Knicks · Why no threads taking shots at Kerr?? (page 2)

Remember GSW had a perfect storm that parted the sea last year creating a great opportunity which they executed to near perfection defying the odds. What phil spoke of then was in those terms.
Kerr's team responds by winning 73 games and within a game of repeat.

Thus, I don't think you highly get on him. Hindsight will tell you a lot of things he should have done. Also, he relies on his players to adjust, which is straight out of phils playbook. Sure we can say what he should have done, but its not that they lost the game, they got beat. They went for history but did not have the last bit to put them over the top. This was the sociopath will that Jordan had in willing his team to victory in his tenure.
Lebron has different approach, but a very strong resolve never the less.

So Kerr gets a pass, why? He has done a great job, near perfect up until then!

One thing that had me scratching my head is that Golden State turned the ball over 4 straight times trying to get it into Anderson Varejo. I'm thinking WTF are they thinking. Varejo is only good for flopping.

JesseDark wrote:One thing that had me scratching my head is that Golden State turned the ball over 4 straight times trying to get it into Anderson Varejo. I'm thinking WTF are they thinking. Varejo is only good for flopping.

INside out game, opens up shots on the parameter. Varejo is usually dependable with the ball. Cav's slapped at the ball and created a lot of steals. Defense was really quite good for Cav's.
From what I saw, Cav's defense held GSW. Perception that GSW failed to execute is over done, cav's beat them.

Yeah, those Varejão plays in the last finals game were puzzling. Why? Yeah, sure, Bogut's out, Ezeli's still half-injured and under experienced, Barnes is spaced out but . . . Varejão? I can see, maybe, a play setting him up for a mid-range shot or something but, ahem, what made Kerr (or anyone else) think that Varejão might be effective in the paint against Cleveland? Maybe as a last resort but, IIRC, those seemed like plays called from the bench. Puzzling. I'd guess the odds are better with Curry taking a half-court shot and Varejão trying to rebound if he misses.

Nalod wrote:

JesseDark wrote:One thing that had me scratching my head is that Golden State turned the ball over 4 straight times trying to get it into Anderson Varejo. I'm thinking WTF are they thinking. Varejo is only good for flopping.

INside out game, opens up shots on the parameter. Varejo is usually dependable with the ball. Cav's slapped at the ball and created a lot of steals. Defense was really quite good for Cav's.
From what I saw, Cav's defense held GSW. Perception that GSW failed to execute is over done, cav's beat them.

If a team is stopping your execution, you obviously have to adapt in some way.

The issue comes down to whether guys in a free-flow no set play offense have some designed strategies or plays to counter what an opponent might do in certain situations.

The Kerr/GS response was to take more 3's, which seemed to play into how the Cavs were playing D.

WaltLongmire wrote:

Nalod wrote:

JesseDark wrote:One thing that had me scratching my head is that Golden State turned the ball over 4 straight times trying to get it into Anderson Varejo. I'm thinking WTF are they thinking. Varejo is only good for flopping.

INside out game, opens up shots on the parameter. Varejo is usually dependable with the ball. Cav's slapped at the ball and created a lot of steals. Defense was really quite good for Cav's.
From what I saw, Cav's defense held GSW. Perception that GSW failed to execute is over done, cav's beat them.

If a team is stopping your execution, you obviously have to adapt in some way.

The issue comes down to whether guys in a free-flow no set play offense have some designed strategies or plays to counter what an opponent might do in certain situations.

The Kerr/GS response was to take more 3's, which seemed to play into how the Cavs were playing D.

the 3's were not the problem as everyone keeps saying ... they shot 36.6 pct from 3 last game. The main issue is that needed more of an inside out game and they could not get in. Clevelands interior dee was great and hats off to TThompson who was great and even freakin klove showed up on dee. I actually saw TT matched up on curry by design a few times.

mreinman wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

Nalod wrote:

JesseDark wrote:One thing that had me scratching my head is that Golden State turned the ball over 4 straight times trying to get it into Anderson Varejo. I'm thinking WTF are they thinking. Varejo is only good for flopping.

INside out game, opens up shots on the parameter. Varejo is usually dependable with the ball. Cav's slapped at the ball and created a lot of steals. Defense was really quite good for Cav's.
From what I saw, Cav's defense held GSW. Perception that GSW failed to execute is over done, cav's beat them.

If a team is stopping your execution, you obviously have to adapt in some way.

The issue comes down to whether guys in a free-flow no set play offense have some designed strategies or plays to counter what an opponent might do in certain situations.

The Kerr/GS response was to take more 3's, which seemed to play into how the Cavs were playing D.

the 3's were not the problem as everyone keeps saying ... they shot 36.6 pct from 3 last game. The main issue is that needed more of an inside out game and they could not get in. Clevelands interior dee was great and hats off to TThompson who was great and even freakin klove showed up on dee. I actually saw TT matched up on curry by design a few times.

Curry had to go to the basket on some of those switches, but he usually settled for the 3. They got away with it in the first half as far as shooting %, but were horrible in the second half.

Given your love of stats, you also know that getting to the foul line can be a great benefit, and the Cavs almost doubled the GS total in game 7.

The 3's are a problem when you're not making them, but continue to take them, praying that the law of averages kicks in at some point and you start hitting them.

WaltLongmire wrote:

mreinman wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

Nalod wrote:

JesseDark wrote:One thing that had me scratching my head is that Golden State turned the ball over 4 straight times trying to get it into Anderson Varejo. I'm thinking WTF are they thinking. Varejo is only good for flopping.

INside out game, opens up shots on the parameter. Varejo is usually dependable with the ball. Cav's slapped at the ball and created a lot of steals. Defense was really quite good for Cav's.
From what I saw, Cav's defense held GSW. Perception that GSW failed to execute is over done, cav's beat them.

If a team is stopping your execution, you obviously have to adapt in some way.

The issue comes down to whether guys in a free-flow no set play offense have some designed strategies or plays to counter what an opponent might do in certain situations.

The Kerr/GS response was to take more 3's, which seemed to play into how the Cavs were playing D.

the 3's were not the problem as everyone keeps saying ... they shot 36.6 pct from 3 last game. The main issue is that needed more of an inside out game and they could not get in. Clevelands interior dee was great and hats off to TThompson who was great and even freakin klove showed up on dee. I actually saw TT matched up on curry by design a few times.

Curry had to go to the basket on some of those switches, but he usually settled for the 3. They got away with it in the first half as far as shooting %, but were horrible in the second half.

Given your love of stats, you also know that getting to the foul line can be a great benefit, and the Cavs almost doubled the GS total in game 7.

The 3's are a problem when you're not making them, but continue to take them, praying that the law of averages kicks in at some point and you start hitting them.

I am not absolving GS ... especially curry ... he looked hurt but he dropped a bit in my eyes. The needed much more penetration from Iggy and Barnes and did not get much from them ... barnes has been downright awful.

GS played into Clevelands hand and cleveland had the much more unstoppable player.

And again, cleveland did a great job and taking away the lane.

mreinman wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

mreinman wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

Nalod wrote:

JesseDark wrote:One thing that had me scratching my head is that Golden State turned the ball over 4 straight times trying to get it into Anderson Varejo. I'm thinking WTF are they thinking. Varejo is only good for flopping.

INside out game, opens up shots on the parameter. Varejo is usually dependable with the ball. Cav's slapped at the ball and created a lot of steals. Defense was really quite good for Cav's.
From what I saw, Cav's defense held GSW. Perception that GSW failed to execute is over done, cav's beat them.

If a team is stopping your execution, you obviously have to adapt in some way.

The issue comes down to whether guys in a free-flow no set play offense have some designed strategies or plays to counter what an opponent might do in certain situations.

The Kerr/GS response was to take more 3's, which seemed to play into how the Cavs were playing D.

the 3's were not the problem as everyone keeps saying ... they shot 36.6 pct from 3 last game. The main issue is that needed more of an inside out game and they could not get in. Clevelands interior dee was great and hats off to TThompson who was great and even freakin klove showed up on dee. I actually saw TT matched up on curry by design a few times.

Curry had to go to the basket on some of those switches, but he usually settled for the 3. They got away with it in the first half as far as shooting %, but were horrible in the second half.

Given your love of stats, you also know that getting to the foul line can be a great benefit, and the Cavs almost doubled the GS total in game 7.

The 3's are a problem when you're not making them, but continue to take them, praying that the law of averages kicks in at some point and you start hitting them.

I am not absolving GS ... especially curry ... he looked hurt but he dropped a bit in my eyes. The needed much more penetration from Iggy and Barnes and did not get much from them ... barnes has been downright awful.

GS played into Clevelands hand and cleveland had the much more unstoppable player.

And again, cleveland did a great job and taking away the lane.

Can't forget Irving...no rest for the weary- Curry had to expend a lot of energy on him that might have been used otherwise.

Would still like to see him pass more, but he was pretty unbelievable on offense. Curry "dropped" and Irving rose.

Lost in all of this was a game by Green that would have been remembered as one of the great big game performances if things had gone a bit differently.

WaltLongmire wrote:

mreinman wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

mreinman wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

Nalod wrote:

JesseDark wrote:One thing that had me scratching my head is that Golden State turned the ball over 4 straight times trying to get it into Anderson Varejo. I'm thinking WTF are they thinking. Varejo is only good for flopping.

INside out game, opens up shots on the parameter. Varejo is usually dependable with the ball. Cav's slapped at the ball and created a lot of steals. Defense was really quite good for Cav's.
From what I saw, Cav's defense held GSW. Perception that GSW failed to execute is over done, cav's beat them.

If a team is stopping your execution, you obviously have to adapt in some way.

The issue comes down to whether guys in a free-flow no set play offense have some designed strategies or plays to counter what an opponent might do in certain situations.

The Kerr/GS response was to take more 3's, which seemed to play into how the Cavs were playing D.

the 3's were not the problem as everyone keeps saying ... they shot 36.6 pct from 3 last game. The main issue is that needed more of an inside out game and they could not get in. Clevelands interior dee was great and hats off to TThompson who was great and even freakin klove showed up on dee. I actually saw TT matched up on curry by design a few times.

Curry had to go to the basket on some of those switches, but he usually settled for the 3. They got away with it in the first half as far as shooting %, but were horrible in the second half.

Given your love of stats, you also know that getting to the foul line can be a great benefit, and the Cavs almost doubled the GS total in game 7.

The 3's are a problem when you're not making them, but continue to take them, praying that the law of averages kicks in at some point and you start hitting them.

I am not absolving GS ... especially curry ... he looked hurt but he dropped a bit in my eyes. The needed much more penetration from Iggy and Barnes and did not get much from them ... barnes has been downright awful.

GS played into Clevelands hand and cleveland had the much more unstoppable player.

And again, cleveland did a great job and taking away the lane.

Can't forget Irving...no rest for the weary- Curry had to expend a lot of energy on him that might have been used otherwise.

Would still like to see him pass more, but he was pretty unbelievable on offense. Curry "dropped" and Irving rose.

Lost in all of this was a game by Green that would have been remembered as one of the great big game performances if things had gone a bit differently.

Irving was a freak but I don't buy it completely, I just think that he was hot. I personally don't like or believe in that brand of 1 v 1 basketball but Curry certainly had his hands full with him.

Dray was superb but no one cares now since he possibly lost them the series by getting tossed. Great underrated player though.