Knicks · Just to show how well Christian Wood has played--from draftex press (page 2)

fishmike @ 7/6/2016 12:41 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:Pretty sure Anthony Randolph had similar stat lines in the SL. The thing about both of these guys is can they think the game. All world physical talent, can they put it together?

Anthony Randolph was a lottery pick

And...? Nothing new. Both guys lack what is in-between their ears.

Youre into neuro science? Everything I have read about Wood is that he has worked very hard this off season. On top of it they are two very different skill players.


"Between the ears" has nothing to do with skills...has to do with decision making and understanding when to use those skills. You know this.

If the guy's BB IQ is low, I doubt Phil is going to make room for him at this point, IMO, and I am someone who said I might take a chance on him in your other Woods thread.

Does this sound like a player with low basketball IQ? Can you show me anything this year that shows he has a low IQ? Or maybe he tried to coem into the NBA at 18 and was overwhelmed and now gets it at the ripe old age of 20? He was loud and active defensively from the back line, altering several plays with his length and strong timing on help defense.

Lets remember as an executive Phil has done nothing yet.

well he took KP. Some around here consider that "something"

Unless the 108,960 times you posted that Phil is 100% taking WCS actually convinced you it happened? It didn't... we drafted the kid from Latvia

martin @ 7/6/2016 12:48 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:Pretty sure Anthony Randolph had similar stat lines in the SL. The thing about both of these guys is can they think the game. All world physical talent, can they put it together?

Anthony Randolph was a lottery pick

And...? Nothing new. Both guys lack what is in-between their ears.

Youre into neuro science? Everything I have read about Wood is that he has worked very hard this off season. On top of it they are two very different skill players.


"Between the ears" has nothing to do with skills...has to do with decision making and understanding when to use those skills. You know this.

If the guy's BB IQ is low, I doubt Phil is going to make room for him at this point, IMO, and I am someone who said I might take a chance on him in your other Woods thread.

Does this sound like a player with low basketball IQ? Can you show me anything this year that shows he has a low IQ? Or maybe he tried to coem into the NBA at 18 and was overwhelmed and now gets it at the ripe old age of 20? He was loud and active defensively from the back line, altering several plays with his length and strong timing on help defense.

Lets remember as an executive Phil has done nothing yet other than going with his scouts advice on KP. This new roster has a good % of potentially blowing up very hard--but we cant hold that as excuse.

Rose
Noah
Willy
Jennings
Mindaugas Kuzminskas
Lee

Cap room for a max next year.

What am I missing? Listening to your scouts is fucking good work man

newyorker4ever @ 7/6/2016 1:00 PM
BRIGGS wrote:https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/...


Then factor in his age--the guy is a NO BRAINER for the Knicks as a guy we can use with KP and Noah. I dont trust KOQ and let me see Willy come close to putting up a 43 PER in SL or do 20-20s in the D league. We need a guy like this--a guy who has range out to 3 yet has post skills crashes the boards rebounds defends--this is the biggest NO F brainer out there.

I'm sure Phil and his whole team know about Wood and every other player out there that is playing well and we're able to get but without any of us knowing Phil's plan for this team then it's hard for any of us to say what player would fit what Phil's trying to do. Hopefully Phil will give him a serious look cause he can obviously ball (in the d-league any way) and looks like someone that could help us. I still want a big man PF/C that can give us some offense under the basket and a guard that can shoot the ball and if we could find both of those we could really be good.

newyorker4ever @ 7/6/2016 1:04 PM
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:Pretty sure Anthony Randolph had similar stat lines in the SL. The thing about both of these guys is can they think the game. All world physical talent, can they put it together?

Anthony Randolph was a lottery pick

And...? Nothing new. Both guys lack what is in-between their ears.

Yeah i think sometimes Briggs over looks that just cause these kids can ball against the type of talent that's in the d-league means absolutely nothing to what they can do in the NBA and there's multiple examples of players i could give that looked like all stars in the d-league or anywhere else but the NBA and couldn't make it once they got to the NBA. I do like what Wood is doing though and he looks legit but nobody will know until he actually gets a real shot in the NBA.

WaltLongmire @ 7/6/2016 1:35 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:Pretty sure Anthony Randolph had similar stat lines in the SL. The thing about both of these guys is can they think the game. All world physical talent, can they put it together?

Anthony Randolph was a lottery pick

And...? Nothing new. Both guys lack what is in-between their ears.

Youre into neuro science? Everything I have read about Wood is that he has worked very hard this off season. On top of it they are two very different skill players.


"Between the ears" has nothing to do with skills...has to do with decision making and understanding when to use those skills. You know this.

If the guy's BB IQ is low, I doubt Phil is going to make room for him at this point, IMO, and I am someone who said I might take a chance on him in your other Woods thread.

Does this sound like a player with low basketball IQ? Can you show me anything this year that shows he has a low IQ? Or maybe he tried to coem into the NBA at 18 and was overwhelmed and now gets it at the ripe old age of 20? He was loud and active defensively from the back line, altering several plays with his length and strong timing on help defense.

Lets remember as an executive Phil has done nothing yet other than going with his scouts advice on KP. This new roster has a good % of potentially blowing up very hard--but we cant hold that as excuse.


From DraftExpress who said a lot of GOOD stuff about him, too. I'm thinking this has something to do with BB IQ.

Me...I would invite the guy to camp if I could, but I'm assuming that Jackson and his people have talked about him.

I'm surprised he went to the Sixers' SL team, and not somewhere else for a change of location.

Wood has poor fundamentals on defense, as he tends to bite on pump-fakes regularly, and shows limited awareness off the ball in terms of positioning. He struggles with the nuances of the pick and roll, not always executing his team's game-plan, instead looking hunched over in a stance, and getting blown by off the dribble.

Inside the post, Wood is not particularly physical, as he tends to just stand straight-up and allow stronger players to catch the ball with deep position without putting up much of a fight. Once they catch it, he doesn't do a great job of bodying up his matchup or trying to hold his ground to avoid getting backed down. He doesn't appear to be the toughest or most contact loving player around, and his intensity leaves a lot to be desired as well in terms of his ability to give a second effort. It's not rare for example to see him jogging back on defense and getting beat up the floor by the opposing big man.

His feel for the game leaves a lot to be desired as well, as he doesn't seem to have any real concept of what his limitations are offensively at the moment, which is a real issue considering his lack of polish. Reading the floor or making simple plays is not something that comes natural to him. Wood's 8.5% assist percentage is one of the lowest rates among players currently projected to get drafted—he not only does not have great court vision, but also has a tendency to play somewhat selfishly at times.

martin @ 7/6/2016 1:55 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:Pretty sure Anthony Randolph had similar stat lines in the SL. The thing about both of these guys is can they think the game. All world physical talent, can they put it together?

Anthony Randolph was a lottery pick

And...? Nothing new. Both guys lack what is in-between their ears.

Youre into neuro science? Everything I have read about Wood is that he has worked very hard this off season. On top of it they are two very different skill players.


"Between the ears" has nothing to do with skills...has to do with decision making and understanding when to use those skills. You know this.

If the guy's BB IQ is low, I doubt Phil is going to make room for him at this point, IMO, and I am someone who said I might take a chance on him in your other Woods thread.

Does this sound like a player with low basketball IQ? Can you show me anything this year that shows he has a low IQ? Or maybe he tried to coem into the NBA at 18 and was overwhelmed and now gets it at the ripe old age of 20? He was loud and active defensively from the back line, altering several plays with his length and strong timing on help defense.

Lets remember as an executive Phil has done nothing yet other than going with his scouts advice on KP. This new roster has a good % of potentially blowing up very hard--but we cant hold that as excuse.


From DraftExpress who said a lot of GOOD stuff about him, too. I'm thinking this has something to do with BB IQ.

Me...I would invite the guy to camp if I could, but I'm assuming that Jackson and his people have talked about him.

I'm surprised he went to the Sixers' SL team, and not somewhere else for a change of location.

Wood has poor fundamentals on defense, as he tends to bite on pump-fakes regularly, and shows limited awareness off the ball in terms of positioning. He struggles with the nuances of the pick and roll, not always executing his team's game-plan, instead looking hunched over in a stance, and getting blown by off the dribble.

Inside the post, Wood is not particularly physical, as he tends to just stand straight-up and allow stronger players to catch the ball with deep position without putting up much of a fight. Once they catch it, he doesn't do a great job of bodying up his matchup or trying to hold his ground to avoid getting backed down. He doesn't appear to be the toughest or most contact loving player around, and his intensity leaves a lot to be desired as well in terms of his ability to give a second effort. It's not rare for example to see him jogging back on defense and getting beat up the floor by the opposing big man.

His feel for the game leaves a lot to be desired as well, as he doesn't seem to have any real concept of what his limitations are offensively at the moment, which is a real issue considering his lack of polish. Reading the floor or making simple plays is not something that comes natural to him. Wood's 8.5% assist percentage is one of the lowest rates among players currently projected to get drafted—he not only does not have great court vision, but also has a tendency to play somewhat selfishly at times.

Aren't they the ones who drafted him (or signed him last year)? Could be that they have the most cap space too, and there's got to be an agent familiarity too.

WaltLongmire @ 7/6/2016 2:06 PM
martin wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:Pretty sure Anthony Randolph had similar stat lines in the SL. The thing about both of these guys is can they think the game. All world physical talent, can they put it together?

Anthony Randolph was a lottery pick

And...? Nothing new. Both guys lack what is in-between their ears.

Youre into neuro science? Everything I have read about Wood is that he has worked very hard this off season. On top of it they are two very different skill players.


"Between the ears" has nothing to do with skills...has to do with decision making and understanding when to use those skills. You know this.

If the guy's BB IQ is low, I doubt Phil is going to make room for him at this point, IMO, and I am someone who said I might take a chance on him in your other Woods thread.

Does this sound like a player with low basketball IQ? Can you show me anything this year that shows he has a low IQ? Or maybe he tried to coem into the NBA at 18 and was overwhelmed and now gets it at the ripe old age of 20? He was loud and active defensively from the back line, altering several plays with his length and strong timing on help defense.

Lets remember as an executive Phil has done nothing yet other than going with his scouts advice on KP. This new roster has a good % of potentially blowing up very hard--but we cant hold that as excuse.


From DraftExpress who said a lot of GOOD stuff about him, too. I'm thinking this has something to do with BB IQ.

Me...I would invite the guy to camp if I could, but I'm assuming that Jackson and his people have talked about him.

I'm surprised he went to the Sixers' SL team, and not somewhere else for a change of location.

Wood has poor fundamentals on defense, as he tends to bite on pump-fakes regularly, and shows limited awareness off the ball in terms of positioning. He struggles with the nuances of the pick and roll, not always executing his team's game-plan, instead looking hunched over in a stance, and getting blown by off the dribble.

Inside the post, Wood is not particularly physical, as he tends to just stand straight-up and allow stronger players to catch the ball with deep position without putting up much of a fight. Once they catch it, he doesn't do a great job of bodying up his matchup or trying to hold his ground to avoid getting backed down. He doesn't appear to be the toughest or most contact loving player around, and his intensity leaves a lot to be desired as well in terms of his ability to give a second effort. It's not rare for example to see him jogging back on defense and getting beat up the floor by the opposing big man.

His feel for the game leaves a lot to be desired as well, as he doesn't seem to have any real concept of what his limitations are offensively at the moment, which is a real issue considering his lack of polish. Reading the floor or making simple plays is not something that comes natural to him. Wood's 8.5% assist percentage is one of the lowest rates among players currently projected to get drafted—he not only does not have great court vision, but also has a tendency to play somewhat selfishly at times.

Aren't they the ones who drafted him (or signed him last year)? Could be that they have the most cap space too, and there's got to be an agent familiarity too.

They are...but it is also a team with little veteran influence. Woods was also with OK4 during that incident last year. If I'm his agent I get him a change of scenery so he is away from the distractions.

From what I can see they don't have a single veteran big man on that team.

Right now their vets are Henderson, Bayless, Sergio Rodriguez, and Landry. I guess that Landry is the veteran big who is going to be the "veteran presence."

BRIGGS @ 7/7/2016 11:00 PM
Guy was incredible tonight. I wanted to watch Ben Simmons and I was thoroughly unimpressed with some of his play(albeit he has nice other parts) and just the other way Christian Wood was fantastic on the defensive end--they had him down for 4 blocks but I thought he had 5-6 and he just stopped Utah--made Tery Lyle look bad a few times--was dominant on the boards and explosive and unstoppable on offense. The guy has hit 5 3's in 3 games---hes score 58 points and grabbed 20 rebounds in his 50 minutes over 3 games. He was also post dominant again with his footwork length and timely crashed the boards. This guy is no joke and why I have to question why we are signing Marshall Plumlee prematurely when there is another big unsigned who is better at every facet of the game. If you told me he was pick #1 in this years draft Id believe you--hes MUCH MUCH better than Simmons. Its just a different ballplayer--hes got to be 20 pounds bigger he plays 100X smarter he looks like he play MUCH harder hes dominant---its like watching Anthony Davis
Andrew @ 7/8/2016 7:50 AM
If Wood is as good as you say, is he signing a FA deal for the min with only 1 year guaranteed?
callmened @ 7/8/2016 8:45 AM
ive always been a fan since his Christian wood days. met him and his family at vegas. called me "sir". lol. nice kid that you cant help but root for
Knicksfan @ 7/8/2016 9:10 AM
Andrew wrote:If Wood is as good as you say, is he signing a FA deal for the min with only 1 year guaranteed?

Knicksfan @ 7/8/2016 9:12 AM
callmened wrote:ive always been a fan since his Christian wood days. met him and his family at vegas. called me "sir". lol. nice kid that you cant help but root for

Has he had non Christian wood days?

callmened @ 7/8/2016 9:48 AM
woops. sorry about that...I meant since his UNLV days!!!
Knicksfan @ 7/8/2016 10:06 AM
callmened wrote:woops. sorry about that...I meant since his UNLV days!!!

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