Knicks · Thank God for a roster minus: Amare, JR, and Shump (page 2)

foosballnick wrote:Where's FireWoodson to tell us how great all the ex Knicks are.doing? Seriously, all in all, PJ has done a good job so far in revamping the roster, adding youth and energy and getting guys to buy in to team ball.

Phil is a master at motivating guys. It was not a coincidence why he stayed silent all throughout the season and right after the Utah debacle, Rosen released an article about fisher and the Knicks are not up to speed on offense.

http://nypost.com/2015/12/29/some-knicks...

Nalod wrote:"Thank God for a roster minus: Amare, JR, and Shump"

Don't thank God, Thank Phil!!!!
Soon you'll have to man up, suck it and thank Fish too!!!!!

A man creates his own luck.

I hope you remember Why I criticise Fisher

nyknickzingis wrote:If you look back at all the criticism Phil got for trading Chandler even, it all had a purpose. He knew Tyson's defensive impact but wanted a guy in Calderon who would help team chemistry and improve ball movement. He wanted to sign a younger Center to a contract as Tyson would be getting another massive contract within a year. You look at Tyson Chandler right now in Pheonix, does anyone want that guy in New York making as much as he is? RLopez + Calderon > Tyson. And if we keep Tyson we likely win more games last year and don't get ourselves in position to draft someone like Porzingis.

Then you look at the Jr Smith and Shump deal to the Cavs, it brought us Lance Thomas and it opened up more capspace. Galloway got more playing time and has become a decent investment.

Even the Hardaway deal for a young draft pick in Grant - something to balance the roster and give potential for the future.

We've gone from being an old, declining, no defense, me first selfish playing team that was missing the playoffs (when Phil got the team in summer 2014 that's what we were) into a younger, improving, defending, sharing team that's playing .500 ball with potential to keep improving through improvement of younger players like Porzingis, Williams, Thomas, Galloway and Grant. And somehow along the way we've got Melo to buy in to playing team ball while he has NO all-star teammates (Porzingis is close, but not there yet). Melo wasn't playing team ball like this when he had great teammates in Denver or early days in NY. Yet he is now with lesser talent than those situations.

Truly remarkable what's going on in NY. All while the most important aspect of improving outside of Porzingis improvement as a player is that Phil has lined up capspace in 2016 and 2017. We're in position to pursue some top quality all-star free agents, or keep signing quality proven veteran support players. There can still be massive improvement with free agent additions, and Porzingis (Grant, DWill, Thomas, Galloway as well) improving in the next 1-2 years.

He won't win it, but he should be in line for executive of the year for the job he's done. He's completely re-structured NY Knicks basketball into something cohesive and that looks respectable.

Now, because the Aldridge gamble didn’t pay off, the young Suns squad is stuck with a 33-year-old Chandler on a four-year contract worth $52 million.

This wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing if Chandler was contributing at a high level, but he has struggled mightily early in his stint with the Suns. As of this writing, Chandler is averaging 5.4 points, 7.1 rebounds and .6 blocks – the worst stat line of his 15-year NBA career.

While hindsight is 20/20, it’s not like this is a huge surprise given Chandler’s age and the fact that he has always played his best basketball in contract years and then come back down to earth shortly after.

The fit is also strange, since Phoenix is still trying to develop Alex Len into their center of the future. Because of this, Chandler has come off of the bench for a number of games and he’s playing just 22 minutes per game.

In other words, Chandler hasn’t been the big offseason acquisition that Phoenix hoped they were landing. If anything, he has been a shell of his former self and is drastically overpaid since he’s making $13,000,000 this season.

Rather than taking Phoenix to the next level in the Western Conference, the team has struggled mightily. They are currently 13-26 (worse than last year), which puts them in 12th place in the Western Conference. After entering the year with playoff expectations, now it seems Phoenix’s best strategy may be trading off their veterans and taking a step back in their rebuilding plan.

There’s no question that Chandler has been a disappointment on the court and the fact that he’s owed so much money for three more seasons after this one makes him, in my opinion, one of the worst free agent signings of the summer.

– Alex Kennedy

Knicks1969 wrote:

Nalod wrote:"Thank God for a roster minus: Amare, JR, and Shump"

Don't thank God, Thank Phil!!!!
Soon you'll have to man up, suck it and thank Fish too!!!!!

A man creates his own luck.

Rest assured that I will once I see consistent improvement. I ain't to proud to apologize if I am wrong. Are you???

I hope you remember Why I criticise Fisher

Cuz your consistent.

Nalod wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

Nalod wrote:"Thank God for a roster minus: Amare, JR, and Shump"

Don't thank God, Thank Phil!!!!
Soon you'll have to man up, suck it and thank Fish too!!!!!

A man creates his own luck.

Rest assured that I will once I see consistent improvement. I ain't to proud to apologize if I am wrong. Are you???

I hope you remember Why I criticise Fisher

Cuz your consistent.

I am very consistent. Can't you that once he settled on a 9 to 10 men rotation I backed off from criticizing him????

SupremeCommander wrote:

wargames wrote:I still hold a soft spot for A'mare. Injuries did him in as much as everything else. He was a professional in NY and always seems like a hard worker overall (for example he was asked to learn to be a better post player so he went and became a better post player).

JR came here a problem and I still think he influenced Shump enough that eventually shump became a knucklehead too.

the fire extinguisher undid his few accomplishments here in my opinion

It was a frustrating year for him. Melo was not moving the ball at the time. It was full Woodson ISO mode. Tyson and Shumpert also started expressing frustration with the offense at the time.

Here's the article from Ian Begley incase people forgot what the landscape was like at the time. It was the reason the Knicks keyed in on Signing Jason Kidd the following year and we played great team ball to start the year going 18-6 until Felton tried to win a one on one battle with Lin and got schooled. And was schooled by Lin again later in the year.

Amare Stoudemire injures hand
May 1, 2012
Ian Begley

MIAMI -- A frustrated Amare Stoudemire punched a glass casing surrounding a fire extinguisher minutes after the New York Knicks' loss to the Miami Heat, according to a team source. The Knicks power forward suffered lacerations on his left hand which required stitches.

A league source told ESPNNewYork.com that Stoudemire is "almost certain" to miss Game 3 on Thursday in New York and there is a possibility that Stoudemire could miss the rest of the series.

Stoudemire was treated by paramedics and team doctors from both the Knicks and the Heat and was seen leaving the arena with his left forearm and hand heavily bandaged and his arm being supported by a sling. He suffered the laceration on the inside of his palm, on the side of his hand closest to the pinkie.

A source with knowledge of Stoudemire's injury says there is no ligament or tendon damage in the hand.

He punched the glass casing after walking off of the court following the Knicks' 104-94 loss to the Heat.

Ian Begley-ESPN
"He was just frustrated," a league source with knowledge of the incident said.

Stoudemire's frustration may have stemmed from his shot attempts -- nine -- in Monday's game, according to the source. He scored 18 points and had seven rebounds------

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/...

This is why MDA was fired/"Resigned" and ISO Woodson took over to appease Melo which he did but it alienated the rest of the team and there was extreme tension between Woodson/Melo & the rest of the team the entire time they were here until Phil cleaned up the mess