBA superstar thats efficient with the ball.

I have nothing but respect for AA.....he came here because he wanted to, not because of the money......Which is part of the reason why he's getting so much love from Phil and Fisher.

I really did not expect more than what he has done his whole career. He is playing this year exactly how he has played his whole career. Below average.

I agree....but there are some player that play above their average, when given a starter role and more minutes. I think Afflalo was that type of player, but it's probably a few years past his prime / window.

meloanyk @ 12/28/2015 3:22 PM
smackeddog wrote:Unfortunately you can't just click your fingers and have fantastic players at every position instantly. Afflalo was a step forward, if we sign Batum this offseason, Afflalo becomes the sixth man, which is ultimately where I see him on a good team. Rebuilding a team is a slow process- you develop young players, you add some solid mediocre vets, that helps you take a step forward, which we have done.

Exactly. Thank you for putting his sign in context rather than regurgitating some espn scouting report. Worthwhile sign at good terms and length. He still has some game left, was brought in as complementary scorer which he has done. Competes on both ends and brought some good character along as well. Hopefully a Batum can be sined and he can lead the second unit. AA been the least of our worries

Knixkik @ 12/28/2015 3:25 PM
mreinman wrote:great! at least now we all agree that he is not a starting caliber player.

He's a starting caliber player, and he's a good player too. But he's not your answer to SG where you aren't looking for an upgrade if it's there. He's been a leading scorer on a bad team, and a quality starter on average to good teams. I think he is more of a 6th man for a great team.

mreinman @ 12/28/2015 4:34 PM
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:great! at least now we all agree that he is not a starting caliber player.

He's a starting caliber player, and he's a good player too. But he's not your answer to SG where you aren't looking for an upgrade if it's there. He's been a leading scorer on a bad team, and a quality starter on average to good teams. I think he is more of a 6th man for a great team.

I disagree. Points are not everything.

stopstandthere @ 12/28/2015 7:42 PM
smackeddog wrote:Unfortunately you can't just click your fingers and have fantastic players at every position instantly. Afflalo was a step forward, if we sign Batum this offseason, Afflalo becomes the sixth man, which is ultimately where I see him on a good team. Rebuilding a team is a slow process- you develop young players, you add some solid mediocre vets, that helps you take a step forward, which we have done.

This. That's what the team needs currently.

Jmpasq @ 12/29/2015 11:28 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
mreinman wrote:complete disaster tonight. He is exactly what the advanced stats said he was. Mediocre.

Yeah, he's a slightly below average player.

Its not like his contract is that bad or long term. Unfortunately we have no draft picks this year, and no one wants to sign here

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