Is there anyway we are able to package Calderone to Memphis? He and gasol played together on the Spanish team. Maybe there is renewed chemistry/interest? Sign and trade package?
babyKnicks wrote:Is there anyway we are able to package Calderone to Memphis? He and gasol played together on the Spanish team. Maybe there is renewed chemistry/interest? Sign and trade package?
I'd be shocked if that were the case, but technically if Memphis accepted that Conley was committed to the Knicks they could do that and the numbers wouldn't have to match because both teams have cap room. I don't know that Memphis would want Calderon at all though.
fishmike wrote:NardDogNation wrote:fishmike wrote:NardDogNation wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:he's the perfect player for the team. If you are going to overpay someone I'd rather it be him than DeRozan (or someone like Beal.... eww) simply because of the position involved. He plays both ends and is high IQ. Also, I remember TFK beating his chest over how terrible Conley was and how he knows basketball and Conley is trash blah blah blah. From a forum enjoyment level that is certainly an additional benefit of a Conley signing.I think Gerald Green would be an excellent compliment to what the other starters would bring. I like that suggestion.
If we move Calderon and O'Quinn, we could theroetically be able to bring in both Courtney Lee (starter) and Gerald Green (off the bench). I'd like that dynamic at the 2-guard spot.
I say keep KOQ. His deal is so cap friendly, he's involved in team stuff (good guy) and I don't think he was utilized well at all last year. He's not a 4, he's a small 5. Too often he played the 4 and he cant guard those guys. Leave him at 5 and its more suited to his strengths... and he's a good shot blocker there also. Yea.. KOQ is a back of the rotation guy but he's young, has some skills, plays hard and has the most cap friendly deal ever. 2 years $8mm? That's a nice depth player to have. His jumper is much better than he showed w/ the Knicks last year.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a KOQ fan but I also think Willie Hernangomez should be a rotation player. The problem, however, is that both he and KOQ are redundant, which makes me inclined to re-invest O'Quinn's salary elsewhere.
And should Willie not be able to perform, I like the idea of a 3 man rotation at the PF-C spots with KP/Lopez/D-Will
They may be redundant, but those are the kinds of guys you want fighting for minutes. Let one prove over the other. Im inclinded to agree on Willy, but can we see him against NBA competition first?
Lou Amundson could fight for those minutes if need be and he'd be a far cheaper alternative. Considering that we'll likely prefer to go small off the bench, I'd tend to gravitate toward this option. It'll be interesting to see how all of this unfolds.
NardDogNation wrote:fishmike wrote:NardDogNation wrote:fishmike wrote:NardDogNation wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:he's the perfect player for the team. If you are going to overpay someone I'd rather it be him than DeRozan (or someone like Beal.... eww) simply because of the position involved. He plays both ends and is high IQ. Also, I remember TFK beating his chest over how terrible Conley was and how he knows basketball and Conley is trash blah blah blah. From a forum enjoyment level that is certainly an additional benefit of a Conley signing.I think Gerald Green would be an excellent compliment to what the other starters would bring. I like that suggestion.
If we move Calderon and O'Quinn, we could theroetically be able to bring in both Courtney Lee (starter) and Gerald Green (off the bench). I'd like that dynamic at the 2-guard spot.
I say keep KOQ. His deal is so cap friendly, he's involved in team stuff (good guy) and I don't think he was utilized well at all last year. He's not a 4, he's a small 5. Too often he played the 4 and he cant guard those guys. Leave him at 5 and its more suited to his strengths... and he's a good shot blocker there also. Yea.. KOQ is a back of the rotation guy but he's young, has some skills, plays hard and has the most cap friendly deal ever. 2 years $8mm? That's a nice depth player to have. His jumper is much better than he showed w/ the Knicks last year.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a KOQ fan but I also think Willie Hernangomez should be a rotation player. The problem, however, is that both he and KOQ are redundant, which makes me inclined to re-invest O'Quinn's salary elsewhere.
And should Willie not be able to perform, I like the idea of a 3 man rotation at the PF-C spots with KP/Lopez/D-Will
They may be redundant, but those are the kinds of guys you want fighting for minutes. Let one prove over the other. Im inclinded to agree on Willy, but can we see him against NBA competition first?
Lou Amundson could fight for those minutes if need be and he'd be a far cheaper alternative. Considering that we'll likely prefer to go small off the bench, I'd tend to gravitate toward this option. It'll be interesting to see how all of this unfolds.
I think Amundson is done. They will probably go with a younger option just cuz it makes more sense. Every year you get younger versions of Amundson coming out as UDFA's. Low skill, Athletic, hustle guys are not hard to find.
crzymdups wrote:EnySpree wrote:My issue is overpaying for a declining player. I don't want to do that. Plus I don't think Conley is that good to blow our cap on. The Derrick Rose idea is better because of the commitment. The Hornacek comment says it all though. The Knicks are looking to add an established player at point guard.
I understand the injury worries, but statistically, his numbers have been very consistent the past three seasons.
He's 28 - same age as Westbrook and Curry. He's played very very well against both those guys in the playoffs.
I don't think we should be too worried about a contract that would make him a Knick from age 28 to 32.
Even though Lowry is a better player, if you compare the contracts as a percentage of the cap, Conley is about a 16 million dollar a year play that you'd be paying 23 and would come with the risk of whatever his injuries are.
So you're looking at a 7 million dollar a year overpay, speaking very roughly. At that rate I'd kind of understand it if Conley was willing to move even though I'd rather save the money and take a shot at Westbrook next off-season.
