Knicks · Am I the only one impressed with Ty Lue? (page 2)
NYKBocker@ 6/20/2016 9:58 AM
Was not impressed. I thought he played into Kerr's plans in the 1st half when he played small instead of having Love and/or Thompson in there. Using Mo Williams was not good.
fishmike@ 6/20/2016 9:58 AM
franco12 wrote:
tj23 wrote:They still had so many miscommunications and poor offensive sets. LBJ and Kyrie were just too good and GS just didn't take advantage. Steph hasn't been himself for a while.
I don't know if it was the Cavs playing defense better or what - but I think this was key- Steph had a very bad series.
Steph missed shots, OKC gave Cle the blueprint for slowing down their offence and Lebron and Kyrie were unstoppable.
If you watched this series it was that simple. One thing about Lue was he was cool (which funny enough he credits Phil Jackson's influence). Aside from that this series simple came down to which team played better.
knicks1248@ 6/20/2016 10:06 AM
Kerr got out coach, he went THE MDA, Woodson route on the switching every time on defense. Lue played small like kerr wanted him to, but Labron ate that defense alive.
The splash brothers turned into the into the sprinkle brothers..lol
NYKBocker@ 6/20/2016 10:21 AM
knicks1248 wrote:Kerr got out coach, he went THE MDA, Woodson route on the switching every time on defense. Lue played small like kerr wanted him to, but Labron ate that defense alive.
The splash brothers turned into the into the sprinkle brothers..lol
That was their defensive philosophy the whole year and last year. The problem now is that Iggy was hurt and Bogut was out. Barnes also had a bad string games 4 to 7 in the finals.
callmened@ 6/20/2016 10:24 AM
i was impressed. he was being clowned early in the series. then he made some very good adjustments. he also had some great "after TO" plays. is he a great coach - NO but i he did impressed me
mreinman@ 6/20/2016 11:23 AM
smackeddog wrote:
mreinman wrote:nobody gave/gives him credit but I think he did a great job and much better than blatt.
Nice attempt to deflect attention from the fact you were wrong all season about the way you have to play basketball
you mean me wanting to move away from traditional triangle to a modern spread offense? Yeah ... i see your point.
mreinman@ 6/20/2016 11:27 AM
callmened wrote:i was impressed. he was being clowned early in the series. then he made some very good adjustments. he also had some great "after TO" plays. is he a great coach - NO but i he did impressed me
lets also count the rest of the playoffs where the cavs looked like an unstoppable machine.
WaltLongmire@ 6/20/2016 12:09 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Kerr got out coach, he went THE MDA, Woodson route on the switching every time on defense. Lue played small like kerr wanted him to, but Labron ate that defense alive.
The splash brothers turned into the into the sprinkle brothers..lol
That was their defensive philosophy the whole year and last year. The problem now is that Iggy was hurt and Bogut was out. Barnes also had a bad string games 4 to 7 in the finals.
From what I heard on the radio this morning- I think it was Antonio Davis- all teams are switching on D (and so do the Cavs, witness the Love on Curry pairing we have talked about here)...I guess it depends on who is doing the switching and what the offensive player does with the switched defender.
Chandler@ 6/20/2016 12:21 PM
i was happy for Ty. Seems like a nice guy, and he certainly did his best
Don't know if I was impressed or not, because I don't really know what he was responsible for (sorry can't help but be jaundiced when Lebron is in the huddle).
I thought this series was determined more by defense, than by offense. If Lue is responsible for that, then hats off to him!
smackeddog@ 6/20/2016 12:31 PM
mreinman wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
mreinman wrote:nobody gave/gives him credit but I think he did a great job and much better than blatt.
Nice attempt to deflect attention from the fact you were wrong all season about the way you have to play basketball
you mean me wanting to move away from traditional triangle to a modern spread offense? Yeah ... i see your point.
Ha, I'm sure you argued more than that! I think this is the first time in my nba watching history that the team I was rooting for actually won. I think it's interesting because the cavs are a really clumsy fitting team- big achievement by LeBron. Did anyone seen Jr and shump as nba champions? Very unexpected result all round
DrAlphaeus@ 6/20/2016 2:10 PM
Chandler wrote:i was happy for Ty. Seems like a nice guy, and he certainly did his best
Don't know if I was impressed or not, because I don't really know what he was responsible for (sorry can't help but be jaundiced when Lebron is in the huddle).
I thought this series was determined more by defense, than by offense. If Lue is responsible for that, then hats off to him!
+1 ... the defense was inspired, what the championship is all about to me. I had to remind myself of Lue as a player and watched this video of him guarding AI: he was relentless in this game!
And of course, that step over! Funny how the storylines intersect. Also Lue lead all players in 3Pt% 66% in that 2001 Finals.
franco12@ 6/20/2016 3:48 PM
fishmike wrote:
franco12 wrote:
tj23 wrote:They still had so many miscommunications and poor offensive sets. LBJ and Kyrie were just too good and GS just didn't take advantage. Steph hasn't been himself for a while.
I don't know if it was the Cavs playing defense better or what - but I think this was key- Steph had a very bad series.
Steph missed shots, OKC gave Cle the blueprint for slowing down their offence and Lebron and Kyrie were unstoppable.
If you watched this series it was that simple. One thing about Lue was he was cool (which funny enough he credits Phil Jackson's influence). Aside from that this series simple came down to which team played better.
Curry is a great player and I'm not going to tell him to change, but!
Seriously, when your shot is not falling, at some point, you need points and you need to attack the basket and make refs give you FTs and get in closer and score 2's.
fishmike@ 6/20/2016 3:56 PM
franco12 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
franco12 wrote:
tj23 wrote:They still had so many miscommunications and poor offensive sets. LBJ and Kyrie were just too good and GS just didn't take advantage. Steph hasn't been himself for a while.
I don't know if it was the Cavs playing defense better or what - but I think this was key- Steph had a very bad series.
Steph missed shots, OKC gave Cle the blueprint for slowing down their offence and Lebron and Kyrie were unstoppable.
If you watched this series it was that simple. One thing about Lue was he was cool (which funny enough he credits Phil Jackson's influence). Aside from that this series simple came down to which team played better.
Curry is a great player and I'm not going to tell him to change, but!
Seriously, when your shot is not falling, at some point, you need points and you need to attack the basket and make refs give you FTs and get in closer and score 2's.
sure, but that's not his game and why Lebron is better. In game 5 when he was shooting the lights out (Lebron) he couldn't be stopped. When his jumper isn't like that (its good but not that good) he can attack the basket better than anyone in the league.
newyorker4ever@ 6/20/2016 4:14 PM
mreinman wrote:
callmened wrote:i was impressed. he was being clowned early in the series. then he made some very good adjustments. he also had some great "after TO" plays. is he a great coach - NO but i he did impressed me
lets also count the rest of the playoffs where the cavs looked like an unstoppable machine.
You mean against Detroit and Atlanta?? How did the Cavs ever beat those two dynasty teams?? lol
CrushAlot@ 6/20/2016 4:42 PM
franco12 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
franco12 wrote:
tj23 wrote:They still had so many miscommunications and poor offensive sets. LBJ and Kyrie were just too good and GS just didn't take advantage. Steph hasn't been himself for a while.
I don't know if it was the Cavs playing defense better or what - but I think this was key- Steph had a very bad series.
Steph missed shots, OKC gave Cle the blueprint for slowing down their offence and Lebron and Kyrie were unstoppable.
If you watched this series it was that simple. One thing about Lue was he was cool (which funny enough he credits Phil Jackson's influence). Aside from that this series simple came down to which team played better.
Curry is a great player and I'm not going to tell him to change, but!
Seriously, when your shot is not falling, at some point, you need points and you need to attack the basket and make refs give you FTs and get in closer and score 2's.
I agree. Also that behind the back pass that was a turnover has no place being thrown in the second half of a game 7 for the title.
WaltLongmire@ 6/20/2016 4:53 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
franco12 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
franco12 wrote:
tj23 wrote:They still had so many miscommunications and poor offensive sets. LBJ and Kyrie were just too good and GS just didn't take advantage. Steph hasn't been himself for a while.
I don't know if it was the Cavs playing defense better or what - but I think this was key- Steph had a very bad series.
Steph missed shots, OKC gave Cle the blueprint for slowing down their offence and Lebron and Kyrie were unstoppable.
If you watched this series it was that simple. One thing about Lue was he was cool (which funny enough he credits Phil Jackson's influence). Aside from that this series simple came down to which team played better.
Curry is a great player and I'm not going to tell him to change, but!
Seriously, when your shot is not falling, at some point, you need points and you need to attack the basket and make refs give you FTs and get in closer and score 2's.
I agree. Also that behind the back pass that was a turnover has no place being thrown in the second half of a game 7 for the title.
I commented on that pass in the playoff thread...arguably the most ill-advised and poorly executed pass I've ever seen in a playoff game, and even if completed it was not going to help develop the play any differently than a simple bounce pass.
It is the kind of pass you might make if you were up by 30 late in the 3rd quarter...and after causing the turnover the coach would have called a time out and taken the offending player out of the game.
What was he thinking?
CrushAlot@ 6/20/2016 5:29 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
franco12 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
franco12 wrote:
tj23 wrote:They still had so many miscommunications and poor offensive sets. LBJ and Kyrie were just too good and GS just didn't take advantage. Steph hasn't been himself for a while.
I don't know if it was the Cavs playing defense better or what - but I think this was key- Steph had a very bad series.
Steph missed shots, OKC gave Cle the blueprint for slowing down their offence and Lebron and Kyrie were unstoppable.
If you watched this series it was that simple. One thing about Lue was he was cool (which funny enough he credits Phil Jackson's influence). Aside from that this series simple came down to which team played better.
Curry is a great player and I'm not going to tell him to change, but!
Seriously, when your shot is not falling, at some point, you need points and you need to attack the basket and make refs give you FTs and get in closer and score 2's.
I agree. Also that behind the back pass that was a turnover has no place being thrown in the second half of a game 7 for the title.
I commented on that pass in the playoff thread...arguably the most ill-advised and poorly executed pass I've ever seen in a playoff game, and even if completed it was not going to help develop the play any differently than a simple bounce pass.
It is the kind of pass you might make if you were up by 30 late in the 3rd quarter...and after causing the turnover the coach would have called a time out and taken the offending player out of the game.
What was he thinking?
This just came up on my twitter.
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Up until there was timeout (cant remember who called it) in the 4th, there was a long stretch where they looked totally lost on offense. For 3-4 trips down the floor, LeBron was out beyond the arc dribbling the ball, eating up the clock, waiting for someone to set a high screen to free him up, to take it to the rim.
LeBron kept having to wave someone over to get the help he needed. Made they offense sputter. If Lue hadn't made an adjustment, they could have lost the series right there. Cavs came out of the timeout and LeBron initiated the offense almost immediately.
Im impressed most of all that Lue (with LeBron's help) kept their eyes on the prize. Great job for a rookie coach, but he still needs more seasoning IMO to be a first rate tactician. Cant beat that start though, wow.
NumberTwoPencil@ 6/20/2016 10:27 PM
I thought he did a better job than Kerr when they played GS. Part of it seemed to be that he changed his plans some depending on what was going on in the game, Kerr seemed to stick to his guns.
HofstraBBall@ 6/20/2016 10:35 PM
Nalod wrote:Few schools of thought. Last year Love never sniffed the finals and Kyrie went down in game one, a game that went to over time and the Cav's lost. They won the next two and had GSW down 2-1. Lebron was amazing last year which is lost on many because they did not win it. Perhaps Kyrie plays, and Cav's win the series last year? Then Blatt is Kerr. But fate has it and Lebron, who like most GOAT's are diva's and wanted his guy. GSW validates its Chip with a 73 win season that was off the charts. They lost only 3 games all season long at home. And being up 3-1, loses its last two at home. One might say Cav's are and have been the better team face to face if healthy. Splash brothers lived and died by the three.
IM impressed with Cav's defense, which made the Splash brothers less effective. They had a bad series cuz OKC wore them down, as did the the cavs. This shyt is not easy.