NYTimes Op-Ed pages are liberal but the rest of the pager is legit..
mreinman wrote:Who’s Checking the Fact Checkers?http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/pete...
Isn't the author a Fox News guy??..Who wrote a piece "Why America should listen to Newt"??
You don't need science to figure out Trump is dropping the biggest whoppers ever by a political candidate..
holfresh wrote:mreinman wrote:Who’s Checking the Fact Checkers?http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/pete...
Isn't the author a Fox News guy??..Who wrote a piece "Why America should listen to Newt"??
I have no clue. Its an infinite loop. You just fact checked him but you have not fact checked politifact. Of course they are biased. Again every is.
Do republicans lie 9 times more than dems? Dems would of course say yes of course but that sounds pretty biased.
Of course any article written for or against politifact will be biased.
The very concept of objective truth is fading out of the world. Lies will pass into history.
George Orwell
mreinman wrote:holfresh wrote:mreinman wrote:Who’s Checking the Fact Checkers?http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/pete...
Isn't the author a Fox News guy??..Who wrote a piece "Why America should listen to Newt"??
I have no clue. Its an infinite loop. You just fact checked him but you have not fact checked politifact. Of course they are biased. Again every is.
Do republicans lie 9 times more than dems? Dems would of course say yes of course but that sounds pretty biased.
Of course any article written for or against politifact will be biased.
Well being that the "facts" is actually politifact business model, and lying could and would put them out of business, I tend to give them the benefit of a doubt...
mreinman wrote:holfresh wrote:mreinman wrote:holfresh wrote:mreinman wrote:Who’s Checking the Fact Checkers?http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/pete...
Isn't the author a Fox News guy??..Who wrote a piece "Why America should listen to Newt"??
I have no clue. Its an infinite loop. You just fact checked him but you have not fact checked politifact. Of course they are biased. Again every is.
Do republicans lie 9 times more than dems? Dems would of course say yes of course but that sounds pretty biased.
Of course any article written for or against politifact will be biased.
Well being that the "facts" is actually politifact business, and lying could and would put them out of business, I tend to give them the benefit of a doubt...
and thats where you err
And no facts to support your claim of course..
holfresh wrote:mreinman wrote:holfresh wrote:mreinman wrote:holfresh wrote:mreinman wrote:Who’s Checking the Fact Checkers?http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/pete...
Isn't the author a Fox News guy??..Who wrote a piece "Why America should listen to Newt"??
I have no clue. Its an infinite loop. You just fact checked him but you have not fact checked politifact. Of course they are biased. Again every is.
Do republicans lie 9 times more than dems? Dems would of course say yes of course but that sounds pretty biased.
Of course any article written for or against politifact will be biased.
Well being that the "facts" is actually politifact business, and lying could and would put them out of business, I tend to give them the benefit of a doubt...
and thats where you err
And no facts to support your claim of course..
and hence you missed the point ....
Everything comes from an ideological perspective and everything is in itself ideologically informed. Journalistic Objectivity does not exist and anyone who believes this to not be the case is by default subjective.
I mean think about it..If your boy from Fox News can prove that a respected organization like politifact is indeed bias and lies as well then it would be a major coop and can probably put them out of business..But I'm sure he has his reason why he doesn't want to expose them..
holfresh wrote:I mean think about it..If you boy from Fox News can prove that a respected organization like politifact is indeed bias and lies as well then it would be a major coop...But I'm sure he has his reason why he doesn't want to expose them..
I have no boys at Fox and I believe that all journalism is subjective not objective. That includes politifact and fox news and everyone else.
The point of showing that there are biased views that believe a subjective organization is biased ... the whole thing is silly. Whoever edits and controls each media has an ideological bias.
I read a "fact" that the Paper that runs politifact has never endorsed a Republican for president or Governor ... hmmmm.
Again, who owns what and what is their agenda / ideology? If you were objective which of course you aren't you would have done this fact checking. Saying that this their work and their reputation depends on it so therefore they must be objective is you just being lazy.
BEWARE THE MAN OF ONE STUDY (and yes, I am sure that it is subjective as well)
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/12/bew...
mreinman wrote:holfresh wrote:I mean think about it..If you boy from Fox News can prove that a respected organization like politifact is indeed bias and lies as well then it would be a major coop...But I'm sure he has his reason why he doesn't want to expose them..
I have no boys at Fox and I believe that all journalism is subjective not objective. That includes politifact and fox news and everyone else.
The point of showing that there are biased views that believe a subjective organization is biased ... the whole thing is silly. Whoever edits and controls each media has an ideological bias.
I read a "fact" that the Paper that runs politifact has never endorsed a Republican for president or Governor ... hmmmm.
Again, who owns what and what is their agenda / ideology? If you were objective which of course you aren't you would have done this fact checking. Saying that this their work and their reputation depends on it so therefore they must be objective is you just being lazy.
BEWARE THE MAN OF ONE STUDY (and yes, I am sure that it is subjective as well)
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/12/bew...
Well that seems to be the game isn't it..Try to discredit those who question your facts or lack of it..Much like how you try to equate what Fox News does with CNN and Trump's lies with Hillary's lies..
holfresh wrote:mreinman wrote:holfresh wrote:I mean think about it..If you boy from Fox News can prove that a respected organization like politifact is indeed bias and lies as well then it would be a major coop...But I'm sure he has his reason why he doesn't want to expose them..
I have no boys at Fox and I believe that all journalism is subjective not objective. That includes politifact and fox news and everyone else.
The point of showing that there are biased views that believe a subjective organization is biased ... the whole thing is silly. Whoever edits and controls each media has an ideological bias.
I read a "fact" that the Paper that runs politifact has never endorsed a Republican for president or Governor ... hmmmm.
Again, who owns what and what is their agenda / ideology? If you were objective which of course you aren't you would have done this fact checking. Saying that this their work and their reputation depends on it so therefore they must be objective is you just being lazy.
BEWARE THE MAN OF ONE STUDY (and yes, I am sure that it is subjective as well)
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/12/bew...
Well that seems to be the game isn't it..Try to discredit those who question your facts or lack of it..Much like how you try to equate what Fox News does with CNN and Trump's lies with Hillary's lies..
the game is to get people to believe that what they are selling is fact and if you don't believe it, you are a bad, ignorant person, and of course un american or not a true knick fan.
I don't equate anything since subjectivity is not measurable. People who fall victim to the belief that there is objectivity in reporting maybe a bit more quantifiable.
No idea why you think I have a bias towards Trump, I don't. I am an objective jew who likes israel. Everyone in Israel btw, are objective. They just want do gooding to go on in the world.
mreinman wrote:holfresh wrote:mreinman wrote:holfresh wrote:I mean think about it..If you boy from Fox News can prove that a respected organization like politifact is indeed bias and lies as well then it would be a major coop...But I'm sure he has his reason why he doesn't want to expose them..
I have no boys at Fox and I believe that all journalism is subjective not objective. That includes politifact and fox news and everyone else.
The point of showing that there are biased views that believe a subjective organization is biased ... the whole thing is silly. Whoever edits and controls each media has an ideological bias.
I read a "fact" that the Paper that runs politifact has never endorsed a Republican for president or Governor ... hmmmm.
Again, who owns what and what is their agenda / ideology? If you were objective which of course you aren't you would have done this fact checking. Saying that this their work and their reputation depends on it so therefore they must be objective is you just being lazy.
BEWARE THE MAN OF ONE STUDY (and yes, I am sure that it is subjective as well)
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/12/bew...
Well that seems to be the game isn't it..Try to discredit those who question your facts or lack of it..Much like how you try to equate what Fox News does with CNN and Trump's lies with Hillary's lies..
the game is to get people to believe that what they are selling is fact and if you don't believe it, you are a bad, ignorant person, and of course un american or not a true knick fan.
I don't equate anything since subjectivity is not measurable. People who fall victim to the belief that there is objectivity in reporting maybe a bit more quantifiable.
No idea why you think I have a bias towards Trump, I don't. I am an objective jew who likes israel. Everyone in Israel btw, are objective. They just want do gooding to go on in the world.
So being an objective Jew, why are you spinning the idea that Hillary hates Isreal??..Where is your proof?..Those tricky facts again...Last time you didn't respond when I asked..U gonna answer this time Crossdresser??
mreinman wrote:The very concept of objective truth is fading out of the world. Lies will pass into history. George Orwell
Hate to break it to you, but lies have been passing into history since there were people recording history.
mreinman wrote:holfresh wrote:mreinman wrote:holfresh wrote:I mean think about it..If you boy from Fox News can prove that a respected organization like politifact is indeed bias and lies as well then it would be a major coop...But I'm sure he has his reason why he doesn't want to expose them..
I have no boys at Fox and I believe that all journalism is subjective not objective. That includes politifact and fox news and everyone else.
The point of showing that there are biased views that believe a subjective organization is biased ... the whole thing is silly. Whoever edits and controls each media has an ideological bias.
I read a "fact" that the Paper that runs politifact has never endorsed a Republican for president or Governor ... hmmmm.
Again, who owns what and what is their agenda / ideology? If you were objective which of course you aren't you would have done this fact checking. Saying that this their work and their reputation depends on it so therefore they must be objective is you just being lazy.
BEWARE THE MAN OF ONE STUDY (and yes, I am sure that it is subjective as well)
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/12/bew...
Well that seems to be the game isn't it..Try to discredit those who question your facts or lack of it..Much like how you try to equate what Fox News does with CNN and Trump's lies with Hillary's lies..
the game is to get people to believe that what they are selling is fact and if you don't believe it, you are a bad, ignorant person, and of course un american or not a true knick fan.
I don't equate anything since subjectivity is not measurable. People who fall victim to the belief that there is objectivity in reporting maybe a bit more quantifiable.
No idea why you think I have a bias towards Trump, I don't. I am an objective jew who likes israel. Everyone in Israel btw, are objective. They just want do gooding to go on in the world.
You just did the same thing you accuse everyone else of. I like your initial line of reasoning that everyone is biased and there is no objectivity. I would argue, that's not limited to journalism.
But when you claim Israeli Jews are all objective do-gooders you quickly lose all the credibility you had earned with your line of reasoning.
When it comes to Israel you seem to be every bit as objective as Fox is about Trump.
