Knicks · KD signs with Warriors (page 10)

earthmansurfer @ 7/4/2016 4:08 PM
This is just weird. Basically, OKC was 1 game from winning, up 3-1 and Durant choked from that point on basically. And then he goes to that team.
Sorry, I don't have respect for that. He was in a great situation, they showed they could have won had he not choked (Russell too from what I remember).

Anyway, good news for us I think as FA's see what it will take and at least we have something to attract them with next season, a base.

WaltLongmire @ 7/4/2016 4:09 PM
Welpee wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:Bill Walton having a field day on Twitter:


...says the guy who joined Bird, McHale, Parish, and DJ to get another ring.

Somewhat of a broken down former star at that point...no? He had also won a ring on his own...

and then there is this:

September 6, 1985: Traded by the Los Angeles Clippers to the Boston Celtics for Cedric Maxwell and a 1986 1st round draft pick (Arvydas Sabonis was later selected).

The team he went so as a FA- the San Diego Clippers, had been 43-39 the year before and not made the playoffs.

ESOMKnicks @ 7/4/2016 4:10 PM
meloanyk wrote:Whoever puts NYK back into the finals will be KING like LeBron was in Cleveland. Thought Jackson would negate the Dolan factor but Jax does not appear to have wide connections or any magical allure. Hoping third time is a charm with Westbrook

Maybe he can cajole MJ, Pippen, Kobe and Shaq out of retirement.

markvmc @ 7/4/2016 4:14 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
Welpee wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:Bill Walton having a field day on Twitter:


...says the guy who joined Bird, McHale, Parish, and DJ to get another ring.

Somewhat of a broken down former star at that point...no? He had also won a ring on his own...

and then there is this:

September 6, 1985: Traded by the Los Angeles Clippers to the Boston Celtics for Cedric Maxwell and a 1986 1st round draft pick (Arvydas Sabonis was later selected).

The team he went so as a FA- the San Diego Clippers, had been 43-39 the year before and not made the playoffs.

I'm confused...is NotBillWalton Bill Walton?

WaltLongmire @ 7/4/2016 4:24 PM
markvmc wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
Welpee wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:Bill Walton having a field day on Twitter:


...says the guy who joined Bird, McHale, Parish, and DJ to get another ring.

Somewhat of a broken down former star at that point...no? He had also won a ring on his own...

and then there is this:

September 6, 1985: Traded by the Los Angeles Clippers to the Boston Celtics for Cedric Maxwell and a 1986 1st round draft pick (Arvydas Sabonis was later selected).

The team he went so as a FA- the San Diego Clippers, had been 43-39 the year before and not made the playoffs.

I'm confused...is NotBillWalton Bill Walton?

Yeah...you know his sense of humor.

Actually...it's labeled as a "parody."

This is Walton's real twitter account...much less interesting.

https://twitter.com/BillWalton?ref_src=t...


They were just too funny not to throw out there.

HofstraBBall @ 7/4/2016 4:35 PM
When Ibaka left, thought the chance of KD leaving increased just a bit. But never really believed he would leave. Westbrook definately leaving must have been discussed between the two. Or KD just did not like playing with Westbrook. See no other explanation. Just crazy. Guess if you are going to switch squads, might as well take the chance to move to a team that, if they stay togethwr, will be the winningest in history. Will be easy rooting against them. Well... at least he didn't go to the Celtics. Hate to see them get back on top of the hill.
WOODMANnYk @ 7/4/2016 4:37 PM
Going back to the KD signing.. Golden state will be thin on the bench and I think the reason why they won 73 games was their deep bench. Now it looks like barnes, bogut, ezeli, barbs a will be gone since they signed Durant... This team will score a lot every game but there are still question marks..
Caseloads @ 7/4/2016 5:17 PM
Clean wrote:
smackeddog wrote:I hope we can somehow move KOQ to make space for Ezeli- pipe dream but would be a nice backup

No thanks that guy sucks. He had all the opportunity in the world after Bogut got injured and he stunk up the joint. He did not even look like he belonged on the court.


you are right. if festus could play, they would have had a second championship.
mreinman @ 7/4/2016 6:08 PM
puke ... ugly part of sports. Big zero props if KD wins now.
DJMUSIC @ 7/4/2016 8:18 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:It seems like a sell out to me going to a team that can win it all without him. I know he's KD and one of the greats but....meh.
sell out? The dude wants to win so i have no issue. As a knick fan i would have loved him here but there was no chance in hell he would win here

Guy's/men like KD and even LBJ would NEVER come to knicks even if NY had better built team

Some guys dont have Guts, no glory for NewYork
I don't want them kind of guys , At least LBJ paid his dues (burnt jersey, Cavs early yrs)

I dont want guys in NY whom can care less for NY

We got few guys in here, Rose,Noah, ect.. now Jennings like Melo
whom seem to LOVE NY

period
that's what I'm talking about!


We'll win when we get men in here whom can play Hoops, before the contract.

Starks, Mase, Ew, Oak a bunch of NY former knicks whom with pride took pride
of NewYork City.

Rest of NBA is sissy ...seems cause NY brings pressure
GOOOOOD

We'll have our day in the sun
one day & hang in there Knicks fans! Best is yet to come one day near future..

crzymdups @ 7/4/2016 9:10 PM
Ouch - OKC was confident that if KD agreed that Horford was coming, too

Welpee @ 7/4/2016 9:13 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
Welpee wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:Bill Walton having a field day on Twitter:


...says the guy who joined Bird, McHale, Parish, and DJ to get another ring.

Somewhat of a broken down former star at that point...no? He had also won a ring on his own...

and then there is this:

September 6, 1985: Traded by the Los Angeles Clippers to the Boston Celtics for Cedric Maxwell and a 1986 1st round draft pick (Arvydas Sabonis was later selected).

The team he went so as a FA- the San Diego Clippers, had been 43-39 the year before and not made the playoffs.

Walton forced his way out of San Diego to go a championship contending team, specifically wanting to go to either the Lakers or the Celtics.
crzymdups @ 7/4/2016 10:12 PM
Not for nothing - but I think this move not only casts some shade on KD... but also the Warriors. Would the 1996 Bulls have traded Rodman and waived Kukoc so they could add Barkley? The 2015-6 Warriors have ZERO claim left as the greatest team of all time. Exposed in the Finals, went running for help in FA. Cheap cheap cheap. I honestly don't think it's a slam dunk they win... but I'll have a hard time respecting them if they do. Worse than the Heatles.
DrAlphaeus @ 7/4/2016 10:33 PM
I was shocked when I overheard someone talking about this at a restaurant at noon. Just read this article. Man, it's just surprising for some reason and I'm not sure why. I don't want to dis the dude for doing it, that seems weird. Yet, it does feel like WWF.

http://theundefeated.com/features/streng...

‘Strength In Numbers’ convinced Kevin Durant to join Warriors

Full-court press by Curry, Thompson, Green, Iguodala, Kerr and Jerry West sealed the deal

BY MARC J. SPEARS

Kevin Durant didn’t say a lot during his meeting with the Golden State Warriors last Friday. The NBA’s most coveted free agent, however, did have one particular question that he posed to the Warriors’ core of Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green and Andre Iguodala while at a mansion in The Hamptons:

Could he mess up the Warriors’ team camaraderie and chemistry?

The very well-prepared Warriors collectively answered a question with a question and their team motto in mind.

“We asked him how many championships do you think we can win with the way the team is now? How many championships can you win without us? How many do you think we can win together?” Green told The Undefeated.

The Warriors’ motto through their 2015 NBA championship run and their devastating loss in the 2016 NBA Finals to LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers was “Strength In Numbers.” And it’s that mentality that certainly played a role in Durant offering early fireworks to the NBA world on the Fourth of July with news that he would be departing the Oklahoma City Thunder to join the already supremely talented Warriors.

The Warriors not only brought their core four players, but coach Steve Kerr, general manager Bob Myers, owner Joe Lacob and assistant general manager Kirk Lacob, too, to talk to Durant. Having been USA Basketball teammates with him, Curry and Iguodala were most confident and comfortable speaking to Durant from a players’ standpoint about what life as a Warrior would be like on the court for him. Green also said they sold Durant on “culture, dynasty and style of play” with a team that won an NBA-record 73 games last season without him.

It must not be forgotten that Durant strongly had previously said winning was most important to him in his free-agency decision and a friend said he had previously inquired about Bay Area life. The Warriors also told the 2014 NBA MVP that open 3-pointers were awaiting him in Golden State, along with all their other weapons. They added that unselfishness and a will to not just win, but to win championships, was waiting for him in Oakland, California, too. With Durant, perhaps these already score-thirsty Warriors could be even more imposing than Magic Johnson’s “Showtime Lakers” or Michael Jordan with the Chicago Bulls.

“We told him he didn’t have to change who he is. He doesn’t have to change how he plays. We will get him shots. If he shot 40 percent from 3-point line contested, how would he shoot wide open?” Green said.

The Warriors’ meeting with Durant lasted about two hours with the “main pitch” being winning championships together, Green said. Green added that he felt very good about that meeting since the vibe in the room was perfect with the right mix of voices. Even so, Curry apparently felt it necessary to send Durant a message hours after the meeting Friday night to reassure him about his commitment to “Strength In Numbers” and unselfishness.

According to a person who saw the text messages, Curry told Durant in a text message that he could care less about who is the face of the franchise, who gets the most recognition or who sells the most shoes (Curry is with Under Armor, Durant with Nike). The two-time NBA MVP also told Durant that if Durant won the MVP award again he would be in the front row of the press conference clapping for him. In closing, Curry’s message to Durant was that all he truly cared about was winning championships and he’d like to do that as his teammate.

To push the Warriors’ sales pitch even further, Durant got a phone call from Hall of Famer and Warriors consultant Jerry West on Saturday. West had previously convinced the now retired NBA superstar Shaquille O’Neal to join the Los Angeles Lakers in 1996. According to ESPN’s Chris Broussard, West told Durant that he would be the perfect fit for the Warriors at small forward and that West’s own 1-7 record in the NBA Finals with the Lakers still haunts him. Durant lost his lone NBA Finals appearance in 2012.

When asked what was the key to landing Durant, one high-ranking Warriors executive said: “Jerry West … Everyone telling [Durant] he’d be on equal footing. No stars.”

Green woke up on the Fourth of July liking the Warriors’ chances, but also would not have been surprised if Durant returned to Oklahoma City. Green, however, got the stunning word about Durant’s decision just “20 seconds before it went public” via a text message from his new teammate’s childhood friend and business manager, Charlie Bell. Less than a minute later, Green’s phone was wildly abuzz with congratulatory text messages.

The “Strength In Numbers” sales pitch worked as the Warriors’ immediately became next season’s championship favorite with Durant saying yes to their “brotherhood.”

“I’m excited about the opportunity to add one of the best players in the world to our team and welcome him to our brotherhood,” Green said. “This will be some of the best times of our lives and I’m looking forward to it.”
---
Marc J. Spears is the senior NBA writer for The Undefeated. He used to be able to dunk on you, but he hasn’t been able to in years and his knees still hurt.

DJMUSIC @ 7/4/2016 10:35 PM
crzymdups wrote:Not for nothing - but I think this move not only casts some shade on KD... but also the Warriors. Would the 1996 Bulls have traded Rodman and waived Kukoc so they could add Barkley? The 2015-6 Warriors have ZERO claim left as the greatest team of all time. Exposed in the Finals, went running for help in FA. Cheap cheap cheap. I honestly don't think it's a slam dunk they win... but I'll have a hard time respecting them if they do. Worse than the Heatles.

<< ZERO claim left as the greatest team of all time
>>

Gotta agree on that, Warriors were fun to watch as a Knick fan here
however after 1st gold NBA ring they got quite co_cky, full of themselves
taunted LBJ when CAVs 1-3 down and now they secretly begged and began KD process
recruiting long before 7/1

Believe that player
KD has lost my respect,
he ain't winning there & if KD did,
There is 1 guy whom will be the reason/star is Steph Curry.

Only 1 "The man" /per team.

KD isn't going to be difference maker on a
team with already Young EGO's like Steph/Klay and Drammond.

Team looks GREAT on paper to reach West-Semi's NBA playoffs
again but I do not feel the Warriors team needing to GEL will
have impact paper says.

Bunch of superstars + ego = YOUR BEING GUNNED FOR BY NBA FOES!
good look, you don't win that Way!! this join up Sh_t.

Say all you want of Carmelo Anthony ..
he would not have signed to CLEVE CAVs cause he rather BEAT his friend LBJ than play alongside the superstar LBJ
THAT has to be RESPECTED! Old school!

Nalod @ 7/4/2016 10:43 PM
I heard the meeting in the hamptons had draymond green for two hours stared at KD's balls.
When KD said, "WTF Dray, whats up?", Green said, all wild eyed:

"We play, your nuts gonna be up in throat!, So either you join us, and your nuts is safe, or, clear your throat bro!"

Welpee @ 7/4/2016 10:48 PM
DJMUSIC wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Not for nothing - but I think this move not only casts some shade on KD... but also the Warriors. Would the 1996 Bulls have traded Rodman and waived Kukoc so they could add Barkley? The 2015-6 Warriors have ZERO claim left as the greatest team of all time. Exposed in the Finals, went running for help in FA. Cheap cheap cheap. I honestly don't think it's a slam dunk they win... but I'll have a hard time respecting them if they do. Worse than the Heatles.

<< ZERO claim left as the greatest team of all time
>>

Gotta agree on that, Warriors were fun to watch as a Knick fan here
however after 1st gold NBA ring they got quite co_cky, full of themselves
taunted LBJ when CAVs 1-3 down and now they secretly begged and began KD process
recruiting long before 7/1

Believe that player
KD has lost my respect,
he ain't winning there & if KD did,
There is 1 guy whom will be the reason/star is Steph Curry.

Only 1 "The man" /per team.

KD isn't going to be difference maker on a
team with already Young EGO's like Steph/Klay and Drammond.

Team looks GREAT on paper to reach West-Semi's NBA playoffs
again but I do not feel the Warriors team needing to GEL will
have impact paper says.

Bunch of superstars + ego = YOUR BEING GUNNED FOR BY NBA FOES!
good look, you don't win that Way!! this join up Sh_t.

Say all you want of Carmelo Anthony ..
he would not have signed to CLEVE CAVs cause he rather BEAT his friend LBJ than play alongside the superstar LBJ
THAT has to be RESPECTED! Old school!

What ticks me off is Melo was getting killed in the media for not taking less money to go to Chicago. He was portrayed as just being about the money, not interested in winning. KD does the opposite and he's getting killed by the same media for jumping to the team with the best chance of winning.
crzymdups @ 7/4/2016 11:02 PM
Welpee wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Not for nothing - but I think this move not only casts some shade on KD... but also the Warriors. Would the 1996 Bulls have traded Rodman and waived Kukoc so they could add Barkley? The 2015-6 Warriors have ZERO claim left as the greatest team of all time. Exposed in the Finals, went running for help in FA. Cheap cheap cheap. I honestly don't think it's a slam dunk they win... but I'll have a hard time respecting them if they do. Worse than the Heatles.

<< ZERO claim left as the greatest team of all time
>>

Gotta agree on that, Warriors were fun to watch as a Knick fan here
however after 1st gold NBA ring they got quite co_cky, full of themselves
taunted LBJ when CAVs 1-3 down and now they secretly begged and began KD process
recruiting long before 7/1

Believe that player
KD has lost my respect,
he ain't winning there & if KD did,
There is 1 guy whom will be the reason/star is Steph Curry.

Only 1 "The man" /per team.

KD isn't going to be difference maker on a
team with already Young EGO's like Steph/Klay and Drammond.

Team looks GREAT on paper to reach West-Semi's NBA playoffs
again but I do not feel the Warriors team needing to GEL will
have impact paper says.

Bunch of superstars + ego = YOUR BEING GUNNED FOR BY NBA FOES!
good look, you don't win that Way!! this join up Sh_t.

Say all you want of Carmelo Anthony ..
he would not have signed to CLEVE CAVs cause he rather BEAT his friend LBJ than play alongside the superstar LBJ
THAT has to be RESPECTED! Old school!

What ticks me off is Melo was getting killed in the media for not taking less money to go to Chicago. He was portrayed as just being about the money, not interested in winning. KD does the opposite and he's getting killed by the same media for jumping to the team with the best chance of winning.

Melo would've been killed either way, too, I think. Same way Bron gets killed no matter what he does.

blkexec @ 7/4/2016 11:03 PM
I don't know if this makes them that much better than before.....Basically, how can you get better than 73 wins. And the same issues they had before Durant, will be the same with Durant. They can't handle a physical team, with grind it out players that play hard on defense from 1-5.......If anything, with them losing their bench, it's almost a step backwards or a neutral move. There's only one ball and Durant operates in the same space as the splash brothers.

Now if they add a solid rim guy, he will have a field day since they will spread you out. Noah is the perfect guy to defense this team.....Lateral quickness to handle the PnR. KP might be the only weak link, as far as defensive matchups. Throw in LT for KP, and you have a solid defensive team against small ball.....or GS (now that we have LT the Durant defender)

meloshouldgo @ 7/4/2016 11:53 PM
What we need is to get Iggy and then set him against KD.
DJMUSIC @ 7/4/2016 11:55 PM
crzymdups wrote:
Welpee wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Not for nothing - but I think this move not only casts some shade on KD... but also the Warriors. Would the 1996 Bulls have traded Rodman and waived Kukoc so they could add Barkley? The 2015-6 Warriors have ZERO claim left as the greatest team of all time. Exposed in the Finals, went running for help in FA. Cheap cheap cheap. I honestly don't think it's a slam dunk they win... but I'll have a hard time respecting them if they do. Worse than the Heatles.

<< ZERO claim left as the greatest team of all time
>>

Gotta agree on that, Warriors were fun to watch as a Knick fan here
however after 1st gold NBA ring they got quite co_cky, full of themselves
taunted LBJ when CAVs 1-3 down and now they secretly begged and began KD process
recruiting long before 7/1

Believe that player
KD has lost my respect,
he ain't winning there & if KD did,
There is 1 guy whom will be the reason/star is Steph Curry.

Only 1 "The man" /per team.

KD isn't going to be difference maker on a
team with already Young EGO's like Steph/Klay and Drammond.

Team looks GREAT on paper to reach West-Semi's NBA playoffs
again but I do not feel the Warriors team needing to GEL will
have impact paper says.

Bunch of superstars + ego = YOUR BEING GUNNED FOR BY NBA FOES!
good look, you don't win that Way!! this join up Sh_t.

Say all you want of Carmelo Anthony ..
he would not have signed to CLEVE CAVs cause he rather BEAT his friend LBJ than play alongside the superstar LBJ
THAT has to be RESPECTED! Old school!

What ticks me off is Melo was getting killed in the media for not taking less money to go to Chicago. He was portrayed as just being about the money, not interested in winning. KD does the opposite and he's getting killed by the same media for jumping to the team with the best chance of winning.

Melo would've been killed either way, too, I think. Same way Bron gets killed no matter what he does.

I hear ya
its unfair a bit.

The old NBA had issues were players such as Magic Johnson OR Zeke Thomas got coaches fired Or
players traded (e.g. Adrian Dantley pistons) to WIN.

However any deals back in the day were players of skilled lesser superstar talent, as in case
Adrian Dantley from Pistons to Mavs for Mark Acguire, piece to help Detroit 3 appearances in finals & 2 NBA rings.

Today you got WHOLE NBA world of stars, Durant, LBJ, CP3, ect all pushing where they play with OTHER big stars.
This kinda LESSENs the NBA game competively and ruins competition. The Warriors did it right with drafts (Steph, Klay, Greene)

You're right LBJ and Melo get killed they want to win at nearly any costs
LBJ at least gave CAVs 7-8 yrs, before he left to HEAT but the process and BULL in media given
from Riley,Arrison HEAT is crap. They knew the recruitment for 2-3 stars/superstars was formula.

It worked for few yrs. However teams are in position to acquire superstars too easy though LBJ process to Heat
ain't nothing illegal was done.

In my yrs as Knicks fans if Pat Ewing got on phone at talked to Karl Malone or such superstar on joining Knicks
it was called "TAMPERING" regardless of FA status of K.Malone.

That is what will pis_s me off with NBA process. Its ok to want to win.
But if you got guys whom can dictate going to play with 2-3 superstars to win NBA titlte what's the poing ?of NBA fair competion
drafting and developing players and parity in league.

At least with hated Celtics (could not stand them if you're TRUE knick fan) the Pierce team getting KGarnett and Ray Allen
was done fair trade, big trade, yes I know McHale was Minny coach/mgmt. in Timeberwolve land when his ex.Celtics got BIG 3
together to WIN & get NBA Title.

However what Boston did, was not in comparision with Miami Heat (Bosh, LBJ & Wade)
whom all Heat spokesperson LIED about LBJ being aquired. I am sure LBJ was in chats with Miami long time
before fundraising for Boys Club, that LBJ was joining Riley HEAT weeks before 'The Announcement"

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