fishmike wrote:Finestrg wrote:God, is he arrogant. WOW.Any success he's earned as a coach, he owes to MJ/Pippen, then Kobe/Shaq. Those all-world players were driving forces that yielded the championships, not him. And then to be so arrogant with his book (ripping people in his book like Kobe), flaunting his rings, now quoting his own book.. Gimmie a break.. LMAO.
before Phil those guys didnt win anything. Only guy in that group to win without Phil was Shaq with his one Miami ring. It wasnt like Phil was the only ones who coached those guys. Like it or not every situation Phil goes to gets much better and much worse when he leaves.
And Shaq's Miami coach was another Mount Rushmore coach...Riley.
smackeddog wrote:Rookie wrote:smackeddog wrote:Malcolm wrote:Malcolm wrote:(LOL) This is great (!)This really puts it to those people who still think Knick basketball is primarily about . . . basketball.
We got TRIANGLE CULTURE in NYC now.
"In Phil We Trust".
LOL . . . LOL . . . LOL (!)
Come on everyone . . . admit it.Don't you just LOVE it when the President of basketball operations quotes Rogers and Maslow (?) 
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I'm a psychotherapist trained in the Rogerian approach, so this tweet made me chuckle. It basically has a positive view of people, that no matter what shitty circumstances they're in or have grown up in, part of them is always trying to be survive the best that they can, even if that comes out in distorted and destructive ways. Rogers used the metaphor of a potato- even if its kept in the dark in a crappy environment, it will grow long sprouts that are still trying to reach the light. Your body and brain are always looking out for you, even if it doesn't seem that way at the time. It's about learning to trust and value yourself and your gut feelings, rather than be who you think other people think you should be.
sorry...couldn't help myself
Ha ha!
Our coaching search is over!!!
WaltLongmire wrote:fishmike wrote:Finestrg wrote:God, is he arrogant. WOW.Any success he's earned as a coach, he owes to MJ/Pippen, then Kobe/Shaq. Those all-world players were driving forces that yielded the championships, not him. And then to be so arrogant with his book (ripping people in his book like Kobe), flaunting his rings, now quoting his own book.. Gimmie a break.. LMAO.
before Phil those guys didnt win anything. Only guy in that group to win without Phil was Shaq with his one Miami ring. It wasnt like Phil was the only ones who coached those guys. Like it or not every situation Phil goes to gets much better and much worse when he leaves.
And Shaq's Miami coach was another Mount Rushmore coach...Riley.
Also people forget that Riley mentored Spoelstra, who looked lost as well. Phil was trying to duplicate that but it just didn't work out. Now Rambis gets a crack and if he can't prove he deserves the job we can move on this summer. I still think it's best when you have a real basketball man at the top like a Riley, Colangelo, West or Phil.
Malcolm wrote:smackeddog wrote:[I'm a psychotherapist trained in the Rogerian approach, so this tweet made me chuckle. It basically has a positive view of people, that no matter what shitty circumstances they're in or have grown up in, part of them is always trying to be survive the best that they can, even if that comes out in distorted and destructive ways. Rogers used the metaphor of a potato- even if its kept in the dark in a crappy environment, it will grow long sprouts that are still trying to reach the light. Your body and brain are always looking out for you, even if it doesn't seem that way at the time. It's about learning to trust and value yourself and your gut feelings, rather than be who you think other people think you should be.
The psychology of your average NBA player is much more than I personally can imagine having to deal with.Sheeesh.
So I greatly admire Phil Jackson for being willing to try to do it . . . against the considerable odds.
People are as good and as bad as conditions they are put in.
Put them in corrupt environment and they most likely will get corrupt.
Put them in the environment which promotes honesty and humanity and they will most likely excel.
Phil job is to create the environment for winning.
Will it result in winning... and how far the winning will go? Who knows.
This is not the point.
I do not value the business or any human activity which put winning (profit, personal success) above all.
To me it is not a success but failure regardless of how much fame, money and hype it produced.
Non of this can be taken to forever after and non of this can be shared with the world. Fools gold.
Those of you seemingly mocking Pjax, would you rather have Dolan back running the show?
Im happy that Phil is enriching the lives of his employees, creating a nurturing and welcoming environment for those who wish to learn Phil's offense and his worldview. Problem is that the coaches who have passed through Phil's door over the years have done very little, if anything to enrich the win column of the teams they've coached. In the end, thats the only enrichment I really care about as a Knicks fan. Until I see some concrete results from a team he hasnt coached, its just snake oil.
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Those of you seemingly mocking Pjax, would you rather have Dolan back running the show?
A lot of people will like it.
Jimmy is simple Dude. Real NYorker.
Hi plays guitar, defeated addiction, made a lot of money, and has cool friends like Isiah Tomas.
Hi is jut... Cool.
Phil might be pretentious at times, but he is right.
Does anyone doubt that Kerr has instilled a We over Me attitude in GS, or that Pops has done the same thing with the Spurs? Same is true for Riley.
Phil's philosophy goes against the individualism and concern with branding that we see from so many professional athletes, the kind of selfishness which allows someone to celebrate a score or good play in a game even though their team is losing big and the game is almost over.
Hopefully he hangs around and is able to prove his philosophy is the right one.
I got contact high just reading that. Awesome stuff
WaltLongmire wrote:Phil might be pretentious at times, but he is right.Does anyone doubt that Kerr has instilled a We over Me attitude in GS, or that Pops has done the same thing with the Spurs? Same is true for Riley.
Phil's philosophy goes against the individualism and concern with branding that we see from so many professional athletes, the kind of selfishness which allows someone to celebrate a score or good play in a game even though their team is losing big and the game is almost over.
Hopefully he hangs around and is able to prove his philosophy is the right one.
He will only hang around if we fans will support him.
I do not see this happening.
Most of the fans want start power and drama not boring work to create the perennial contender.
fishmike wrote:Finestrg wrote:God, is he arrogant. WOW.Any success he's earned as a coach, he owes to MJ/Pippen, then Kobe/Shaq. Those all-world players were driving forces that yielded the championships, not him. And then to be so arrogant with his book (ripping people in his book like Kobe), flaunting his rings, now quoting his own book.. Gimmie a break.. LMAO.
before Phil those guys didnt win anything. Only guy in that group to win without Phil was Shaq with his one Miami ring. It wasnt like Phil was the only ones who coached those guys. Like it or not every situation Phil goes to gets much better and much worse when he leaves.
and he won when there was so damn good competition. those bulls rings came through a pretty tough east, with a pretty good knicks team. He took Collins team to another level, and FWIW almost won (at least the east) without MJ but for Hubert Davis!
Chandler wrote:nixluva wrote:I'm not put off by Phil's intellectual way of explaining his views. Some media and fans may not understand what he's getting at but it's not impossible to grasp, if you get past the $100.00 words. He's trying to create an environment of selflessness and team play from the D League, NBA team to the Front Office. The chain can't be broken at any point or it won't work. It's not just about the Triangle Offense. The Triangle Offense is a means to an end but not the ONLY way to achieve what he wants. It is the way he knows best so of course he's gonna be using it right now. It's not the end all be all.
If Phil feels Thibs shares his views on team play, I can see him having no problem with Thibs even if he's not wedded to the Triangle Offense. They would have to have that deep conversation to see if Thibs has the right mentality for what Phil believes is needed. For right now Rambis has first crack at it.
this^
Maybe go the way of the NFL, with Thibs being the head coach and defensive guru, with another assistant or associate coach having more control over the offense.
Finestrg wrote:God, is he arrogant. WOW.Any success he's earned as a coach, he owes to MJ/Pippen, then Kobe/Shaq. Those all-world players were driving forces that yielded the championships, not him. And then to be so arrogant with his book (ripping people in his book like Kobe), flaunting his rings, now quoting his own book.. Gimmie a break.. LMAO.
What did the players you mentioned win without Phil????? I idolize those players. Please explain
