This is quite interesting. I would assume that they feel they need more vet experience and will likely send a young guy like Marshall to the D League. We'll see how this shakes out in camp tho. Lou could just be a solid camp body if he can't outplay the younger bigs.
Wtf for, he couldn't even get a overseas contact, this guy sucks so bad, I actually blame him and sasha of playing the knicks right into the bottom of the conference.
Cmon on phil this is a bs signing,
knicks1248 wrote:Wtf for, he couldn't even get a overseas contact, this guy sucks so bad, I actually blame him and sasha of playing the knicks right into the bottom of the conference. Cmon on phil this is a bs signing,
He knows the system and is a camp body. It remains to be seen if he even makes the roster. I don't think there's anything wrong with guys you already know coming to camp as extra bodies. That could be all this is. He's a good dude and can help show new guys what to do so don't forget that aspect of his presence in practice during this time period and trainging camp.
I like Lou but I was hoping Randle or Baker would make the roster. The Knicks need another ball handler. The roster is well stocked with bigs.
Has Lou played for Hornacek if not then he doesn't know his system. Also, if this is just a camp body thing then okay but their is no way he should make the final roster over any young player. I am not a big Plumlee fan but he should get a spot over Lou and Lou should not get in over Baker or Randle either. imo
Mistake, we need shooters, I don't see how Amundsen adds anything to this team. We have enough vets already and the experience of a career scrub isn't that valuable to young players anyway.
Dagger wrote:Mistake, we need shooters, I don't see how Amundsen adds anything to this team. We have enough vets already and the experience of a career scrub isn't that valuable to young players anyway.
seen through the light of just a practice/training camp body, what is your take?
Terms were not disclosed but "Reported" one year fully guarantee. Have to assume min deal.
Our bench has enough yoot and we really don't know the full extent to the contract.
If Lou and Sasha were the down fall of the team last year, then "Really"?
I doubt that. These are guys that will sit and be good practice players to Develop the other guys.
As for guys fighting for a spot? They can go Dleague and perhaps get a chance down the road. To sit on the bench and waste does not really help their careers. They might be better taking an overseas deal or Dleague.
They get antsy as well. Vets like these guys are good to develop yoots, don't complain and practice hard at a low price.
He has played for 11 Teams!!!!!
yellowboy90 wrote:Has Lou played for Hornacek if not then he doesn't know his system. Also, if this is just a camp body thing then okay but their is no way he should make the final roster over any young player. I am not a big Plumlee fan but he should get a spot over Lou and Lou should not get in over Baker or Randle either. imo
It was CLEARLY Stated that they're still gonna run Triangle, but simply with greater spacing. An experienced Vet like Lou who has played in MULTIPLE systems over his career can indeed help a coach to demonstrate things to young guys and guys who have Zero NBA experience. I think people are overreacting to this. It's a smart move for Training Camp. This doesn't mean he's going to actually take up a roster spot. We'll have to see what happens. Also Randle could have his spot already pretty much set in stone for all we know.
Player Age
1. Derrick Rose 27
2. Courtney Lee 30
3. Carmelo Anthony 32
4. Kristaps Porzingis 21
5. Joakim Noah 316. Brandon Jennings 26
7. Lance Thomas 28
8. Justin Holiday 27
9. Kyle O'Quinn 26
10. Mindaugas Kuzminskas 26
11. Willy Hernangomez 22
12. Maurice Daly Ndour 24
13. Sasha Vujacic 32
14. Chasson Randle 23
15. Ron Baker 23
16. Marshall Plumlee 24
17. J.P. Tokoto 23
18. Lou Amundson 33
Nalod wrote:Terms were not disclosed but "Reported" one year fully guarantee. Have to assume min deal.
Our bench has enough yoot and we really don't know the full extent to the contract.If Lou and Sasha were the down fall of the team last year, then "Really"?
I doubt that. These are guys that will sit and be good practice players to Develop the other guys.
As for guys fighting for a spot? They can go Dleague and perhaps get a chance down the road. To sit on the bench and waste does not really help their careers. They might be better taking an overseas deal or Dleague.
They get antsy as well. Vets like these guys are good to develop yoots, don't complain and practice hard at a low price.
He has played for 11 Teams!!!!!
The Knicks have two point guards and I guess Sasha to handle the ball. If you count Kristaps as a 5 they already had 5 guys to play the 5. They have 7 guys on their roster that can play the 4. Hornacek liked playing two point guard line ups in Phoenix. This doesn't make a lot of sense unless a trade is happening.
CrushAlot wrote:I like Lou but I was hoping Randle or Baker would make the roster. The Knicks need another ball handler. The roster is well stocked with bigs.
Right. I don't get this at all. Just read it's a 1-yr fully guaranteed contract. To me, 'guaranteed' means here to stay for the year -- I don't think Dolan would consent to giving anyone guaranteed money, even a 1-yr deal at the minimum, and then waiving said player after training camp. Maybe I'm wrong but I just don't see Dolan throwing Lou a bone like that. Don't even think that's what Phil has in mind either. I think Phil, for whatever reason, believes he's a keeper, worth tying up a roster spot with for the season...3 moves I just don't get in all honesty: giving guaranteed money to Vujacic, Marshall Plumlee (I believe Plumlee got 3 years guaranteed) and now Amundson.
What a strange move -- nice guy, good locker room guy, good practice body -- that very well may be, but to me, that wouldn't be nearly enough to warrant bringing a guy back at guaranteed money and tying up a roster spot if that's all a guy had to offer. A player's got to give me something more than that to warrant guaranteed money and a spot on the 15-man, even if it's just on potential alone. I'm not nearly as big on minor intangible stuff like that as some of you guys (like the rumor that we resigned Vujacic because it's good for KP. Come on--KP doesn't need a babysitter!). Lou's not a good player, that's the bottom line. I don't even see how he'd get any time. Who's he ever playing over? I wouldn't even want him playing over N'Dour -- Mo N'Dour's 10x more talented on both ends... Maybe if we were the top team in the league and the rest of our roster was already top shelf ready to go, then whatever, OK bring Lou back for the year. It wouldn't even matter. That's not the case here. And you can't tell me we're only interested in team full of choir boys -- then why make the big trade for D-Rose?
So that's that -- I think the roster's set now at 15 pretty much. My main thing -- what happens if there's ever a scenario where Rose and Jennings are both out at the same time for a stretch? Who drives the bus then? A lot of time, effort, trade assets and money went into reshaping this roster -- it would be a shame to have a scenario where we're without Rose AND Jennings for a stretch and not have someone waiting in the wings that can adequately steer the ship. Completely agree--we really needed another ball-handler to complete this roster, preferably someone in the same vein as Rose/Jennings this way we could still maintain an uptempo/fast paced style (which is why I was starting to warm up to the idea of signing Chasson Randle--I think he would've fit that bill). Can't believe Phil doesn't see it the same way, unless he's already gotten a commitment by Randle and/or Baker to play for Westchester, where they'd be down there ready to go at a moment's notice. Are either of those guys OK with that, enough to turn down guaranteed money in Europe for the year/multiple years or a chance to make another NBA team? I wouldn't be surprised if either Randle or Baker bolted overseas or signed with another NBA team now.
CrushAlot wrote:
Seriously. I can't believe they did that either.
Finestrg wrote:CrushAlot wrote:
Seriously. I can't believe they did that either.
Minimum salary... what's the big deal?
EnySpree wrote:Finestrg wrote:CrushAlot wrote:
Seriously. I can't believe they did that either.
Minimum salary... what's the big deal?
This is just the very logical move when you have guys you may want to send to the D League and keep them from going overseas. You give them some real money and they can stay in your program. As I posted earlier this Training Camp roster has some guys that are clearly not going to stick with the team, but could easily play for Westchester.
Player Age
1. Derrick Rose 27
2. Courtney Lee 30
3. Carmelo Anthony 32
4. Kristaps Porzingis 21
5. Joakim Noah 316. Brandon Jennings 26
7. Lance Thomas 28
8. Justin Holiday 27
9. Kyle O'Quinn 26
10. Mindaugas Kuzminskas 26
11. Willy Hernangomez 22
12. Maurice Daly Ndour 24
13. Sasha Vujacic 32
14. Chasson Randle 23
15. Ron Baker 23
16. Marshall Plumlee 24
17. J.P. Tokoto 23
18. Lou Amundson 33
No problem with Lou but I wish they would use this spot for trying out youngsters and trying to hit on an unknown ...
Anyways, I love the auto cosigns with each and every move.
EnySpree wrote:Finestrg wrote:CrushAlot wrote:
Seriously. I can't believe they did that either.
Minimum salary... what's the big deal?
I don't get it the big deal either. Why would anyone care about Knicks giving guys guaranteed money that doesn't affect the salary cap? It's not coming out of our wallets, yet some people act like it is. If they want to sign an entire D-league team with guaranteed salaries to prevent them from going overseas or signing with another team, why would anyone care?
mreinman wrote:No problem with Lou but I wish they would use this spot for trying out youngsters and trying to hit on an unknown ... Anyways, I love the auto cosigns with each and every move.
As I posted above this roster doesn't really have many roster spots up for grabs, so who is it that you think they should be "trying out" or that is "unknown" out there? I'm just curious who you could be referring to. By now most of the guys out there have been scrapped from the bottom of the barrell and are on rosters or headed to Europe.
Lou is a d-league player. Cut him and make him a coach after camp.
yellowboy90 wrote:Lou is a d-league player. Cut him and make him a coach after camp.
thought we could use a vet PG (like Steve Blake?), or sign Randle or Baker (type) if they had a good camp. Lou's deal is guaranteed.
