Willy needs to get that midrange shot going really well to ensure he can come in as a closer over Noah. You're right when you say his inability to shoot the rock means the other C can just peel away and D up someone else down the stretch.
Killa4luv wrote:Should've fed Melo soon as he came back in the game. When they doubled KP looked like no one knew what to do. That's coaching.
True. But also one of the first times we've seen that. It was clear Noah wasn't ready for it - he should've been diving to the rim. Easy enough to fix.
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Free Throw Attempts: Tor - 38 NYK - 16 -22Last night: Bos - 43 NYK - 17 -26
You can't win like this. How much is this home cooking from the refs, I'm not sure, but it's impossible to win with this discrepancy.
I thought these numbers would change with two attack guards like rose and Jennings but so far that hasn't really been the case. Will be an interesting stat to monitor going forward especially home vs. away.
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Free Throw Attempts: Tor - 38 NYK - 16 -22Last night: Bos - 43 NYK - 17 -26
You can't win like this. How much is this home cooking from the refs, I'm not sure, but it's impossible to win with this discrepancy.
Haha just posted the same thing.
Tonight I didn't think the game was poorly called, except maybe the stretch where Lee picked up 3 fouls in 90 seconds in the third quarter. Though most of those even seemed to be legit.
Toronto played well tonight.
Last night in Boston was one of the worst reffed games I've seen in 25 years of watching the NBA.
Killa4luv wrote:Should've fed Melo soon as he came back in the game. When they doubled KP looked like no one knew what to do. That's coaching.
not really. When they doubled kp he found the open guys. Near the end we went back to iso and predictibly paid for it
Dagger wrote:SocraticBallin22 wrote:Free Throw Attempts: Tor - 38 NYK - 16 -22Last night: Bos - 43 NYK - 17 -26
You can't win like this. How much is this home cooking from the refs, I'm not sure, but it's impossible to win with this discrepancy.
I thought these numbers would change with two attack guards like rose and Jennings but so far that hasn't really been the case. Will be an interesting stat to monitor going forward especially home vs. away.
I wish the Knicks would get some calls when they are the home team.
Good to see they were competitive early in the season against the Raptors..Knicks will look differently in January when they figure a few things out..Rose doesn't have his legs yet, he isn't finishing..
Killa4luv wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Breen two nights in a row pointing out poor officiating.
The apocalypse is upon us.
Not constructive. It's a legitimate point. Raptors had like 2.5 X the free throws and we were aggressive tonight. Pales in comparison to yesterday. But still seems like a fair point
Having said that we need to stay focused and especially the players. Too much complaining by them. They lose their focus and the refs just get more pissed
I saw some good things tonight even tho they still have a long way to go. They still have breakdowns on both ends that are killing them. It's mostly very fixable mistakes and poor execution.
3-6
Then 5-12
Then 7-18
And then Hornaceck is fored and the season is
Same script
Knicks need a defensive alternative to KP..He really can't keep up with these quicker 4s..And not N'Dour..
nixluva wrote:I saw some good things tonight even tho they still have a long way to go. They still have breakdowns on both ends that are killing them. It's mostly very fixable mistakes and poor execution.
my main concern is the defense. They have a lot of poor defenders so its tough to cover that up
holfresh wrote:Good to see they were competitive early in the season against the Raptors..Knicks will look differently in January when they figure a few things out..Rose doesn't have his legs yet, he isn't finishing..
The longer they play together and Hornacek gets to see what works and what doesn't, the better they're going to get. The bench is getting more in the swing of things with every game. Willy and Kuz are getting much needed experience.
Chandler wrote:Killa4luv wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Breen two nights in a row pointing out poor officiating.
The apocalypse is upon us.
Not constructive. It's a legitimate point. Raptors had like 2.5 X the free throws and we were aggressive tonight. Pales in comparison to yesterday. But still seems like a fair point
Having said that we need to stay focused and especially the players. Too much complaining by them. They lose their focus and the refs just get more pissed
agreed. Complaining doesnt help and only pisses the refs off more
StarksEwing1 wrote:Chandler wrote:Killa4luv wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Breen two nights in a row pointing out poor officiating.
The apocalypse is upon us.
Not constructive. It's a legitimate point. Raptors had like 2.5 X the free throws and we were aggressive tonight. Pales in comparison to yesterday. But still seems like a fair point
Having said that we need to stay focused and especially the players. Too much complaining by them. They lose their focus and the refs just get more pissed
agreed. Complaining doesnt help and only pisses the refs off more
Yeah, with Melo and now Jennings... the Knicks are one of those annoying teams that complains about every call. Like the Clippers, but without the wins.
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Free Throw Attempts: Tor - 38 NYK - 16 -22Last night: Bos - 43 NYK - 17 -26
You can't win like this. How much is this home cooking from the refs, I'm not sure, but it's impossible to win with this discrepancy.
This is true. Knicks need to tighten things up. Stop playing D w their hands
And the refs will meet the half way. I thought tonight refs had some home cooking.
Last night was out of control horrible refs (and Knicks did themselves no favors)
They can fix this. And sometime this year we might feel like the beneficiary of home cooking
There is real potential for this team.
Dudes complaining about ISO..Quick lesson, Melo had a matchup advantage which the Knicks successfully went to..It's the same match up that KP had late in the 4th becuase they put Patterson on Melo..So KP had Powell on him, so the Knicks went to KP because of the matchup..Basketball 101..
StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:I saw some good things tonight even tho they still have a long way to go. They still have breakdowns on both ends that are killing them. It's mostly very fixable mistakes and poor execution.
my main concern is the defense. They have a lot of poor defenders so its tough to cover that up
True but they can still improve as a team and develop better defensive chemistry as the season Progresses. They still have a lot to learn but I can see progress already. It doesn't look like they have the roster to be a very good defensive team, so they've got to get a LOT better offensively.
The bad stretches of offense are not allowing them to take advantage of the times they've actually defended well!!! They had chances to extend a lead but didn't score.
crzymdups wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:Chandler wrote:Killa4luv wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Breen two nights in a row pointing out poor officiating.
The apocalypse is upon us.
Not constructive. It's a legitimate point. Raptors had like 2.5 X the free throws and we were aggressive tonight. Pales in comparison to yesterday. But still seems like a fair point
Having said that we need to stay focused and especially the players. Too much complaining by them. They lose their focus and the refs just get more pissed
agreed. Complaining doesnt help and only pisses the refs off more
Yeah, with Melo and now Jennings... the Knicks are one of those annoying teams that complains about every call. Like the Clippers, but without the wins.
i understand frustration but they gotta just take a deep breath and concentrate on the game
Knicks67 wrote:Willy needs to get that midrange shot going really well to ensure he can come in as a closer over Noah. You're right when you say his inability to shoot the rock means the other C can just peel away and D up someone else down the stretch.
im not sure I wholly agree. When the opponent peels why isn't that an alley op opportunity for Noah
I think that's what we would see from the opponent. I think we need just a little more time before we see and even anticipate and exploit these opportunities.
