BRIGGS wrote:Wow. Well I think he had a great life-- how many people get his life. On top of if he survived 30 years with a terrible disease but all in all quite a life
30 years of Parkinson's doesn't strike me as a great life. I respect his achievements but it's a sad outcome. Sure he had fame. I'd rather just be healthy and have a quiet life.
It's probably not the place or time to debate this but I'm curious about why you feel that way. I'm a low-key guy, so I tend to gravitate towards your position but simultaneously wonder WTF is the point of it all. So if I had the chance to lead the kind of life he did (pitfalls and all), I think I'd do it. We are all born to die...at least his life meant something. (Hope this didn't come across as condescending or morbid....that definitely isn't my intention).
NardDogNation@ 6/4/2016 4:49 PM
crzymdups wrote:So sad about Ali.
Didn't realize he had a connection to Allan Houston. Weird for me because I relocated from NYC to Louisville in the past year to help take of my father who has a very similar illness to Ali. I justed visited the Muhammad Ali museum in Louisville and drove by his house a few months ago. Didn't realize Allan Houston grew up on the same street!
Might try to attend the funeral next week, depending on how open they make it.
For what it's worth that is certainly commendable. Dealing with a very similar situation, which has me at my wits end. Thinking about sticking my parent in a retirement home at this point. Anyway, good luck with your Dad, man.
GustavBahler@ 6/4/2016 4:58 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Wow. Well I think he had a great life-- how many people get his life. On top of if he survived 30 years with a terrible disease but all in all quite a life
30 years of Parkinson's doesn't strike me as a great life. I respect his achievements but it's a sad outcome. Sure he had fame. I'd rather just be healthy and have a quiet life.
It's probably not the place or time to debate this but I'm curious about why you feel that way. I'm a low-key guy, so I tend to gravitate towards your position but simultaneously wonder WTF is the point of it all. So if I had the chance to lead the kind of life he did (pitfalls and all), I think I'd do it. We are all born to die...at least his life meant something. (Hope this didn't come across as condescending or morbid....that definitely isn't my intention).
I agree. Ali changed the world, thats no exaggeration. Sports, politics, music (Hip Hop), popular culture, religion, felt his influence. I dont believe Ali would have traded his affliction and a healthy life for all the good he has done, and all the joy and inspiration he brought to others.
Bonn1997@ 6/4/2016 6:18 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Wow. Well I think he had a great life-- how many people get his life. On top of if he survived 30 years with a terrible disease but all in all quite a life
30 years of Parkinson's doesn't strike me as a great life. I respect his achievements but it's a sad outcome. Sure he had fame. I'd rather just be healthy and have a quiet life.
It's probably not the place or time to debate this but I'm curious about why you feel that way. I'm a low-key guy, so I tend to gravitate towards your position but simultaneously wonder WTF is the point of it all. So if I had the chance to lead the kind of life he did (pitfalls and all), I think I'd do it. We are all born to die...at least his life meant something. (Hope this didn't come across as condescending or morbid....that definitely isn't my intention).
Well, I don't want to derail the thread, but I've seen suffering from disability in my own family, and I want to stay healthy as long as possible.
crzymdups@ 6/5/2016 11:12 AM
NardDogNation wrote:
crzymdups wrote:So sad about Ali.
Didn't realize he had a connection to Allan Houston. Weird for me because I relocated from NYC to Louisville in the past year to help take of my father who has a very similar illness to Ali. I justed visited the Muhammad Ali museum in Louisville and drove by his house a few months ago. Didn't realize Allan Houston grew up on the same street!
Might try to attend the funeral next week, depending on how open they make it.
For what it's worth that is certainly commendable. Dealing with a very similar situation, which has me at my wits end. Thinking about sticking my parent in a retirement home at this point. Anyway, good luck with your Dad, man.
Thanks. Good luck to you as well. It's hard to know what to do in these situations.
Bonn1997@ 6/5/2016 11:47 AM
crzymdups wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
crzymdups wrote:So sad about Ali.
Didn't realize he had a connection to Allan Houston. Weird for me because I relocated from NYC to Louisville in the past year to help take of my father who has a very similar illness to Ali. I justed visited the Muhammad Ali museum in Louisville and drove by his house a few months ago. Didn't realize Allan Houston grew up on the same street!
Might try to attend the funeral next week, depending on how open they make it.
For what it's worth that is certainly commendable. Dealing with a very similar situation, which has me at my wits end. Thinking about sticking my parent in a retirement home at this point. Anyway, good luck with your Dad, man.
Thanks. Good luck to you as well. It's hard to know what to do in these situations.
Sorry to hear that. Good luck to both of you. My dad had a rare neurological disorder for almost 2 decades (spinocerebellar ataxia).
mreinman@ 6/5/2016 4:25 PM
awful life, I don't care how famous and successful he was.
BigDaddyG@ 6/5/2016 5:23 PM
Uptown wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
dacash wrote:i cant remembers the other fighters name but there was a guy who refused to call him ali kept calling him clay and during the fight as he was beating him he kept asking "whats my name?" damn he was amazing
Sonny Liston.
RIP, Muhammed.
Im pretty sure it was Ernie Terrell...and Ali best him up pretty good...thats where the whats my name comed from...
It was Floyd Patterson, a great fighter in his own right.
Malcolm@ 6/5/2016 7:37 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Uptown wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
dacash wrote:i cant remembers the other fighters name but there was a guy who refused to call him ali kept calling him clay and during the fight as he was beating him he kept asking "whats my name?" damn he was amazing
Sonny Liston.
RIP, Muhammed.
Im pretty sure it was Ernie Terrell...and Ali best him up pretty good...thats where the whats my name comed from...
It was Floyd Patterson, a great fighter in his own right.
It was Terrell:
BigDaddyG@ 6/5/2016 7:53 PM
Malcolm wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Uptown wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
dacash wrote:i cant remembers the other fighters name but there was a guy who refused to call him ali kept calling him clay and during the fight as he was beating him he kept asking "whats my name?" damn he was amazing
Sonny Liston.
RIP, Muhammed.
Im pretty sure it was Ernie Terrell...and Ali best him up pretty good...thats where the whats my name comed from...
It was Floyd Patterson, a great fighter in his own right.
FLOYD PATTERSON: Ah, ah, while we were fighting in, ah, Clay had said, maybe once or twice in the earlier rounds, maybe like in the third or fourth, "What's my name?" Ah, my reply was "Cassius." And finally in the latter part of the fight, I say maybe around the ninth, tenth, or eleventh round, and I was really taking a bad beating, suffering. He said, "Now, what's my name?" And my reply was, once or twice I believe I said the same thing. "Cassius Clay and that's what it's always going to be regardless of the results of this fight, Cassius Clay."
