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holfresh wrote:Guilliani suggesting that Trump shouldn't show up for the rest of the debates...That's what a butt whooping feels like folks...

Here you go Briggs.......
She can be yours again!

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:By the way..Trump contradicts himself which is no surprise..He claims the economy is in shambles yet thinks the FED should raise rates...When the economy is in shambles then you lower rates..

is that really a one to one? Many other factors there such as the bond market and inflation.

I'm not sure what you mean one to one..

sometimes raising the rates can help the economy. Rates do not necessarily follow the lead of the progression of the economy.

I Played The “Drink Every Time Hillary Blinks” Game And Now I'm Dead

holfresh wrote:

arkrud wrote:

holfresh wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

holfresh wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

holfresh wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

holfresh wrote:

fishmike wrote:In reaction to Hillary calling Trump out on the bankruptcies and his reputation for stiffing people who have done work for him:

TRUMP: So, yeah, I think — I do think it’s time. Look, it’s all words, it’s all sound bites. I built an unbelievable company. Some of the greatest assets anywhere in the world, real estate assets anywhere in the world, beyond the United States, in Europe, lots of different places. It’s an unbelievable company.

But on occasion, four times, we used certain laws that are there. And when Secretary Clinton talks about people that didn’t get paid, first of all, they did get paid a lot, but taken advantage of the laws of the nation.

Now, if you want to change the laws, you’ve been there a long time, change the laws. But I take advantage of the laws of the nation because I’m running a company. My obligation right now is to do well for myself, my family, my employees, for my companies. And that’s what I do.

But what she doesn’t say is that tens of thousands of people that are unbelievably happy and that love me. I’ll give you an example... There are at least two posters on UltimateKnicks.com who know I am the man and will make America great again...

https://medium.com/@PolitiFact/politifacts-annotated-transcript-of-the-first-presidential-debate-9d7ff2fb9841#.jhk1m5reb

I get the Hillary dislike, but I am floored that anyone with an IQ above Forest Gump would go to this guy as an alternative. I will say Trump has some good ideas, he's pushing transparency in areas there needs to be more especially in calling out the Fed and Yellen for manipulating the market for political agendas. However what is his plan to implement any change? There never is one.. what is worse is if he fights the fed, rates go up (remember the 12-14% interest rates during Regan's 80s? Any home owners grasp what that means?)... that bubble he talks about pops, and what is Don going to do to combat the ensuing recession/depression? He's going to ensure the wealthy stay wealthy. He has said this. If Briggs has some serious holdings that would explain the Trump love. That's just cash straight into the pockets.

Ha...He is wrong about that too...Yellen is not manipulating the market with low interest rates for political agendas..Thats nonsense...They will raise in December and the stock market won't tank for those reasons but will tank for other reasons...

Yellen and past Fed Chairs have manipulated the market with low interest rates. The political agenda stuff was hyperbole. Fed has its own agenda.

Global interest rates are zero to negative...We are on a raising trajectory while others are cutting...It not manipulation It's call management of the economy...

Management not manipulation, LOL OK. Because the impact of this management is so transparent to the general populace being impacted by it.

Well you have to explain why it manipulation don't you??..Inflation etc.??

Not sure what you are asking, clarify your question?

What evidence do you have to say it's manipulation?

How manipulation is different from management?
Both are manipulations...

Management is taking all the economic indicators and non-economic indicators to make a decision on rates like payrolls report, CPI data, Brexit which if e raise rates in July ahead of Brexit could have had an negative impact on the stock market...Manipulation is when you have no reason for your course of action..You folks act like economist don't sit around and evaluate the outcome after every meeting..

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionar...

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:By the way..Trump contradicts himself which is no surprise..He claims the economy is in shambles yet thinks the FED should raise rates...When the economy is in shambles then you lower rates..

is that really a one to one? Many other factors there such as the bond market and inflation.

I'm not sure what you mean one to one..

sometimes raising the rates can help the economy. Rates do not necessarily follow the lead of the progression of the economy.

Lowering rates is only really helping the banks. It is encouraging them to take more and more unrealistic risks and generate even more profit for themselves. It has almost no benefit for the average Joe. Wasn't always like this, but this how shit works now, it's the new normal. More wealth is being created and the middle-class is getting poorer as a percent of the overall economy.

meloshouldgo wrote:

holfresh wrote:

arkrud wrote:

holfresh wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

holfresh wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

holfresh wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

holfresh wrote:

fishmike wrote:In reaction to Hillary calling Trump out on the bankruptcies and his reputation for stiffing people who have done work for him:

TRUMP: So, yeah, I think — I do think it’s time. Look, it’s all words, it’s all sound bites. I built an unbelievable company. Some of the greatest assets anywhere in the world, real estate assets anywhere in the world, beyond the United States, in Europe, lots of different places. It’s an unbelievable company.

But on occasion, four times, we used certain laws that are there. And when Secretary Clinton talks about people that didn’t get paid, first of all, they did get paid a lot, but taken advantage of the laws of the nation.

Now, if you want to change the laws, you’ve been there a long time, change the laws. But I take advantage of the laws of the nation because I’m running a company. My obligation right now is to do well for myself, my family, my employees, for my companies. And that’s what I do.

But what she doesn’t say is that tens of thousands of people that are unbelievably happy and that love me. I’ll give you an example... There are at least two posters on UltimateKnicks.com who know I am the man and will make America great again...

https://medium.com/@PolitiFact/politifacts-annotated-transcript-of-the-first-presidential-debate-9d7ff2fb9841#.jhk1m5reb

I get the Hillary dislike, but I am floored that anyone with an IQ above Forest Gump would go to this guy as an alternative. I will say Trump has some good ideas, he's pushing transparency in areas there needs to be more especially in calling out the Fed and Yellen for manipulating the market for political agendas. However what is his plan to implement any change? There never is one.. what is worse is if he fights the fed, rates go up (remember the 12-14% interest rates during Regan's 80s? Any home owners grasp what that means?)... that bubble he talks about pops, and what is Don going to do to combat the ensuing recession/depression? He's going to ensure the wealthy stay wealthy. He has said this. If Briggs has some serious holdings that would explain the Trump love. That's just cash straight into the pockets.

Ha...He is wrong about that too...Yellen is not manipulating the market with low interest rates for political agendas..Thats nonsense...They will raise in December and the stock market won't tank for those reasons but will tank for other reasons...

Yellen and past Fed Chairs have manipulated the market with low interest rates. The political agenda stuff was hyperbole. Fed has its own agenda.

Global interest rates are zero to negative...We are on a raising trajectory while others are cutting...It not manipulation It's call management of the economy...

Management not manipulation, LOL OK. Because the impact of this management is so transparent to the general populace being impacted by it.

Well you have to explain why it manipulation don't you??..Inflation etc.??

Not sure what you are asking, clarify your question?

What evidence do you have to say it's manipulation?

How manipulation is different from management?
Both are manipulations...

Management is taking all the economic indicators and non-economic indicators to make a decision on rates like payrolls report, CPI data, Brexit which if e raise rates in July ahead of Brexit could have had an negative impact on the stock market...Manipulation is when you have no reason for your course of action..You folks act like economist don't sit around and evaluate the outcome after every meeting..

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionar...

Little bit of a cop out to claim manipulation and offer no proof..

meloshouldgo wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:By the way..Trump contradicts himself which is no surprise..He claims the economy is in shambles yet thinks the FED should raise rates...When the economy is in shambles then you lower rates..

is that really a one to one? Many other factors there such as the bond market and inflation.

I'm not sure what you mean one to one..

sometimes raising the rates can help the economy. Rates do not necessarily follow the lead of the progression of the economy.

Lowering rates is only really helping the banks. It is encouraging them to take more and more unrealistic risks and generate even more profit for themselves. It has almost no benefit for the average Joe. Wasn't always like this, but this how shit works now, it's the new normal. More wealth is being created and the middle-class is getting poorer as a percent of the overall economy.

No..Banks make more money when rates are higher..they can charge higher interest on their products.. A low interest rate environment helps consumers and business because loans are cheaper..People buy houses and car etc..Rates are kept low to spur economic growth..Low rate helps the stock market as well..People invest in equities when yield is low which is why Trump refer to a stock market bubble...etc..

holfresh wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

holfresh wrote:

arkrud wrote:

holfresh wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

holfresh wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

holfresh wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

holfresh wrote:

fishmike wrote:In reaction to Hillary calling Trump out on the bankruptcies and his reputation for stiffing people who have done work for him:

TRUMP: So, yeah, I think — I do think it’s time. Look, it’s all words, it’s all sound bites. I built an unbelievable company. Some of the greatest assets anywhere in the world, real estate assets anywhere in the world, beyond the United States, in Europe, lots of different places. It’s an unbelievable company.

But on occasion, four times, we used certain laws that are there. And when Secretary Clinton talks about people that didn’t get paid, first of all, they did get paid a lot, but taken advantage of the laws of the nation.

Now, if you want to change the laws, you’ve been there a long time, change the laws. But I take advantage of the laws of the nation because I’m running a company. My obligation right now is to do well for myself, my family, my employees, for my companies. And that’s what I do.

But what she doesn’t say is that tens of thousands of people that are unbelievably happy and that love me. I’ll give you an example... There are at least two posters on UltimateKnicks.com who know I am the man and will make America great again...

https://medium.com/@PolitiFact/politifacts-annotated-transcript-of-the-first-presidential-debate-9d7ff2fb9841#.jhk1m5reb

I get the Hillary dislike, but I am floored that anyone with an IQ above Forest Gump would go to this guy as an alternative. I will say Trump has some good ideas, he's pushing transparency in areas there needs to be more especially in calling out the Fed and Yellen for manipulating the market for political agendas. However what is his plan to implement any change? There never is one.. what is worse is if he fights the fed, rates go up (remember the 12-14% interest rates during Regan's 80s? Any home owners grasp what that means?)... that bubble he talks about pops, and what is Don going to do to combat the ensuing recession/depression? He's going to ensure the wealthy stay wealthy. He has said this. If Briggs has some serious holdings that would explain the Trump love. That's just cash straight into the pockets.

Ha...He is wrong about that too...Yellen is not manipulating the market with low interest rates for political agendas..Thats nonsense...They will raise in December and the stock market won't tank for those reasons but will tank for other reasons...

Yellen and past Fed Chairs have manipulated the market with low interest rates. The political agenda stuff was hyperbole. Fed has its own agenda.

Global interest rates are zero to negative...We are on a raising trajectory while others are cutting...It not manipulation It's call management of the economy...

Management not manipulation, LOL OK. Because the impact of this management is so transparent to the general populace being impacted by it.

Well you have to explain why it manipulation don't you??..Inflation etc.??

Not sure what you are asking, clarify your question?

What evidence do you have to say it's manipulation?

How manipulation is different from management?
Both are manipulations...

Management is taking all the economic indicators and non-economic indicators to make a decision on rates like payrolls report, CPI data, Brexit which if e raise rates in July ahead of Brexit could have had an negative impact on the stock market...Manipulation is when you have no reason for your course of action..You folks act like economist don't sit around and evaluate the outcome after every meeting..

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionar...

Little bit of a cop out to claim manipulation and offer no proof..

No cop out, you seem to be confused about what the word means. Take those definitions and tell me you need evidence that that's what the Fed does.

holfresh wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:By the way..Trump contradicts himself which is no surprise..He claims the economy is in shambles yet thinks the FED should raise rates...When the economy is in shambles then you lower rates..

is that really a one to one? Many other factors there such as the bond market and inflation.

I'm not sure what you mean one to one..

sometimes raising the rates can help the economy. Rates do not necessarily follow the lead of the progression of the economy.

Lowering rates is only really helping the banks. It is encouraging them to take more and more unrealistic risks and generate even more profit for themselves. It has almost no benefit for the average Joe. Wasn't always like this, but this how shit works now, it's the new normal. More wealth is being created and the middle-class is getting poorer as a percent of the overall economy.

No..Banks make more money when rates are higher..they can charge higher interest on their products.. A low interest rate environment helps consumers and business because loans are cheaper..People buy houses and car etc..Rates are kept low to spur economic growth..Low rate helps the stock market as well..People invest in equities when yield is low which is why Trump refer to a stock market bubble...etc..

You may want to check your facts. Banks make money by charging a premium on top of one of the basic rates most frequently the 10 year bond rate. When the bond rate is 2℅ and the market supports 4℅ they are making 2℅ profit. When the bond rate is zero percent in the same market they are making 4℅ profit. As the bond rate goes higher the lending rate goes higher demand falls they make less money.

meloshouldgo wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:By the way..Trump contradicts himself which is no surprise..He claims the economy is in shambles yet thinks the FED should raise rates...When the economy is in shambles then you lower rates..

is that really a one to one? Many other factors there such as the bond market and inflation.

I'm not sure what you mean one to one..

sometimes raising the rates can help the economy. Rates do not necessarily follow the lead of the progression of the economy.

Lowering rates is only really helping the banks. It is encouraging them to take more and more unrealistic risks and generate even more profit for themselves. It has almost no benefit for the average Joe. Wasn't always like this, but this how shit works now, it's the new normal. More wealth is being created and the middle-class is getting poorer as a percent of the overall economy.

it affects you in many ways such as your mortgage or car loan.

Bonn1997 wrote:If you want a chuckle, Google "Donald Trump bigly"

mreinman wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:By the way..Trump contradicts himself which is no surprise..He claims the economy is in shambles yet thinks the FED should raise rates...When the economy is in shambles then you lower rates..

is that really a one to one? Many other factors there such as the bond market and inflation.

I'm not sure what you mean one to one..

sometimes raising the rates can help the economy. Rates do not necessarily follow the lead of the progression of the economy.

Lowering rates is only really helping the banks. It is encouraging them to take more and more unrealistic risks and generate even more profit for themselves. It has almost no benefit for the average Joe. Wasn't always like this, but this how shit works now, it's the new normal. More wealth is being created and the middle-class is getting poorer as a percent of the overall economy.

it affects you in many ways such as your mortgage or car loan.

More debt, is truly not the solution. Cheaper debt only leads to people buying more things they can't really afford.

meloshouldgo wrote:Additionally banks also get to borrow money at the prime rate (10 yr bond) and then put those into risky investments that yield double digit returns.

Wrong but I'll leave it alone...

meloshouldgo wrote:

mreinman wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:By the way..Trump contradicts himself which is no surprise..He claims the economy is in shambles yet thinks the FED should raise rates...When the economy is in shambles then you lower rates..

is that really a one to one? Many other factors there such as the bond market and inflation.

I'm not sure what you mean one to one..

sometimes raising the rates can help the economy. Rates do not necessarily follow the lead of the progression of the economy.

Lowering rates is only really helping the banks. It is encouraging them to take more and more unrealistic risks and generate even more profit for themselves. It has almost no benefit for the average Joe. Wasn't always like this, but this how shit works now, it's the new normal. More wealth is being created and the middle-class is getting poorer as a percent of the overall economy.

it affects you in many ways such as your mortgage or car loan.

More debt, is truly not the solution. Cheaper debt only leads to people buying more things they can't really afford.

Why more debt? You need a mortgage, I think that 3% is much better and cheaper than 6%, no? :-)

holfresh wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Additionally banks also get to borrow money at the prime rate (10 yr bond) and then put those into risky investments that yield double digit returns.

Wrong but I'll leave it alone...

Wow, talk about cop outs.

mreinman wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

mreinman wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:By the way..Trump contradicts himself which is no surprise..He claims the economy is in shambles yet thinks the FED should raise rates...When the economy is in shambles then you lower rates..

is that really a one to one? Many other factors there such as the bond market and inflation.

I'm not sure what you mean one to one..

sometimes raising the rates can help the economy. Rates do not necessarily follow the lead of the progression of the economy.

Lowering rates is only really helping the banks. It is encouraging them to take more and more unrealistic risks and generate even more profit for themselves. It has almost no benefit for the average Joe. Wasn't always like this, but this how shit works now, it's the new normal. More wealth is being created and the middle-class is getting poorer as a percent of the overall economy.

it affects you in many ways such as your mortgage or car loan.

More debt, is truly not the solution. Cheaper debt only leads to people buying more things they can't really afford.

Why more debt? You need a mortgage, I think that 3% is much better and cheaper than 6%, no? :-)

Because instead of getting a 200K house at 6%,people end up with a 350K house at 2.5% - but their down payment is the same , typically that equates to more debt.

meloshouldgo wrote:

mreinman wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

mreinman wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:By the way..Trump contradicts himself which is no surprise..He claims the economy is in shambles yet thinks the FED should raise rates...When the economy is in shambles then you lower rates..

is that really a one to one? Many other factors there such as the bond market and inflation.

I'm not sure what you mean one to one..

sometimes raising the rates can help the economy. Rates do not necessarily follow the lead of the progression of the economy.

Lowering rates is only really helping the banks. It is encouraging them to take more and more unrealistic risks and generate even more profit for themselves. It has almost no benefit for the average Joe. Wasn't always like this, but this how shit works now, it's the new normal. More wealth is being created and the middle-class is getting poorer as a percent of the overall economy.

it affects you in many ways such as your mortgage or car loan.

More debt, is truly not the solution. Cheaper debt only leads to people buying more things they can't really afford.

Why more debt? You need a mortgage, I think that 3% is much better and cheaper than 6%, no? :-)

Because instead of getting a 200K house at 6%,people end up with a 350K house at 2.5% - but their down payment is the same , typically that equates to more debt.

c'mon, you know its not that simplistic and that the real estate market is not directly linked to interest rate fluctuations. Low rates are great for everyone however it needs to be balanced/moved to best limit inflation.