The Triangle and the offense NY runs is GREAT for Porzingis. Phil knows the talent he wants in his system. There's no question about that. Get a star #1 player who can handle the ball in S/R as well and Porzingis will be lethal. The Knicks lack of fortune is that both their top 3 guys on O are all scorers/shooters in Melo/KP/Afflalo. They can't run S/R with one another. If you take for instance Phil's team in LA with Kobe/Pau, imagine if Melo could run S/R with Porzingis the way a prime Kobe would. That's what we need now. A star player or ballhandler who can run S/R on top of what we already do. Factor that Porzingis should get a little better with time with his shot, I think this team can have a bright future so long as they can add that ballhandling top 3 player with what they already have.
teamsport72 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:I mangled the reference so you get one last chance. "The weather started getting rough, The tiny ship was tossed,"
Now this is the tale of the castaways,
they're here for a long, long time.
They'll have to make the best of things,
it's an uphill climb.
The first mate and his skipper too,
will do their very best,
to make the others comfortable,
in their tropic island nest.
No phones, no lights, no motor cars,
not a single luxury;
like Robinson Crusoe,
it's primitive as can be.
So join us here each week my friends,
you're sure to get a smile,
from seven stranded Castaways,
here on Gilligan's Isle.
You win a radio made out of coconuts!
nyknickzingis wrote:The Triangle and the offense NY runs is GREAT for Porzingis. Phil knows the talent he wants in his system. There's no question about that. Get a star #1 player who can handle the ball in S/R as well and Porzingis will be lethal. The Knicks lack of fortune is that both their top 3 guys on O are all scorers/shooters in Melo/KP/Afflalo. They can't run S/R with one another. If you take for instance Phil's team in LA with Kobe/Pau, imagine if Melo could run S/R with Porzingis the way a prime Kobe would. That's what we need now. A star player or ballhandler who can run S/R on top of what we already do. Factor that Porzingis should get a little better with time with his shot, I think this team can have a bright future so long as they can add that ballhandling top 3 player with what they already have.
Don't ever try to run plays for Porzingis so he cannot get his feet set for a shot, make him scoop up all the crap and shoot off-balance shots with clock expiring. Way to go.
GustavBahler wrote:teamsport72 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:I mangled the reference so you get one last chance. "The weather started getting rough, The tiny ship was tossed,"
Now this is the tale of the castaways,
they're here for a long, long time.
They'll have to make the best of things,
it's an uphill climb.
The first mate and his skipper too,
will do their very best,
to make the others comfortable,
in their tropic island nest.
No phones, no lights, no motor cars,
not a single luxury;
like Robinson Crusoe,
it's primitive as can be.
So join us here each week my friends,
you're sure to get a smile,
from seven stranded Castaways,
here on Gilligan's Isle.
You win a radio made out of coconuts!
Thank you, sir.
I want tibs like jvg he is a lot like Riley... He puts his players in there hot zones and gets pissed if they go away from them
fitzfarm wrote:I want tibs like jvg he is a lot like Riley... He puts his players in there hot zones and gets pissed if they go away from them
You really think Phil will hire a JVG disciple? To run anything other than the Triangle?
I don't see it.
teamsport72 wrote:They told us KP was 3years away from contributing. Turns out, Fisher is 3 or more years away from becoming a coach.Which makes me think this is not so much about building another dynasty for PJax, as about safely collecting his 60M. He hired a 200% loyal coach who will go first if things turn real bad, and also who will never cross Melo because he is is still a player in his mind, and just doesn't have the status Melo has.
Does not look good at all, definitely not good for KP. KP needs Pops or someone of that caliber.
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crzymdups wrote:It's about proving the Triangle works. That's what it has always been about in terms of what Phil wants to prove in New York imho. I think he thought Fisher would be better. I also think he thought last year's team would compete for the eighth seed and they'd be able to add a piece or two in FA and be a top four team this season.
I think Phil has overestimated the Triangle and maybe Fisher as a coach. But mainly I think this is about Phil needing to prove that all those rings were him and the Triangle and not just Michael, Scottie, Kobe, Shaq and Pau.
Tell me something......do some of you just forget that we're in the beginning stages of a rebuild and that this isn't the finished product that Phil plans on being the team he wants?? How the hellz was Fisher supposed to win with that team he had last year?? Do you remember that team?? I'm not trying to say Fisher is doing great cause i'm slowly losing confidence in him but i do understand that we don't have a great team right now and i do understand that most of these guys are trying to learn this offense which has proven to be a tougher offense than most think for these guys to get. We still have a ways to go guys so you better get some patience but i have 100% trust that in two years Phil will have a team that's ready to contend to not only make the playoffs but to make them as a top 4/5 seed and to make a run in the playoffs.
newyorker4ever wrote:crzymdups wrote:It's about proving the Triangle works. That's what it has always been about in terms of what Phil wants to prove in New York imho. I think he thought Fisher would be better. I also think he thought last year's team would compete for the eighth seed and they'd be able to add a piece or two in FA and be a top four team this season.
I think Phil has overestimated the Triangle and maybe Fisher as a coach. But mainly I think this is about Phil needing to prove that all those rings were him and the Triangle and not just Michael, Scottie, Kobe, Shaq and Pau.
Tell me something......do some of you just forget that we're in the beginning stages of a rebuild and that this isn't the finished product that Phil plans on being the team he wants?? How the hellz was Fisher supposed to win with that team he had last year?? Do you remember that team?? I'm not trying to say Fisher is doing great cause i'm slowly losing confidence in him but i do understand that we don't have a great team right now and i do understand that most of these guys are trying to learn this offense which has proven to be a tougher offense than most think for these guys to get. We still have a ways to go guys so you better get some patience but i have 100% trust that in two years Phil will have a team that's ready to contend to not only make the playoffs but to make them as a top 4/5 seed and to make a run in the playoffs.
Even if the Knicks were 30-2 right now, I would say that the reason Phil Jackson came to New York was to prove the Triangle worked. That's the reason he came, in my opinion.
How successful he is with that plan remains to be seen.
I didn't say fire anyone or get rid of anything, just giving my opinion of why Phil came here. He was also directly quoted as saying he thought the Knicks would make the playoffs at the beginning of last season.
This is what I expect: Phil will stay through his deal and make some other gradual adjustments that will eventually make this team a slightly better than .500 club that gets to playoffs as a low seed for last few years. Derek and the triangle will be here for that duration and we will be continually frustrated by our slow progress and pretender status. I believe that Phil and Fischers contracts are concurrent and will end in 18-19 season. Only then , will a new coach be named and the triangle O junked
