Knicks · By the way--we dont need Langston Galloway if Bryn Forbes is bypassed in the draft (page 2)
nixluva wrote:Seems a bit much to assume that Bryn would be an upgrade over Gallo at the NBA level. How can you be sure about that? People hate on Gallo but he's not at bad as people make him out to be considering he's in his 1st full NBA season and was undrafted. Look at where he's ranking.
Hollinger Stats - Estimated Wins Added - Qualified Shooting Guards
RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
1 James Harden, HOU 81 38.2 .598 20.7 12.7 32.1 2.2 15.7 8.9 25.27 682.2 22.7
2 DeMar DeRozan, TOR 77 36.1 .550 14.5 8.1 28.6 2.6 11.4 7.1 21.63 462.0 15.4
3 Jimmy Butler, CHI 66 37.1 .564 18.6 7.7 23.9 3.2 11.4 7.4 21.34 396.0 13.2
4 Dwyane Wade, MIA 72 30.5 .519 18.0 10.7 30.6 4.4 10.7 7.6 20.67 332.8 11.1
5 Klay Thompson, GS 79 33.4 .597 9.3 7.8 24.3 1.5 10.4 6.2 18.69 322.5 10.8
6 C.J. McCollum, POR 79 34.8 .545 16.4 9.5 26.4 1.8 8.3 5.0 17.76 298.1 9.9
7 Khris Middleton, MIL 78 36.5 .562 18.4 10.1 22.4 1.8 10.3 6.1 16.94 273.2 9.1
8 Andrew Wiggins, MIN 80 35.1 .542 8.8 9.7 25.2 4.4 7.5 5.9 16.58 255.0 8.5
9 Victor Oladipo, ORL 72 33.0 .534 18.6 10.1 22.3 2.2 14.0 8.0 16.78 222.9 7.4
10 J.J. Redick, LAC 74 28.2 .631 9.2 6.8 20.7 0.5 6.6 3.6 17.56 219.5 7.3RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
11 Louis Williams, LAL 67 28.5 .584 14.5 9.3 21.9 1.7 8.1 4.8 17.77 206.9 6.9
12 Nicolas Batum, CHA 70 35.0 .546 25.7 13.1 21.3 2.4 16.8 9.6 15.72 190.5 6.4
13 Evan Fournier, ORL 78 32.5 .584 15.5 9.6 19.3 1.4 8.4 4.9 14.59 154.5 5.2
14 Rodney Hood, UTAH 78 32.3 .544 15.1 8.9 20.8 1.7 10.5 6.1 14.25 141.1 4.7
15 Monta Ellis, IND 80 33.9 .504 22.6 11.9 20.9 1.7 9.2 5.5 13.81 133.9 4.5
16 Bradley Beal, WSH 55 31.1 .547 14.1 9.7 23.8 2.6 9.8 6.2 15.63 130.7 4.4
17 Manu Ginobili, SA 58 19.6 .573 23.3 13.0 23.2 2.7 11.7 7.3 17.88 124.9 4.2
18 Jamal Crawford, LAC 79 26.9 .529 13.5 8.3 23.2 1.0 6.3 3.7 14.06 112.9 3.8
19 Evan Turner, BOS 80 28.0 .513 26.5 12.5 19.1 2.3 16.6 9.3 13.58 103.2 3.4
20 Jeremy Lamb, CHA 65 18.4 .527 11.4 7.1 20.5 3.9 18.5 11.1 15.90 96.4 3.2RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
21 Tyreke Evans, NO 25 30.6 .534 27.7 12.3 25.0 2.8 16.3 9.3 18.00 85.6 2.9
22 Gary Harris, DEN 75 32.0 .567 13.9 9.1 15.8 2.4 7.7 5.0 12.88 85.4 2.8
23 K Caldwell-Pope, DET 75 36.7 .522 10.8 8.0 17.4 2.6 8.6 5.5 12.41 78.5 2.6
24 J.R. Smith, CLE 77 30.7 .542 12.1 5.5 17.1 2.1 8.3 5.2 12.42 67.8 2.3
25 Eric Gordon, NO 45 32.9 .565 15.1 9.1 19.3 0.7 6.9 3.7 13.55 67.4 2.2
26 Tony Allen, MEM 64 25.3 .505 10.3 11.5 16.0 7.0 14.1 10.4 12.94 59.1 2.0
27 Gerald Henderson, POR 72 19.9 .526 10.2 9.2 19.1 2.3 13.8 8.0 12.98 53.0 1.8
28 Devin Booker, PHX 75 27.7 .537 15.0 11.8 22.2 1.4 8.4 4.8 12.16 51.6 1.7
29 Allen Crabbe, POR 80 26.0 .569 11.0 7.3 15.6 1.4 9.8 5.6 12.05 48.1 1.6
Sean Kilpatrick, DEN/BKN 30 19.5 .584 7.6 9.1 14.4 2.3 7.6 4.9 15.87 46.9 1.6RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
31 Alec Burks, UTAH 31 25.7 .520 12.4 10.0 24.7 2.4 13.6 8.0 14.40 46.4 1.5
Seth Curry, SAC 43 15.2 .630 19.2 9.6 16.5 1.3 7.6 4.5 15.01 43.9 1.5
33 Tyler Johnson, MIA 36 24.0 .579 19.9 11.8 16.3 3.8 10.3 7.2 13.78 42.2 1.4
34 Vince Carter, MEM 58 16.7 .525 11.9 7.5 17.7 3.5 13.8 8.4 13.06 37.0 1.2
Langston Galloway, NY 81 24.7 .493 22.8 6.9 15.4 2.3 13.1 7.8 11.71 36.1 1.2
Courtney Lee, MEM/CHA 78 29.7 .553 15.1 8.1 14.7 1.4 8.7 4.9 11.52 35.4 1.2
37 R Hollis-Jefferson, BKN 28 21.1 .516 19.0 11.3 13.2 7.3 21.7 14.4 14.20 32.6 1.1
38 Josh Richardson, MIA 50 20.9 .583 18.0 8.6 13.6 2.1 8.2 5.3 12.10 24.8 0.8
Kevin Martin, MIN/SA 53 19.9 .527 9.8 8.8 21.8 1.4 10.3 5.9 12.08 24.8 0.8
40 Leandro Barbosa, GS 67 15.8 .546 15.5 9.7 17.1 2.9 8.1 5.6 11.89 21.9 0.7RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
41 E'Twaun Moore, CHI 59 21.4 .548 17.8 9.5 15.5 1.6 9.3 5.5 11.44 17.6 0.6
Wesley Matthews, DAL 77 33.8 .534 13.1 6.8 16.1 1.1 8.7 4.9 10.93 16.6 0.6
43 Justin Anderson, DAL 54 11.4 .520 10.3 9.9 14.9 3.2 19.3 11.3 12.25 16.1 0.5
Markel Brown, BKN 61 15.6 .507 18.4 10.7 18.3 2.7 11.2 6.9 11.61 15.7 0.5
Arron Afflalo, NY 70 33.5 .530 13.3 7.6 17.0 1.1 11.1 6.2 10.94 15.4 0.5
Jonathon Simmons, SA 53 14.7 .590 15.2 13.8 17.5 2.3 10.5 6.5 11.68 13.7 0.5
47 Archie Goodwin, PHX 56 19.4 .505 16.1 14.1 22.5 2.6 11.6 7.0 11.27 12.5 0.4
Tim Hardaway Jr., ATL 50 17.0 .555 14.1 6.2 14.9 0.9 9.5 5.3 11.39 11.2 0.4
Norman Powell, TOR 47 13.8 .508 14.1 10.0 16.7 2.7 14.4 8.7 11.60 10.6 0.4
50 Sasha Vujacic, NY 60 14.8 .510 19.2 10.6 16.4 3.2 14.4 8.9 11.27 10.2 0.3
now you are using EWA? You can't keep jumping to a different metric just to retrofit your argument.
mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:Seems a bit much to assume that Bryn would be an upgrade over Gallo at the NBA level. How can you be sure about that? People hate on Gallo but he's not at bad as people make him out to be considering he's in his 1st full NBA season and was undrafted. Look at where he's ranking.
Hollinger Stats - Estimated Wins Added - Qualified Shooting Guards
RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
1 James Harden, HOU 81 38.2 .598 20.7 12.7 32.1 2.2 15.7 8.9 25.27 682.2 22.7
2 DeMar DeRozan, TOR 77 36.1 .550 14.5 8.1 28.6 2.6 11.4 7.1 21.63 462.0 15.4
3 Jimmy Butler, CHI 66 37.1 .564 18.6 7.7 23.9 3.2 11.4 7.4 21.34 396.0 13.2
4 Dwyane Wade, MIA 72 30.5 .519 18.0 10.7 30.6 4.4 10.7 7.6 20.67 332.8 11.1
5 Klay Thompson, GS 79 33.4 .597 9.3 7.8 24.3 1.5 10.4 6.2 18.69 322.5 10.8
6 C.J. McCollum, POR 79 34.8 .545 16.4 9.5 26.4 1.8 8.3 5.0 17.76 298.1 9.9
7 Khris Middleton, MIL 78 36.5 .562 18.4 10.1 22.4 1.8 10.3 6.1 16.94 273.2 9.1
8 Andrew Wiggins, MIN 80 35.1 .542 8.8 9.7 25.2 4.4 7.5 5.9 16.58 255.0 8.5
9 Victor Oladipo, ORL 72 33.0 .534 18.6 10.1 22.3 2.2 14.0 8.0 16.78 222.9 7.4
10 J.J. Redick, LAC 74 28.2 .631 9.2 6.8 20.7 0.5 6.6 3.6 17.56 219.5 7.3RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
11 Louis Williams, LAL 67 28.5 .584 14.5 9.3 21.9 1.7 8.1 4.8 17.77 206.9 6.9
12 Nicolas Batum, CHA 70 35.0 .546 25.7 13.1 21.3 2.4 16.8 9.6 15.72 190.5 6.4
13 Evan Fournier, ORL 78 32.5 .584 15.5 9.6 19.3 1.4 8.4 4.9 14.59 154.5 5.2
14 Rodney Hood, UTAH 78 32.3 .544 15.1 8.9 20.8 1.7 10.5 6.1 14.25 141.1 4.7
15 Monta Ellis, IND 80 33.9 .504 22.6 11.9 20.9 1.7 9.2 5.5 13.81 133.9 4.5
16 Bradley Beal, WSH 55 31.1 .547 14.1 9.7 23.8 2.6 9.8 6.2 15.63 130.7 4.4
17 Manu Ginobili, SA 58 19.6 .573 23.3 13.0 23.2 2.7 11.7 7.3 17.88 124.9 4.2
18 Jamal Crawford, LAC 79 26.9 .529 13.5 8.3 23.2 1.0 6.3 3.7 14.06 112.9 3.8
19 Evan Turner, BOS 80 28.0 .513 26.5 12.5 19.1 2.3 16.6 9.3 13.58 103.2 3.4
20 Jeremy Lamb, CHA 65 18.4 .527 11.4 7.1 20.5 3.9 18.5 11.1 15.90 96.4 3.2RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
21 Tyreke Evans, NO 25 30.6 .534 27.7 12.3 25.0 2.8 16.3 9.3 18.00 85.6 2.9
22 Gary Harris, DEN 75 32.0 .567 13.9 9.1 15.8 2.4 7.7 5.0 12.88 85.4 2.8
23 K Caldwell-Pope, DET 75 36.7 .522 10.8 8.0 17.4 2.6 8.6 5.5 12.41 78.5 2.6
24 J.R. Smith, CLE 77 30.7 .542 12.1 5.5 17.1 2.1 8.3 5.2 12.42 67.8 2.3
25 Eric Gordon, NO 45 32.9 .565 15.1 9.1 19.3 0.7 6.9 3.7 13.55 67.4 2.2
26 Tony Allen, MEM 64 25.3 .505 10.3 11.5 16.0 7.0 14.1 10.4 12.94 59.1 2.0
27 Gerald Henderson, POR 72 19.9 .526 10.2 9.2 19.1 2.3 13.8 8.0 12.98 53.0 1.8
28 Devin Booker, PHX 75 27.7 .537 15.0 11.8 22.2 1.4 8.4 4.8 12.16 51.6 1.7
29 Allen Crabbe, POR 80 26.0 .569 11.0 7.3 15.6 1.4 9.8 5.6 12.05 48.1 1.6
Sean Kilpatrick, DEN/BKN 30 19.5 .584 7.6 9.1 14.4 2.3 7.6 4.9 15.87 46.9 1.6RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
31 Alec Burks, UTAH 31 25.7 .520 12.4 10.0 24.7 2.4 13.6 8.0 14.40 46.4 1.5
Seth Curry, SAC 43 15.2 .630 19.2 9.6 16.5 1.3 7.6 4.5 15.01 43.9 1.5
33 Tyler Johnson, MIA 36 24.0 .579 19.9 11.8 16.3 3.8 10.3 7.2 13.78 42.2 1.4
34 Vince Carter, MEM 58 16.7 .525 11.9 7.5 17.7 3.5 13.8 8.4 13.06 37.0 1.2
Langston Galloway, NY 81 24.7 .493 22.8 6.9 15.4 2.3 13.1 7.8 11.71 36.1 1.2
Courtney Lee, MEM/CHA 78 29.7 .553 15.1 8.1 14.7 1.4 8.7 4.9 11.52 35.4 1.2
37 R Hollis-Jefferson, BKN 28 21.1 .516 19.0 11.3 13.2 7.3 21.7 14.4 14.20 32.6 1.1
38 Josh Richardson, MIA 50 20.9 .583 18.0 8.6 13.6 2.1 8.2 5.3 12.10 24.8 0.8
Kevin Martin, MIN/SA 53 19.9 .527 9.8 8.8 21.8 1.4 10.3 5.9 12.08 24.8 0.8
40 Leandro Barbosa, GS 67 15.8 .546 15.5 9.7 17.1 2.9 8.1 5.6 11.89 21.9 0.7RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
41 E'Twaun Moore, CHI 59 21.4 .548 17.8 9.5 15.5 1.6 9.3 5.5 11.44 17.6 0.6
Wesley Matthews, DAL 77 33.8 .534 13.1 6.8 16.1 1.1 8.7 4.9 10.93 16.6 0.6
43 Justin Anderson, DAL 54 11.4 .520 10.3 9.9 14.9 3.2 19.3 11.3 12.25 16.1 0.5
Markel Brown, BKN 61 15.6 .507 18.4 10.7 18.3 2.7 11.2 6.9 11.61 15.7 0.5
Arron Afflalo, NY 70 33.5 .530 13.3 7.6 17.0 1.1 11.1 6.2 10.94 15.4 0.5
Jonathon Simmons, SA 53 14.7 .590 15.2 13.8 17.5 2.3 10.5 6.5 11.68 13.7 0.5
47 Archie Goodwin, PHX 56 19.4 .505 16.1 14.1 22.5 2.6 11.6 7.0 11.27 12.5 0.4
Tim Hardaway Jr., ATL 50 17.0 .555 14.1 6.2 14.9 0.9 9.5 5.3 11.39 11.2 0.4
Norman Powell, TOR 47 13.8 .508 14.1 10.0 16.7 2.7 14.4 8.7 11.60 10.6 0.4
50 Sasha Vujacic, NY 60 14.8 .510 19.2 10.6 16.4 3.2 14.4 8.9 11.27 10.2 0.3now you are using EWA? You can't keep jumping to a different metric just to retrofit your argument.
You're an ASS!!! No one is retrofitting anything. Why should I be stuck on only one stat? I actually posted a number of the different stats in this thread and where Gallo ranked and basically he was OK in all of them. He's not a big time player and i'm not representing him as one. He's played less than 2 full seasons and he was brought in as a reserve. Gallo shouldn't even have made it to the NBA and yet he's doing better than guys that were drafted.
I think he can improve his shooting efficiency and climb the ladder. I think it's easy to just say we can do better, but some of the players that are mentioned to replace him aren't even as good nor significantly better. We really don't need to worry so much about Gallo. It's finding STARTERS that will be our main focus.
nixluva wrote:mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:Seems a bit much to assume that Bryn would be an upgrade over Gallo at the NBA level. How can you be sure about that? People hate on Gallo but he's not at bad as people make him out to be considering he's in his 1st full NBA season and was undrafted. Look at where he's ranking.
Hollinger Stats - Estimated Wins Added - Qualified Shooting Guards
RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
1 James Harden, HOU 81 38.2 .598 20.7 12.7 32.1 2.2 15.7 8.9 25.27 682.2 22.7
2 DeMar DeRozan, TOR 77 36.1 .550 14.5 8.1 28.6 2.6 11.4 7.1 21.63 462.0 15.4
3 Jimmy Butler, CHI 66 37.1 .564 18.6 7.7 23.9 3.2 11.4 7.4 21.34 396.0 13.2
4 Dwyane Wade, MIA 72 30.5 .519 18.0 10.7 30.6 4.4 10.7 7.6 20.67 332.8 11.1
5 Klay Thompson, GS 79 33.4 .597 9.3 7.8 24.3 1.5 10.4 6.2 18.69 322.5 10.8
6 C.J. McCollum, POR 79 34.8 .545 16.4 9.5 26.4 1.8 8.3 5.0 17.76 298.1 9.9
7 Khris Middleton, MIL 78 36.5 .562 18.4 10.1 22.4 1.8 10.3 6.1 16.94 273.2 9.1
8 Andrew Wiggins, MIN 80 35.1 .542 8.8 9.7 25.2 4.4 7.5 5.9 16.58 255.0 8.5
9 Victor Oladipo, ORL 72 33.0 .534 18.6 10.1 22.3 2.2 14.0 8.0 16.78 222.9 7.4
10 J.J. Redick, LAC 74 28.2 .631 9.2 6.8 20.7 0.5 6.6 3.6 17.56 219.5 7.3RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
11 Louis Williams, LAL 67 28.5 .584 14.5 9.3 21.9 1.7 8.1 4.8 17.77 206.9 6.9
12 Nicolas Batum, CHA 70 35.0 .546 25.7 13.1 21.3 2.4 16.8 9.6 15.72 190.5 6.4
13 Evan Fournier, ORL 78 32.5 .584 15.5 9.6 19.3 1.4 8.4 4.9 14.59 154.5 5.2
14 Rodney Hood, UTAH 78 32.3 .544 15.1 8.9 20.8 1.7 10.5 6.1 14.25 141.1 4.7
15 Monta Ellis, IND 80 33.9 .504 22.6 11.9 20.9 1.7 9.2 5.5 13.81 133.9 4.5
16 Bradley Beal, WSH 55 31.1 .547 14.1 9.7 23.8 2.6 9.8 6.2 15.63 130.7 4.4
17 Manu Ginobili, SA 58 19.6 .573 23.3 13.0 23.2 2.7 11.7 7.3 17.88 124.9 4.2
18 Jamal Crawford, LAC 79 26.9 .529 13.5 8.3 23.2 1.0 6.3 3.7 14.06 112.9 3.8
19 Evan Turner, BOS 80 28.0 .513 26.5 12.5 19.1 2.3 16.6 9.3 13.58 103.2 3.4
20 Jeremy Lamb, CHA 65 18.4 .527 11.4 7.1 20.5 3.9 18.5 11.1 15.90 96.4 3.2RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
21 Tyreke Evans, NO 25 30.6 .534 27.7 12.3 25.0 2.8 16.3 9.3 18.00 85.6 2.9
22 Gary Harris, DEN 75 32.0 .567 13.9 9.1 15.8 2.4 7.7 5.0 12.88 85.4 2.8
23 K Caldwell-Pope, DET 75 36.7 .522 10.8 8.0 17.4 2.6 8.6 5.5 12.41 78.5 2.6
24 J.R. Smith, CLE 77 30.7 .542 12.1 5.5 17.1 2.1 8.3 5.2 12.42 67.8 2.3
25 Eric Gordon, NO 45 32.9 .565 15.1 9.1 19.3 0.7 6.9 3.7 13.55 67.4 2.2
26 Tony Allen, MEM 64 25.3 .505 10.3 11.5 16.0 7.0 14.1 10.4 12.94 59.1 2.0
27 Gerald Henderson, POR 72 19.9 .526 10.2 9.2 19.1 2.3 13.8 8.0 12.98 53.0 1.8
28 Devin Booker, PHX 75 27.7 .537 15.0 11.8 22.2 1.4 8.4 4.8 12.16 51.6 1.7
29 Allen Crabbe, POR 80 26.0 .569 11.0 7.3 15.6 1.4 9.8 5.6 12.05 48.1 1.6
Sean Kilpatrick, DEN/BKN 30 19.5 .584 7.6 9.1 14.4 2.3 7.6 4.9 15.87 46.9 1.6RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
31 Alec Burks, UTAH 31 25.7 .520 12.4 10.0 24.7 2.4 13.6 8.0 14.40 46.4 1.5
Seth Curry, SAC 43 15.2 .630 19.2 9.6 16.5 1.3 7.6 4.5 15.01 43.9 1.5
33 Tyler Johnson, MIA 36 24.0 .579 19.9 11.8 16.3 3.8 10.3 7.2 13.78 42.2 1.4
34 Vince Carter, MEM 58 16.7 .525 11.9 7.5 17.7 3.5 13.8 8.4 13.06 37.0 1.2
Langston Galloway, NY 81 24.7 .493 22.8 6.9 15.4 2.3 13.1 7.8 11.71 36.1 1.2
Courtney Lee, MEM/CHA 78 29.7 .553 15.1 8.1 14.7 1.4 8.7 4.9 11.52 35.4 1.2
37 R Hollis-Jefferson, BKN 28 21.1 .516 19.0 11.3 13.2 7.3 21.7 14.4 14.20 32.6 1.1
38 Josh Richardson, MIA 50 20.9 .583 18.0 8.6 13.6 2.1 8.2 5.3 12.10 24.8 0.8
Kevin Martin, MIN/SA 53 19.9 .527 9.8 8.8 21.8 1.4 10.3 5.9 12.08 24.8 0.8
40 Leandro Barbosa, GS 67 15.8 .546 15.5 9.7 17.1 2.9 8.1 5.6 11.89 21.9 0.7RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
41 E'Twaun Moore, CHI 59 21.4 .548 17.8 9.5 15.5 1.6 9.3 5.5 11.44 17.6 0.6
Wesley Matthews, DAL 77 33.8 .534 13.1 6.8 16.1 1.1 8.7 4.9 10.93 16.6 0.6
43 Justin Anderson, DAL 54 11.4 .520 10.3 9.9 14.9 3.2 19.3 11.3 12.25 16.1 0.5
Markel Brown, BKN 61 15.6 .507 18.4 10.7 18.3 2.7 11.2 6.9 11.61 15.7 0.5
Arron Afflalo, NY 70 33.5 .530 13.3 7.6 17.0 1.1 11.1 6.2 10.94 15.4 0.5
Jonathon Simmons, SA 53 14.7 .590 15.2 13.8 17.5 2.3 10.5 6.5 11.68 13.7 0.5
47 Archie Goodwin, PHX 56 19.4 .505 16.1 14.1 22.5 2.6 11.6 7.0 11.27 12.5 0.4
Tim Hardaway Jr., ATL 50 17.0 .555 14.1 6.2 14.9 0.9 9.5 5.3 11.39 11.2 0.4
Norman Powell, TOR 47 13.8 .508 14.1 10.0 16.7 2.7 14.4 8.7 11.60 10.6 0.4
50 Sasha Vujacic, NY 60 14.8 .510 19.2 10.6 16.4 3.2 14.4 8.9 11.27 10.2 0.3now you are using EWA? You can't keep jumping to a different metric just to retrofit your argument.
You're an ASS!!! No one is retrofitting anything. Why should I be stuck on only one stat? I actually posted a number of the different stats in this thread and where Gallo ranked and basically he was OK in all of them. He's not a big time player and i'm not representing him as one. He's played less than 2 full seasons and he was brought in as a reserve. Gallo shouldn't even have made it to the NBA and yet he's doing better than guys that were drafted.I think he can improve his shooting efficiency and climb the ladder. I think it's easy to just say we can do better, but some of the players that are mentioned to replace him aren't even as good nor significantly better. We really don't need to worry so much about Gallo. It's finding STARTERS that will be our main focus.
I think it takes some time to see how things fall out but when Norman Powell is an NBA all star and Langston Galloway is playing in Europe--youll figure it out.
BRIGGS wrote:nixluva wrote:mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:Seems a bit much to assume that Bryn would be an upgrade over Gallo at the NBA level. How can you be sure about that? People hate on Gallo but he's not at bad as people make him out to be considering he's in his 1st full NBA season and was undrafted. Look at where he's ranking.
Hollinger Stats - Estimated Wins Added - Qualified Shooting Guards
RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
1 James Harden, HOU 81 38.2 .598 20.7 12.7 32.1 2.2 15.7 8.9 25.27 682.2 22.7
2 DeMar DeRozan, TOR 77 36.1 .550 14.5 8.1 28.6 2.6 11.4 7.1 21.63 462.0 15.4
3 Jimmy Butler, CHI 66 37.1 .564 18.6 7.7 23.9 3.2 11.4 7.4 21.34 396.0 13.2
4 Dwyane Wade, MIA 72 30.5 .519 18.0 10.7 30.6 4.4 10.7 7.6 20.67 332.8 11.1
5 Klay Thompson, GS 79 33.4 .597 9.3 7.8 24.3 1.5 10.4 6.2 18.69 322.5 10.8
6 C.J. McCollum, POR 79 34.8 .545 16.4 9.5 26.4 1.8 8.3 5.0 17.76 298.1 9.9
7 Khris Middleton, MIL 78 36.5 .562 18.4 10.1 22.4 1.8 10.3 6.1 16.94 273.2 9.1
8 Andrew Wiggins, MIN 80 35.1 .542 8.8 9.7 25.2 4.4 7.5 5.9 16.58 255.0 8.5
9 Victor Oladipo, ORL 72 33.0 .534 18.6 10.1 22.3 2.2 14.0 8.0 16.78 222.9 7.4
10 J.J. Redick, LAC 74 28.2 .631 9.2 6.8 20.7 0.5 6.6 3.6 17.56 219.5 7.3RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
11 Louis Williams, LAL 67 28.5 .584 14.5 9.3 21.9 1.7 8.1 4.8 17.77 206.9 6.9
12 Nicolas Batum, CHA 70 35.0 .546 25.7 13.1 21.3 2.4 16.8 9.6 15.72 190.5 6.4
13 Evan Fournier, ORL 78 32.5 .584 15.5 9.6 19.3 1.4 8.4 4.9 14.59 154.5 5.2
14 Rodney Hood, UTAH 78 32.3 .544 15.1 8.9 20.8 1.7 10.5 6.1 14.25 141.1 4.7
15 Monta Ellis, IND 80 33.9 .504 22.6 11.9 20.9 1.7 9.2 5.5 13.81 133.9 4.5
16 Bradley Beal, WSH 55 31.1 .547 14.1 9.7 23.8 2.6 9.8 6.2 15.63 130.7 4.4
17 Manu Ginobili, SA 58 19.6 .573 23.3 13.0 23.2 2.7 11.7 7.3 17.88 124.9 4.2
18 Jamal Crawford, LAC 79 26.9 .529 13.5 8.3 23.2 1.0 6.3 3.7 14.06 112.9 3.8
19 Evan Turner, BOS 80 28.0 .513 26.5 12.5 19.1 2.3 16.6 9.3 13.58 103.2 3.4
20 Jeremy Lamb, CHA 65 18.4 .527 11.4 7.1 20.5 3.9 18.5 11.1 15.90 96.4 3.2RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
21 Tyreke Evans, NO 25 30.6 .534 27.7 12.3 25.0 2.8 16.3 9.3 18.00 85.6 2.9
22 Gary Harris, DEN 75 32.0 .567 13.9 9.1 15.8 2.4 7.7 5.0 12.88 85.4 2.8
23 K Caldwell-Pope, DET 75 36.7 .522 10.8 8.0 17.4 2.6 8.6 5.5 12.41 78.5 2.6
24 J.R. Smith, CLE 77 30.7 .542 12.1 5.5 17.1 2.1 8.3 5.2 12.42 67.8 2.3
25 Eric Gordon, NO 45 32.9 .565 15.1 9.1 19.3 0.7 6.9 3.7 13.55 67.4 2.2
26 Tony Allen, MEM 64 25.3 .505 10.3 11.5 16.0 7.0 14.1 10.4 12.94 59.1 2.0
27 Gerald Henderson, POR 72 19.9 .526 10.2 9.2 19.1 2.3 13.8 8.0 12.98 53.0 1.8
28 Devin Booker, PHX 75 27.7 .537 15.0 11.8 22.2 1.4 8.4 4.8 12.16 51.6 1.7
29 Allen Crabbe, POR 80 26.0 .569 11.0 7.3 15.6 1.4 9.8 5.6 12.05 48.1 1.6
Sean Kilpatrick, DEN/BKN 30 19.5 .584 7.6 9.1 14.4 2.3 7.6 4.9 15.87 46.9 1.6RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
31 Alec Burks, UTAH 31 25.7 .520 12.4 10.0 24.7 2.4 13.6 8.0 14.40 46.4 1.5
Seth Curry, SAC 43 15.2 .630 19.2 9.6 16.5 1.3 7.6 4.5 15.01 43.9 1.5
33 Tyler Johnson, MIA 36 24.0 .579 19.9 11.8 16.3 3.8 10.3 7.2 13.78 42.2 1.4
34 Vince Carter, MEM 58 16.7 .525 11.9 7.5 17.7 3.5 13.8 8.4 13.06 37.0 1.2
Langston Galloway, NY 81 24.7 .493 22.8 6.9 15.4 2.3 13.1 7.8 11.71 36.1 1.2
Courtney Lee, MEM/CHA 78 29.7 .553 15.1 8.1 14.7 1.4 8.7 4.9 11.52 35.4 1.2
37 R Hollis-Jefferson, BKN 28 21.1 .516 19.0 11.3 13.2 7.3 21.7 14.4 14.20 32.6 1.1
38 Josh Richardson, MIA 50 20.9 .583 18.0 8.6 13.6 2.1 8.2 5.3 12.10 24.8 0.8
Kevin Martin, MIN/SA 53 19.9 .527 9.8 8.8 21.8 1.4 10.3 5.9 12.08 24.8 0.8
40 Leandro Barbosa, GS 67 15.8 .546 15.5 9.7 17.1 2.9 8.1 5.6 11.89 21.9 0.7RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
41 E'Twaun Moore, CHI 59 21.4 .548 17.8 9.5 15.5 1.6 9.3 5.5 11.44 17.6 0.6
Wesley Matthews, DAL 77 33.8 .534 13.1 6.8 16.1 1.1 8.7 4.9 10.93 16.6 0.6
43 Justin Anderson, DAL 54 11.4 .520 10.3 9.9 14.9 3.2 19.3 11.3 12.25 16.1 0.5
Markel Brown, BKN 61 15.6 .507 18.4 10.7 18.3 2.7 11.2 6.9 11.61 15.7 0.5
Arron Afflalo, NY 70 33.5 .530 13.3 7.6 17.0 1.1 11.1 6.2 10.94 15.4 0.5
Jonathon Simmons, SA 53 14.7 .590 15.2 13.8 17.5 2.3 10.5 6.5 11.68 13.7 0.5
47 Archie Goodwin, PHX 56 19.4 .505 16.1 14.1 22.5 2.6 11.6 7.0 11.27 12.5 0.4
Tim Hardaway Jr., ATL 50 17.0 .555 14.1 6.2 14.9 0.9 9.5 5.3 11.39 11.2 0.4
Norman Powell, TOR 47 13.8 .508 14.1 10.0 16.7 2.7 14.4 8.7 11.60 10.6 0.4
50 Sasha Vujacic, NY 60 14.8 .510 19.2 10.6 16.4 3.2 14.4 8.9 11.27 10.2 0.3now you are using EWA? You can't keep jumping to a different metric just to retrofit your argument.
You're an ASS!!! No one is retrofitting anything. Why should I be stuck on only one stat? I actually posted a number of the different stats in this thread and where Gallo ranked and basically he was OK in all of them. He's not a big time player and i'm not representing him as one. He's played less than 2 full seasons and he was brought in as a reserve. Gallo shouldn't even have made it to the NBA and yet he's doing better than guys that were drafted.I think he can improve his shooting efficiency and climb the ladder. I think it's easy to just say we can do better, but some of the players that are mentioned to replace him aren't even as good nor significantly better. We really don't need to worry so much about Gallo. It's finding STARTERS that will be our main focus.
I think it takes some time to see how things fall out but when Norman Powell is an NBA all star and Langston Galloway is playing in Europe--youll figure it out.
So Norman Powell can improve but not Gallo?