http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/147839...Howard is 30, declining and about to enter free agency as the cap spikes to around $92 million -- the new estimate lots of teams are using after the league initially projected an $89 million ceiling for next season.
So I think that means the Knicks will have more like $21M in cap space even if DWill and AAA opt in.
what this basically means is that this summer (and the next), the knicks will be competing with other teams that ALSO have money. in those situations, the knicks CANT compete - high nyc taxes, dolan, weather etc. However, if we SAVE our money until 2018 when the cap stops rising, then the knicks will be one of the few teams WITH money to spend
callmened wrote:what this basically means is that this summer (and the next), the knicks will be competing with other teams that ALSO have money. in those situations, the knicks CANT compete - high nyc taxes, dolan, weather etc. However, if we SAVE our money until 2018 when the cap stops rising, then the knicks will be one of the few teams WITH money to spend
Knicks have one of the rising young stars of the league, which is attractive. I think most NBA players want a situation where they can win and look good doing it.
I worry the Triangle is a bigger detractor than any of the factors you mentioned.
But, yes, almost every team will have cap room this summer, which means almost every FA will be wildly overpaid.
crzymdups wrote:callmened wrote:what this basically means is that this summer (and the next), the knicks will be competing with other teams that ALSO have money. in those situations, the knicks CANT compete - high nyc taxes, dolan, weather etc. However, if we SAVE our money until 2018 when the cap stops rising, then the knicks will be one of the few teams WITH money to spend
Knicks have one of the rising young stars of the league, which is attractive. I think most NBA players want a situation where they can win and look good doing it.
I worry the Triangle is a bigger detractor than any of the factors you mentioned.
But, yes, almost every team will have cap room this summer, which means almost every FA will be wildly overpaid.
yeah you make a great point as well. this fascination with the Triangle Religion turns FAs off
That same article projected 108M cap the following year
Rookie wrote:That same article projected 108M cap the following year
Yeah, that's been the projection for a while. But $92M is higher than we've ever heard for this coming summer.
Here's what a five year Lebron contract would look like if he signs this summer. If he signs another one year deal and does a five year deal next summer his year 1 salary could be over $35M with a 109M cap.
callmened wrote:crzymdups wrote:callmened wrote:what this basically means is that this summer (and the next), the knicks will be competing with other teams that ALSO have money. in those situations, the knicks CANT compete - high nyc taxes, dolan, weather etc. However, if we SAVE our money until 2018 when the cap stops rising, then the knicks will be one of the few teams WITH money to spend
Knicks have one of the rising young stars of the league, which is attractive. I think most NBA players want a situation where they can win and look good doing it.
I worry the Triangle is a bigger detractor than any of the factors you mentioned.
But, yes, almost every team will have cap room this summer, which means almost every FA will be wildly overpaid.
yeah you make a great point as well. this fascination with the Triangle Religion turns FAs off
Dragic, Mike Conley, KD and others have said that they would consider the Knicks and the Triangle wasn't an issue. I think they care more about the Money, KP, Melo and NY. It's a good landing spot if you look at the potential of KP. It's gonna really be important to end the season strong so that the team shows it's on the rise as opposed to floundering.
Speaking of Mike Conley - here's the contract the Knicks will need to offer him. Cue the outrage!
IF we trade melo for pieces/draft picks and D Lee expiring contract. I think we would have 37 million to spend this off season = Conley and KD
helloharv wrote:IF we trade melo for pieces/draft picks and D Lee expiring contract. I think we would have 37 million to spend this off season = Conley and KD
They'd have to free up around $52M in cap room to offer both KD and Conley max deals.
crzymdups wrote:helloharv wrote:IF we trade melo for pieces/draft picks and D Lee expiring contract. I think we would have 37 million to spend this off season = Conley and KD
They'd have to free up around $52M in cap room to offer both KD and Conley max deals.
If AA and D Will don't take options, that may get us close
crzymdups wrote:Speaking of Mike Conley - here's the contract the Knicks will need to offer him. Cue the outrage!
Man, screw that. Conley isn't worth it and will be declining soon.
wh4t wrote:crzymdups wrote:Speaking of Mike Conley - here's the contract the Knicks will need to offer him. Cue the outrage!
Man, screw that. Conley isn't worth it and will be declining soon.
what are you other options ?
helloharv wrote:wh4t wrote:crzymdups wrote:Speaking of Mike Conley - here's the contract the Knicks will need to offer him. Cue the outrage!
Man, screw that. Conley isn't worth it and will be declining soon.
what are you other options ?
That kind of money is worth 2 players like Jeff Teague and someone else. Phil Jackson seems kind of cheap and isn't trying to go over the cap space for the Knicks. Conley will most likely look for a no trade clause and that's also gonna be a no deal for phil. Too risky
I don't get why the nba is making such ever increasing amounts of money- the past couple of seasons have been quite dull and exciting rivalries between players and teams are few and far between. Maybe it's just me being grumpy due to the knicks sucking during that time frame, but I still find it odd that business is booming so much.
helloharv wrote:wh4t wrote:crzymdups wrote:Speaking of Mike Conley - here's the contract the Knicks will need to offer him. Cue the outrage!
Man, screw that. Conley isn't worth it and will be declining soon.
what are you other options ?
no move is better than a bad one. I wouldn't max out a guy who should be the 3rd or 4th option. He's a really good player at his current price. $20mm a year plus? Not so much.
I would keep working the farm system. Keep pumping up KP. The 2017 FA class is worth saving for. I mean I have no problem with the goal being to surround Melo/KP with enough role players to make the playoffs next year and that's it. If the Knicks are smart they could add two max level FAs to go with Melo/KP after next year. Obviously Melo's game will be in decline, but he becomes the 3rd option if you add Westbrook and another beast.
What the hell do know? Maybe Conley pops and is a better mature player than an younger one. Who knows.
crzymdups wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/147839...Howard is 30, declining and about to enter free agency as the cap spikes to around $92 million -- the new estimate lots of teams are using after the league initially projected an $89 million ceiling for next season.
So I think that means the Knicks will have more like $21M in cap space even if DWill and AAA opt in.
so what no one is coming here. Its going to be 2 more seasons before this team is any good. We need to tank again next season
They need to alter the percentages of max deals, its just way to much
callmened wrote:what this basically means is that this summer (and the next), the knicks will be competing with other teams that ALSO have money. in those situations, the knicks CANT compete - high nyc taxes, dolan, weather etc. However, if we SAVE our money until 2018 when the cap stops rising, then the knicks will be one of the few teams WITH money to spend
Yeah, I hear the weather is great in Sacramento. Lots of FA's want to go there, right? The weather? Really?
Max Player: "hey hey, agent man, what's the word?"
Agent: "well, we got Houston, OKC, NYC and SacTown on the line"
Max Player: "no, no NYC! I hear it rains there alot and there's snow sometimes!"
Agent: "dude, we're talking about NYC, you know, largest city in America? And most people with tens of millions pay people to shovel snow, most folks go indoors when it's raining, and there's this thing called "heat" that you turn on..."
smackeddog wrote:I don't get why the nba is making such ever increasing amounts of money- the past couple of seasons have been quite dull and exciting rivalries between players and teams are few and far between. Maybe it's just me being grumpy due to the knicks sucking during that time frame, but I still find it odd that business is booming so much.
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