Knicks · We signed Tony Wroten to 3 year contract... (page 30)
), Knicks still run the Triangle.Wroten has ZERO experience in the Triangle.
I'd prefer Vujacic handling the point guard role.
Lopez (C)
Porzingis (PF)
Anthony (SF)
Vujacic (PG) defending the opposing SG
Fredette (SG) defending the opposing PG
Come on (!) Let's get the Triangle running right for a couple of years . . .
Malcolm wrote:You know . . . until we hear otherwise (if everWroten has ZERO experience in the Triangle.
I'd prefer Vujacic handling the point guard role.
Lopez (C)
Porzingis (PF)
Anthony (SF)
Vujacic (PG) defending the opposing SG
Fredette (SG) defending the opposing PGCome on (!) Let's get the Triangle running right for a couple of years . . .
dear god. that's the worst backcourt I've ever seen. I'm fine with Sasha in small doses off the bench.
The triangle isn't some mystical system no one can run. Harper came to the Bulls from the free-wheelin' Clippers and ran it fine, having never played it before. Fisher came to the Lakers and ran it fine, having never played it before, straight out of Arkansas, I believe.
You think Wroten hasn't been watching film and getting pointers in at the practice facility?
Also, there are reports that Hornacek is going to be allowed to update the Triangle. And maybe he's a better teacher of it than Fisher or Rambis were. He's certainly had more success as a head coach.
crzymdups wrote:Malcolm wrote:You know . . . until we hear otherwise (if everWroten has ZERO experience in the Triangle.
I'd prefer Vujacic handling the point guard role.
Lopez (C)
Porzingis (PF)
Anthony (SF)
Vujacic (PG) defending the opposing SG
Fredette (SG) defending the opposing PGCome on (!) Let's get the Triangle running right for a couple of years . . .
dear god. that's the worst backcourt I've ever seen. I'm fine with Sasha in small doses off the bench.
The triangle isn't some mystical system no one can run. Harper came to the Bulls from the free-wheelin' Clippers and ran it fine, having never played it before. Fisher came to the Lakers and ran it fine, having never played it before, straight out of Arkansas, I believe.
You think Wroten hasn't been watching film and getting pointers in at the practice facility?
Also, there are reports that Hornacek is going to be allowed to update the Triangle. And maybe he's a better teacher of it than Fisher or Rambis were. He's certainly had more success as a head coach.
Yeah If you want your guards to be attacking as you should if you have Grant, Wroten and Gallo, then JH is the right coach for that. I've been saying this forever it seems, but the triangle doesn't mean you can't push the ball and get early offense. The triangle should come AFTER you attack the defense and see if you can score quickly. That's always been the 1st part of the triangle. So no it's not anti Triangle to push the ball and get out on the break as some keep assuming.
By Phil Jackson and Tex Winter
Seven Principles of the Sound OffenseAn effective offense, to my way of thinking, features the following dimensions.
1. Penetration. Players must penetrate the defense, and the best way to do this is the fast break, because basketball is a full-court game, from baseline to baseline.
2. Spacing. I am a fanatic about how players distribute themselves on the offensive end of the court. They must space themselves in a way that makes it most difficult to defend, trap, and help. Players must align a certain number of feet apart. In high school, I’d recommend 12 to 15 feet spacing, in college, 15 to 18 feet, and in the NBA, 15 to 20 feet. Proper spacing not only exposes individual defensive players’ vulnerabilities, but also ensures that every time the defense tries to trap, an offensive player will be open.
3. Ball and player movements. Players must move, and must move the ball, with a purpose. Effective off-the-ball activity is much more important than most fans and players think because they’re so used to watching only the movement of the ball and the player in possession of it. But there is only one ball and there are five players, meaning most players will have the ball in their hands 20 percent or less of the time the team is in possession of the ball.
4. Options for the ball handler. The more options a smart player has to attack a defender, the more successful that offensive player will be. When teammates are all moving to positions to free themselves (or another teammate with a pick), the ball handler’s choices are vastly increased.
5. Offensive rebounding and defensive balance. On all shots we take, players must go strong for the rebound while retaining court balance and awareness to prevent the opponent’s fast break.
6. Versatile positioning. The offense must offer to any player the chance to fill any spot on the court, independent of the player’s role. All positions should be interchangeable.
7. Use individual talents. It only makes sense for an offense to allow a team to take advantage of the skill sets of its best players. This doesn’t preclude the focus on team play that is emphasized in the six other principles, but it does acknowledge that some individuals have certain types and degrees of talent, and an offense should accentuate those assets. Michael Jordan taught me this.Finally, I want the offense to flow from rebound to fast break, to quick offense, to a system of offense. The defenses in the NBA are so good because the players are so big, quick, and well coached. Add the pressure that the 24-second clock rule applies to the offense to find a good shot, and the defense gets even better.
The triangle offense has proven most effective, even against such obstacles, when players commit to and execute the system. The offense hinges on players attending to minute details in executing not just plays but also the fundamentals underlying the plays. Once players have mastered the individual techniques required of their roles, we then integrate those individuals into a team. Once this is done, the foundation for a good offense is solidly in place. The team can then go on the court with the confidence and poise so essential to success.
This method of play is as old as basketball. The triangle set is adjustable to the personnel, but such adaptations can be made without altering the essence of the offense. The only necessary adjustment from one season to the next involves tailoring the series of options based on each individual’s talents.