Knicks · Simple and Comprehensive Solution for "Hack-a-Shaq" problem (?) (page 1)

Malcolm @ 7/30/2016 12:46 PM
Why not:

Give the fouled team the option of free throws or ball possession.

That works, doesn't it (?)

It doesn't disrupt history of the game, since:

(1) it's only applicable when teams are over the foul limit
(2) it has same effect as fouls before the foul limit

Any reason this isn't the answer (?)

Vmart @ 7/30/2016 1:20 PM
Allow the best shooter to shoot one free throw and possession. The problem here is it allows unskilled players employment.
Knickoftime @ 7/30/2016 2:36 PM
Malcolm wrote:Why not:

Give the fouled team the option of free throws or ball possession.

That works, doesn't it (?)

It doesn't disrupt history of the game, since:

(1) it's only applicable when teams are over the foul limit
(2) it has same effect as fouls before the foul limit

Any reason this isn't the answer (?)

Critics would argue it takes away from the genuine strategy of the game when a (what's relatively rare) very poor free throw shooter isn't in the equation.

Teams down multiple possessions with little time left would effectively be out of the game.

If you're up 7 points with just a minute left, the game is over most of the time, but there is a chance for missed free throws and a comeback.

I'll give you a for instance.

Game 6 of the 2013 Finals. Spurs were up 4 with 28 seconds left and James turned the ball over to Ginobli who was fouled immediately and famously went 1-2 at the line.

With your rules, Spurs could have run the clock down to 4 seconds with a 4 point lead and the Heat would have no option other than to try to steal the ball. A foul just resets the shot clock.

And if they inadvertently foul trying to steal the ball with with less than 24 seconds left, game over.

Same game.

James hit a 3 with 20 seconds left, cutting lead to 2. But under your rule, game over, unless they can steal the ball. Not Leonard famously going 1-2 at the line, giving Allen the chance to tie.

meloshouldgo @ 7/30/2016 4:01 PM
Two free throws and the ball back. Punish the foul, but maintain the flow of the game.
markvmc @ 7/30/2016 4:26 PM
Hit your damn free throws.
franco12 @ 7/30/2016 4:50 PM
markvmc wrote:Hit your damn free throws.

I agree, and I don't think this is a problem with the game. Anytime I watch teams intentionally foul, it usually doesn't work out for them.

There is no excuse for DeAndre Jordan to not learn how to shoot FTs. If he has to try underhand, do it.

Knickoftime @ 7/30/2016 6:30 PM
franco12 wrote:
markvmc wrote:Hit your damn free throws.

I agree, and I don't think this is a problem with the game. Anytime I watch teams intentionally foul, it usually doesn't work out for them.

There is no excuse for DeAndre Jordan to not learn how to shoot FTs. If he has to try underhand, do it.

The idea that the Jordan's and shaq's of the nba don't try hard enough to hit FTs is ludicrous. Shaq's efforts to improve are well documented.

They are points. Why wouldn't any player want to add to his scoring totals??

Ever see Charles Barkley swing a golf club. Sometimes it is just mental and practice won't solve it.

There is a reason it's usually 7 footers.

blkexec @ 7/30/2016 9:15 PM
Its part of the game.....if you can't make a free throw, work on your shooting. If you can't dribble, work on your dribbling. If you can't pass, work on your passing.
mreinman @ 7/30/2016 10:11 PM
allow 2 intentional fouls per half and after that its a tech and side out.
Knickoftime @ 7/30/2016 10:23 PM
blkexec wrote:Its part of the game.....if you can't make a free throw, work on your shooting. If you can't dribble, work on your dribbling. If you can't pass, work on your passing.

Then all that is between every player being a great shooting, passing, dribbling superstar is almost all of them don't work hard enough?

CrushAlot @ 7/30/2016 10:51 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
Malcolm wrote:Why not:

Give the fouled team the option of free throws or ball possession.

That works, doesn't it (?)

It doesn't disrupt history of the game, since:

(1) it's only applicable when teams are over the foul limit
(2) it has same effect as fouls before the foul limit

Any reason this isn't the answer (?)

Critics would argue it takes away from the genuine strategy of the game when a (what's relatively rare) very poor free throw shooter isn't in the equation.

Teams down multiple possessions with little time left would effectively be out of the game.

If you're up 7 points with just a minute left, the game is over most of the time, but there is a chance for missed free throws and a comeback.

I'll give you a for instance.

Game 6 of the 2013 Finals. Spurs were up 4 with 28 seconds left and James turned the ball over to Ginobli who was fouled immediately and famously went 1-2 at the line.

With your rules, Spurs could have run the clock down to 4 seconds with a 4 point lead and the Heat would have no option other than to try to steal the ball. A foul just resets the shot clock.

And if they inadvertently foul trying to steal the ball with with less than 24 seconds left, game over.

Same game.

James hit a 3 with 20 seconds left, cutting lead to 2. But under your rule, game over, unless they can steal the ball. Not Leonard famously going 1-2 at the line, giving Allen the chance to tie.

Great example. Does the rule change for the fourth quarter or is it just the last two minutes?
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