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If this happened in the setting of a school then it's a crime, why not in this case??
holfresh wrote:I'm curious, isn't walking in on naked 15 year old girls against the law?? Why haven't someone arrested Donald Trump and question him about this episode..Hasn't anyone in the beauty pageant come forward?? How could that not be a criminal act??..He is a voyeur and admitted it on Howard Stern show..
If this happened in the setting of a school then it's a crime, why not in this case??
Anyone saying Hillary is a criminal is being hypocritical. Trump has allegedly done far worse things than Hillary has done, and he actually confessed on tape to one of the crimes.
holfresh wrote:BRIGGS wrote:holfresh wrote:White Supremacist groups in the US numbered at 76 pre-Trump and now at 190 post Trump candidacy..Questions?What is a white supremacist?-- there are racist in every group. Who cares. Michael Moore had it right--people who follow Trump aren't racists. They just understand that people who are in charge are good at getting theirs and fcking everyone else. My wife is a nurse and the first hand knowledge I have about illegal immigrants using our health care is very troubling to say the least. It's a horrible situation and people dont get it. I worked in the financial industry for 12 years. I know the deal and thye dont like ANY type of change and why would they--thats why they PAY up to Hillary--shes the figurehead--thats it...--believe me Hillary Clinton is a F racist. Shes called black people super predators. You want to know racists--go throw a mic in her home.
Trump would be good for American Hispanics Chinese and AA--I think the Chinese get it. Not sure about the other two groups. They think a Trump vote is supporting racism--and I do not believe that. Who will do more for them--I think Trump. NO creed should vote 90-10 thats too many followers not enough leaders.
Everyone exploit the system for their own gains if possible...Illegal immigrants used emergency room as the primary physicians but so does the rest of the uninsured population...So you care more that illegal immigrants are driving cost more than the legally uninsured who I would suspect outnumber illegal immigrant by a large margin??
Trump exploited the system not to pay federal taxes for 18 years..The rich paid off congressmen to get it that way...Trump wants to cut their taxes further...Since you worked in the Financial Industry, then you understand Hedge Fund managers are only paying 15% tax on their income or did Obama increase it to 23% recently...What am I missing..
Trump is full of shet dude..Those jobs aren't coming back..This country manufacturing output is at historic highs...We manufacture 3 to 5 times more goods today than in the golden era of this nation's industrial production...The 1950/60s..Boeing puts out more product today at the rate of 160 times than it did in the 1960s...Our car manufacturers are putting out cars today at historic highs IN THE USA...The problem is automation..Trump is telling the people it's NAFTA...It's all BULLSHIT...And you are buying into it...I really don't think Trump knows, he says he doesn't like to read..He probably thinks he can reopen 1950s factories again...
As far as white supremacist...Catch the dude in the Trump logo T-shirt saying Jews weren't oppressed in Russia..These guys aren't only against darkies..
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/white-nat...
I'd let the Wall street scumbags keep the extra 8% in income tax if it means stopping extreme liberalism in its tracks. It has to be stopped if you want to continue to live in the United States States of America you've come to know
Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:I'm curious, isn't walking in on naked 15 year old girls against the law?? Why haven't someone arrested Donald Trump and question him about this episode..Hasn't anyone in the beauty pageant come forward?? How could that not be a criminal act??..He is a voyeur and admitted it on Howard Stern show..
If this happened in the setting of a school then it's a crime, why not in this case??
Anyone saying Hillary is a criminal is being hypocritical. Trump has allegedly done far worse things than Hillary has done, and he actually confessed on tape to one of the crimes.
Can you imagine the SHAME America would have to face if Billy Perv Clinton becomes America's first First Gentleman? What a joke. A shameful, DIRTY joke.
gunsnewing wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:I'm curious, isn't walking in on naked 15 year old girls against the law?? Why haven't someone arrested Donald Trump and question him about this episode..Hasn't anyone in the beauty pageant come forward?? How could that not be a criminal act??..He is a voyeur and admitted it on Howard Stern show..
If this happened in the setting of a school then it's a crime, why not in this case??
Anyone saying Hillary is a criminal is being hypocritical. Trump has allegedly done far worse things than Hillary has done, and he actually confessed on tape to one of the crimes.Can you imagine the SHAME America would have to face if Billy Perv Clinton becomes America's first First Gentleman? What a joke. A shameful, DIRTY joke.
Eh, that kind of viewpoint will resonate with 35 or 40% of the country. Good luck with that. You're talking about a man with higher approval ratings than almost anyone in the Republican party.
BRIGGS wrote:
Disgusting---complete liar.
BRIGGS, do we really need to go through and show all the untrue things Trump has said? This whole idea that you are voting for Trump because Hillary is a liar is the most absurd thing I have ever heard. Trump has lied far more than Hillary throughout this campaign.
You should read the Art of the Lie regarding Donald Trump and the many lies he has told. See below:
Correct The Record today released The Art of the Lie: The Definitive Guide to Donald’s Dishonesty, a new e-book examining how—and why—Donald Trump lies. Over the past sixteen months, Trump has waged an all-out assault on the principle of fact-based debate that is the cornerstone of modern American politics. By analyzing the totality of Trump’s falsehoods and deconstructing his self-serving lies, The Art of the Lie exposes the Republican nominee as one of the most talented and dangerous con men in American history.
“Donald Trump’s mendacity goes beyond anything we’ve ever seen in American politics and threatens to completely destroy our democracy’s bedrock values of honesty and openness,” said Brad Woodhouse, President of Correct The Record. “We wrote this book out of a simple belief: Donald Trump is playing a massive con on the American people, and he must be exposed.”
In his penchant for self-aggrandizement, his fondness for conspiracy theories and his blatant disregard for facts, Trump is unlike any major party presidential candidate in modern American history. For Trump, lying is not just about spouting inaccuracies. It is literally central to his political identity. In the past four months alone, Trump has told at least 1,057 lies. And PolitiFact has rated about 70 percent of Trump’s statements they fact checked as falsehoods. The previous Republican nominee, Mitt Romney, received a 42 percent false rating—a 28 percent difference.
This book is the latest effort in Correct the Record’s Trump Lies Project, which is an effort to hold Trump accountable for his unprecedented deceitfulness. Since June, Correct The Record has tracked and fact checked Trump’s false claims in real time and released a weekly roundup of Trump’s lies each Friday. This book builds on that work but also goes deeper by examining exactly how Trump lies and how his lies have constructed a self-serving and outlandish alternative reality. Read The Art of the Lie here.
holfresh wrote:Knickoftime wrote:holfresh wrote:Knickoftime wrote:holfresh wrote:Knickoftime wrote:holfresh wrote:Knickoftime wrote:holfresh wrote:Obamacare has cut the African American uninsured rate by more than 50% since implementation..Trump says he will repeal it..Hillary said she will expand it..Questions?Sure. I have one.
Do people understand Presidents can't "help inner cities", or repeal or expand the Affordable Care Act?
Wasn't Obama responsible for getting congress to write the plan for Obamacare?..If Trump has a republican house and senate then he surely can repeal it...
Of course, but to suggest Congress is going to fall in line with a Trump agenda in the same way the Democratic congress did during Obama's first two years is something of a leap of logic.
It is also very hard to repeal laws strictly from a parlimentary sense, and it'd be politically difficult to do it even with those workarounds...
Most saavy people are very skeptical of the prospect of congress leaving the millions of people who actually like the ACA high and dry.
The Republican Congress voted to repeal all or part of Obamacare 62 times thus far while Obama was in the White House...62 times...
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/...They were all meaningless votes. Every time congress voted they knew Obama would veto and they didn't have the votes for override.
It was purely for political show. Not one of those 62 times did any member of congress believe their vote would lead to its repeal.
They didn't have the votes in the Senate...So you are saying they wouldn't make that vote with President Trump???..That's your call?????
A Republican senate would allow the bill to be filibustered by Democrats (they won't have 60 votes under any circumstances).
That way Republican Congress can enjoy political purity and the capital of saying they voted for repeal, but they were blocked by those damn obstructionist Democrats who are holding up legislation.
It's win/win for them. They get to repeal it without actually taking away a law people benefit from but may not even realize it.
The fallout of repealing it will become real.
Right now public opinion is against it, but most people don't understand it.
Opposing it but not actually repealing is the political sweetspot for the GOP.
Ha...You really think these guys are care are scoring political points and appearances??..
Yes, that's why they voted to repeal it 62 times knowing each of those 62 times the vote was symbolic.
I do give them credit for knowing who the President was, what his constitutional powers were and how many votes in their own houses were needed for repeal.
They hitched their wagons to Donald Trump and stayed hitched after the video yet somehow you think there are some logical/predictable play to their actions..
Many have not. It is a fallacy all elected Republican officials are behind Trump.
And take care to note before the other day, and despite it's unfavorability ratings, the ACA has NOT been a big issue this campaign cycle. It has not been a major platform of Trump or anyone on the right.
BRIGGS wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Trumps urban renewal speech in NC today. I really hope African Americans finally get it. They get "used" by Clinton's for a vote while the other candidate has consistently said he wants to rebuild inner cities.
The second you vote for Hillary--you will not see her in your corner again--shes done. Use your brains--vote Trump or at a minimum go independent=--dont vote for Hillary
The MFer is a HUGE real estate developer. If he really gave a damn about rebuilding the inner city to help black folks he kinda already had a job that is better suited for it than the presidency. Why was he so busy courting Money Making Manhattan and bankrupting Atlantic City casinos — that he'd shoo black dealers off the floor if he was giving a whale a tour — if he really gave a damn about us?
I believe he would help the inner cities--I DO NOT NO WAY beliueve Hillary will do sht. Simple as that. P Diddy was very smart when he reasoned that the AA could deal with Trump. Trump is NOT the white establishment figure--you go it hes a developer a builder and a job creator. What will Hillary do for you--ZERO.
BRIGGS what empirical evidence do you have that Trump is going to help the inner cities. He is talking about stop and frisk laws, and "law and order" which generally only means police harassing minorities. He is not talking about jobs, as he certainly is not going to fund any job training programs or educational programs that would allow people to qualify for better jobs. As a real estate developer, he has excluded blacks from his properties, but you somehow believe that this guy is going to help the inner cities. Your right, Trump is not a White Establishment figure. He is a White Supremacist Figure, which is why all the racist support him.
gunsnewing wrote:why would there be shame for Bill but not for Donald who has admitted to groping, too openly treating women like dirt, to wandering around naked underage women because "he runs the pagent." Why do YOU guns find shame in Bill but not in Trump? What a joke.Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:I'm curious, isn't walking in on naked 15 year old girls against the law?? Why haven't someone arrested Donald Trump and question him about this episode..Hasn't anyone in the beauty pageant come forward?? How could that not be a criminal act??..He is a voyeur and admitted it on Howard Stern show..
If this happened in the setting of a school then it's a crime, why not in this case??
Anyone saying Hillary is a criminal is being hypocritical. Trump has allegedly done far worse things than Hillary has done, and he actually confessed on tape to one of the crimes.Can you imagine the SHAME America would have to face if Billy Perv Clinton becomes America's first First Gentleman? What a joke. A shameful, DIRTY joke.
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:She is driven by power and money and has poor ethics.
I get why people hold that POV, but IMO it is also somewhat a selective one and reduces her to a caricature.
Her full biography reveals a person who from a very early age through more than half of her life demonstrated a genuine commitment to public service, particularly in regard to the welfare of children.
If people want to view her full biography as some sort of craven pre-meditated long-term masterplan to rise to the corridors of political power, they can and apparently do.
What it demonstrates to me is the capacity for genuine compassion and public service is there, and seen through that lens it becomes more difficult to reduce her to a Bond villain.
Will you acknowledge and support a Trump win?
Acknowledge? Certainly.
Support? I'm genuinely not certain what form that takes?
fishmike wrote:gunsnewing wrote:why would there be shame for Bill but not for Donald who has admitted to groping, too openly treating women like dirt, to wandering around naked underage women because "he runs the pagent." Why do YOU guns find shame in Bill but not in Trump? What a joke.Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:I'm curious, isn't walking in on naked 15 year old girls against the law?? Why haven't someone arrested Donald Trump and question him about this episode..Hasn't anyone in the beauty pageant come forward?? How could that not be a criminal act??..He is a voyeur and admitted it on Howard Stern show..
If this happened in the setting of a school then it's a crime, why not in this case??
Anyone saying Hillary is a criminal is being hypocritical. Trump has allegedly done far worse things than Hillary has done, and he actually confessed on tape to one of the crimes.Can you imagine the SHAME America would have to face if Billy Perv Clinton becomes America's first First Gentleman? What a joke. A shameful, DIRTY joke.
There really is no answer for any of this except that he and Briggs just don't like Hillary
gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:BRIGGS wrote:holfresh wrote:White Supremacist groups in the US numbered at 76 pre-Trump and now at 190 post Trump candidacy..Questions?What is a white supremacist?-- there are racist in every group. Who cares. Michael Moore had it right--people who follow Trump aren't racists. They just understand that people who are in charge are good at getting theirs and fcking everyone else. My wife is a nurse and the first hand knowledge I have about illegal immigrants using our health care is very troubling to say the least. It's a horrible situation and people dont get it. I worked in the financial industry for 12 years. I know the deal and thye dont like ANY type of change and why would they--thats why they PAY up to Hillary--shes the figurehead--thats it...--believe me Hillary Clinton is a F racist. Shes called black people super predators. You want to know racists--go throw a mic in her home.
Trump would be good for American Hispanics Chinese and AA--I think the Chinese get it. Not sure about the other two groups. They think a Trump vote is supporting racism--and I do not believe that. Who will do more for them--I think Trump. NO creed should vote 90-10 thats too many followers not enough leaders.
Everyone exploit the system for their own gains if possible...Illegal immigrants used emergency room as the primary physicians but so does the rest of the uninsured population...So you care more that illegal immigrants are driving cost more than the legally uninsured who I would suspect outnumber illegal immigrant by a large margin??
Trump exploited the system not to pay federal taxes for 18 years..The rich paid off congressmen to get it that way...Trump wants to cut their taxes further...Since you worked in the Financial Industry, then you understand Hedge Fund managers are only paying 15% tax on their income or did Obama increase it to 23% recently...What am I missing..
Trump is full of shet dude..Those jobs aren't coming back..This country manufacturing output is at historic highs...We manufacture 3 to 5 times more goods today than in the golden era of this nation's industrial production...The 1950/60s..Boeing puts out more product today at the rate of 160 times than it did in the 1960s...Our car manufacturers are putting out cars today at historic highs IN THE USA...The problem is automation..Trump is telling the people it's NAFTA...It's all BULLSHIT...And you are buying into it...I really don't think Trump knows, he says he doesn't like to read..He probably thinks he can reopen 1950s factories again...
As far as white supremacist...Catch the dude in the Trump logo T-shirt saying Jews weren't oppressed in Russia..These guys aren't only against darkies..
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/white-nat...I'd let the Wall street scumbags keep the extra 8% in income tax if it means stopping extreme liberalism in its tracks. It has to be stopped if you want to continue to live in the United States States of America you've come to know
You just simply and eloquently illustrated a significant divide in the electorate gun.
Many of us do not know to what you refer to when you say "the United States States of America you've come to know."
Can you explain what that is, specifically?
Bonn1997 wrote:but that's not their answer. They defend Trump as the better option, when he is clearly worse in every area that they hate Clinton. My favorite is when Trump gets exposed for stiffing people and declaring bankruptcy, than turns and blames Clinton for allowing him by not changing the laws. That is perhaps the most incredible of his scumbaggery. But Briggs and Guns love the Amerika dream that Trump is selling. Cool on them.fishmike wrote:gunsnewing wrote:why would there be shame for Bill but not for Donald who has admitted to groping, too openly treating women like dirt, to wandering around naked underage women because "he runs the pagent." Why do YOU guns find shame in Bill but not in Trump? What a joke.Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:I'm curious, isn't walking in on naked 15 year old girls against the law?? Why haven't someone arrested Donald Trump and question him about this episode..Hasn't anyone in the beauty pageant come forward?? How could that not be a criminal act??..He is a voyeur and admitted it on Howard Stern show..
If this happened in the setting of a school then it's a crime, why not in this case??
Anyone saying Hillary is a criminal is being hypocritical. Trump has allegedly done far worse things than Hillary has done, and he actually confessed on tape to one of the crimes.Can you imagine the SHAME America would have to face if Billy Perv Clinton becomes America's first First Gentleman? What a joke. A shameful, DIRTY joke.
There really is no answer for any of this except that he and Briggs just don't like Hillary
TheGame wrote:I can answer that for you, cut taxes. That apparently cures everything.BRIGGS wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Trumps urban renewal speech in NC today. I really hope African Americans finally get it. They get "used" by Clinton's for a vote while the other candidate has consistently said he wants to rebuild inner cities.
The second you vote for Hillary--you will not see her in your corner again--shes done. Use your brains--vote Trump or at a minimum go independent=--dont vote for Hillary
The MFer is a HUGE real estate developer. If he really gave a damn about rebuilding the inner city to help black folks he kinda already had a job that is better suited for it than the presidency. Why was he so busy courting Money Making Manhattan and bankrupting Atlantic City casinos — that he'd shoo black dealers off the floor if he was giving a whale a tour — if he really gave a damn about us?
I believe he would help the inner cities--I DO NOT NO WAY beliueve Hillary will do sht. Simple as that. P Diddy was very smart when he reasoned that the AA could deal with Trump. Trump is NOT the white establishment figure--you go it hes a developer a builder and a job creator. What will Hillary do for you--ZERO.
BRIGGS what empirical evidence do you have that Trump is going to help the inner cities. He is talking about stop and frisk laws, and "law and order" which generally only means police harassing minorities. He is not talking about jobs, as he certainly is not going to fund any job training programs or educational programs that would allow people to qualify for better jobs. As a real estate developer, he has excluded blacks from his properties, but you somehow believe that this guy is going to help the inner cities. Your right, Trump is not a White Establishment figure. He is a White Supremacist Figure, which is why all the racist support him.
gunsnewing wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:I'm curious, isn't walking in on naked 15 year old girls against the law?? Why haven't someone arrested Donald Trump and question him about this episode..Hasn't anyone in the beauty pageant come forward?? How could that not be a criminal act??..He is a voyeur and admitted it on Howard Stern show..
If this happened in the setting of a school then it's a crime, why not in this case??
Anyone saying Hillary is a criminal is being hypocritical. Trump has allegedly done far worse things than Hillary has done, and he actually confessed on tape to one of the crimes.Can you imagine the SHAME America would have to face if Billy Perv Clinton becomes America's first First Gentleman? What a joke. A shameful, DIRTY joke.
Let's talk SHAME..Trump is a bigger pervert if not criminal for voyeurism of 15 year olds...His wife, the next first lady, has nude photos plastered all over the internet...Imagine the global joke if elected..
fishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:but that's not their answer. They defend Trump as the better option, when he is clearly worse in every area that they hate Clinton. My favorite is when Trump gets exposed for stiffing people and declaring bankruptcy, than turns and blames Clinton for allowing him by not changing the laws. That is perhaps the most incredible of his scumbaggery. But Briggs and Guns love the Amerika dream that Trump is selling. Cool on them.fishmike wrote:gunsnewing wrote:why would there be shame for Bill but not for Donald who has admitted to groping, too openly treating women like dirt, to wandering around naked underage women because "he runs the pagent." Why do YOU guns find shame in Bill but not in Trump? What a joke.Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:I'm curious, isn't walking in on naked 15 year old girls against the law?? Why haven't someone arrested Donald Trump and question him about this episode..Hasn't anyone in the beauty pageant come forward?? How could that not be a criminal act??..He is a voyeur and admitted it on Howard Stern show..
If this happened in the setting of a school then it's a crime, why not in this case??
Anyone saying Hillary is a criminal is being hypocritical. Trump has allegedly done far worse things than Hillary has done, and he actually confessed on tape to one of the crimes.Can you imagine the SHAME America would have to face if Billy Perv Clinton becomes America's first First Gentleman? What a joke. A shameful, DIRTY joke.
There really is no answer for any of this except that he and Briggs just don't like Hillary
Right, that's why their answer doesn't make sense. There is no answer that would really explain their views other than that they just don't like Hillary.
fishmike wrote:gunsnewing wrote:why would there be shame for Bill but not for Donald who has admitted to groping, too openly treating women like dirt, to wandering around naked underage women because "he runs the pagent." Why do YOU guns find shame in Bill but not in Trump? What a joke.Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:I'm curious, isn't walking in on naked 15 year old girls against the law?? Why haven't someone arrested Donald Trump and question him about this episode..Hasn't anyone in the beauty pageant come forward?? How could that not be a criminal act??..He is a voyeur and admitted it on Howard Stern show..
If this happened in the setting of a school then it's a crime, why not in this case??
Anyone saying Hillary is a criminal is being hypocritical. Trump has allegedly done far worse things than Hillary has done, and he actually confessed on tape to one of the crimes.Can you imagine the SHAME America would have to face if Billy Perv Clinton becomes America's first First Gentleman? What a joke. A shameful, DIRTY joke.
Trump said "if she lets you"
meaning they consented. AT THE TIME
gunsnewing wrote:lol... good enough for you if he said it eh? Such high standards man. Also the reason nobody has come to debunk Bill's misconduct is they don't need to. It already has been.fishmike wrote:gunsnewing wrote:why would there be shame for Bill but not for Donald who has admitted to groping, too openly treating women like dirt, to wandering around naked underage women because "he runs the pagent." Why do YOU guns find shame in Bill but not in Trump? What a joke.Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:I'm curious, isn't walking in on naked 15 year old girls against the law?? Why haven't someone arrested Donald Trump and question him about this episode..Hasn't anyone in the beauty pageant come forward?? How could that not be a criminal act??..He is a voyeur and admitted it on Howard Stern show..
If this happened in the setting of a school then it's a crime, why not in this case??
Anyone saying Hillary is a criminal is being hypocritical. Trump has allegedly done far worse things than Hillary has done, and he actually confessed on tape to one of the crimes.Can you imagine the SHAME America would have to face if Billy Perv Clinton becomes America's first First Gentleman? What a joke. A shameful, DIRTY joke.
Trump said "if she lets you"
meaning they consented. AT THE TIME
gunsnewing wrote:Plenty of women have step forward and defended Trump and the idea and accusations that he is SEXUAL PREDATOR. No one has come forward to defend wild bill and hill
So any woman can step forward and disavow another woman's claim to sexual assault??
women are still 2nd class citizens. times are changing but they still are. guys still think it's ok to talk or treat women a certain way b/c "they are trying to get laid". it's some really f cked up shit. i can't believe ANY woman would ever vote for trump b/c his behavior and comments are at a neandrethal level. he really is a disgusting pig of a person in his views about women.
and his supporters on tv behave the same way. so many people are still supporting him even tho at the time of the tape leak, they said "well i have daughters, wives and that language doesn't stand" BULLSHIT - it does stand. republicans in this race only care when they are personally attacked by trump - which proves that they don't really care about the people or what he represents.
megan kelly didn't really get upset at trump UNTIL HE DIRECTLY INSULTED HER. only then did she take him to task for his sexist behavior. all his female surrogates still let his sexist statements and behavior just slide b/c they aren't directly effect. that is BULLSHIT. kasich is one of the few men in the republican party that has principles. he said FU to trump and he'll be better off in the long run for it.
trump calling out women TO THIS DAY about their appearance is one of the most digusting things i've ever seen. i'm getting riled up just talking about it but it's really f cked up on such a deep level. and many men just don't give a fuck.
as men, we all joke around and say shit in private with the fellas but we know what's right to say and what's not right to say. this guy is a predator - plain and simple.
that's why so many republican men are pro-life, b/c they still feel the need to show power over women and control what they can do with their bodies. it's twisted and it's one of the last few ways they can still do this.
sorry for the rant but damn...i can't believe so many people are being conned by this fool.