Knicks · OT: Politics Thread (page 11)
gunsnewing wrote:6 more weeks until America is great again
Yes...the swamp is getting "swampier" and the Alt-Racists have found a new home.
earthmansurfer wrote:Walt, here is some Fake News straight from the horses mouth and verified. CNN of course, regarding Cincinatti protest. Original articles below. CNN lied, pretty cold to be dressed like that and someone caught it and found the original pic.
December 2nd
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politi...
From November - Same picture.
http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/11/...http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/p...
The mainstream media and politicians peddling the line that there is a network of “fake news” sites spreading Russian disinformation and propaganda is just scapegoating to divert attention from the far worse job they have done objectively reporting the truth, Ron Paul told RT yesterday. He added:
"The fake news comes from our own government, when they tell us about why we have to go to war. …And that was probably the big issue of the campaign, and that’s why Trump did so well. [Americans have] lost confidence in the government."
You talk about the media and fake news and lies etc, but an honest question: do you genuinely believe that Trump tells the truth? What sort of percentage of the time?
smackeddog wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Walt, here is some Fake News straight from the horses mouth and verified. CNN of course, regarding Cincinatti protest. Original articles below. CNN lied, pretty cold to be dressed like that and someone caught it and found the original pic.
December 2nd
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politi...
From November - Same picture.
http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/11/...http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/p...
The mainstream media and politicians peddling the line that there is a network of “fake news” sites spreading Russian disinformation and propaganda is just scapegoating to divert attention from the far worse job they have done objectively reporting the truth, Ron Paul told RT yesterday. He added:
"The fake news comes from our own government, when they tell us about why we have to go to war. …And that was probably the big issue of the campaign, and that’s why Trump did so well. [Americans have] lost confidence in the government."You talk about the media and fake news and lies etc, but an honest question: do you genuinely believe that Trump tells the truth? What sort of percentage of the time?
Most of the numbers I was reading before the election had Trump's statements at 70-75% lying rate, higher by far than anyone else involved in this election.
This recent comment by one of his spokespeople might be as troubling to think about as anything Trump has even said... The essence of "post-truth" America.
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/vid...
"Well, I think it's also an idea of an opinion. And that's—on one hand, I hear half the media saying that these are lies. But on the other half, there are many people that go, 'No, it's true.' And so one thing that has been interesting this entire campaign season to watch, is that people that say facts are facts—they're not really facts. Everybody has a way—it's kind of like looking at ratings, or looking at a glass of half-full water. Everybody has a way of interpreting them to be the truth, or not truth. There's no such thing, unfortunately, anymore as facts."And so Mr. Trump's tweet, amongst a certain crowd—a large part of the population—are truth. When he says that millions of people illegally voted, he has some—amongst him and his supporters, and people believe they have facts to back that up. Those that do not like Mr. Trump, they say that those are lies and that there are no facts to back it up."
earthmansurfer wrote:Walt, here is some Fake News straight from the horses mouth and verified. CNN of course, regarding Cincinatti protest. Original articles below. CNN lied, pretty cold to be dressed like that and someone caught it and found the original pic.
December 2nd
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politi...
From November - Same picture.
http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/11/...http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/p...
The mainstream media and politicians peddling the line that there is a network of “fake news” sites spreading Russian disinformation and propaganda is just scapegoating to divert attention from the far worse job they have done objectively reporting the truth, Ron Paul told RT yesterday. He added:
"The fake news comes from our own government, when they tell us about why we have to go to war. …And that was probably the big issue of the campaign, and that’s why Trump did so well. [Americans have] lost confidence in the government."
The news about people protesting in Cincinnati isn't fake..It's real, CNN posted the wrong picture..Is it intentional? I don't know...But other news sites have video of people protesting In Cincinnati on a "cold day", if you want to have a look....
djsunyc wrote:life has changed for trump supporters. media is full of lies. trump says the truth.the question is...why are most trump supporters believing this?
Trump supporters invested time and emotion into electing him...to suddenly step back and look at him objectively, is asking too much, I would think.
Lets face it, he has also conditioned them to hate and not believe the media, EVEN THOUGH, they have been his BEST friend. Take a look at media coverage for Trump vs Clinton:
There are other charts and studies- Harvard did one- which show how much free coverage Trump got compared to everyone else. He might not have gotten out of the primaries without the free publicity...The president of CBS- Les Moonves basically said that covering Trump might not be good for the nation, but it was good for CBS ratings.
Media only cares about ratings, now...they will show the very rallies where he mocks and humiliates them...we are talking about an abusive relationship where the spouse continues to remain with the abuser.
WaltLongmire wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Walt, here is some Fake News straight from the horses mouth and verified. CNN of course, regarding Cincinatti protest. Original articles below. CNN lied, pretty cold to be dressed like that and someone caught it and found the original pic.
December 2nd
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politi...
From November - Same picture.
http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/11/...http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/p...
The mainstream media and politicians peddling the line that there is a network of “fake news” sites spreading Russian disinformation and propaganda is just scapegoating to divert attention from the far worse job they have done objectively reporting the truth, Ron Paul told RT yesterday. He added:
"The fake news comes from our own government, when they tell us about why we have to go to war. …And that was probably the big issue of the campaign, and that’s why Trump did so well. [Americans have] lost confidence in the government."
Simple question...will tell us everything about where you are coming from...Do you accept that during the election, WikiLeaks(Assange) was passing along stolen data that was hacked by Russians, designed to influence the election, and distributed to Assange with the go-ahead from former KGB operative Putin?
Personally, I don't think Russia was behind it. The US Government agrees. Actually, there is reason to believe that a US Intelligence Agency released the information as they saw the deep corruption and had to put an end to it. No proof of that theory, just like the Russian theory.
Clinton had her server hacked, probably by lots of people, not to mention State agencies, regardless of who did it, she got what she asked for. The law she broke was not only there so we can access that data via the FOIA, but also to protect her. Ironic.
But you sound like the DNC. Instead of addressing the corruption, Quid Pro Quo, #Pizzagate allegations, etc., you are more concerned about who released the true information rather than the corruption and all that it states went on. My priorities are with a non corrupt government, not who hacked their server to show corruption, State actor or not.
earthmansurfer wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Walt, here is some Fake News straight from the horses mouth and verified. CNN of course, regarding Cincinatti protest. Original articles below. CNN lied, pretty cold to be dressed like that and someone caught it and found the original pic.
December 2nd
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politi...
From November - Same picture.
http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/11/...http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/p...
The mainstream media and politicians peddling the line that there is a network of “fake news” sites spreading Russian disinformation and propaganda is just scapegoating to divert attention from the far worse job they have done objectively reporting the truth, Ron Paul told RT yesterday. He added:
"The fake news comes from our own government, when they tell us about why we have to go to war. …And that was probably the big issue of the campaign, and that’s why Trump did so well. [Americans have] lost confidence in the government."
Simple question...will tell us everything about where you are coming from...Do you accept that during the election, WikiLeaks(Assange) was passing along stolen data that was hacked by Russians, designed to influence the election, and distributed to Assange with the go-ahead from former KGB operative Putin?
Personally, I don't think Russia was behind it. The US Government agrees. Actually, there is reason to believe that a US Intelligence Agency released the information as they saw the deep corruption and had to put an end to it. No proof of that theory, just like the Russian theory.
Clinton had her server hacked, probably by lots of people, not to mention State agencies, regardless of who did it, she got what she asked for. The law she broke was not only there so we can access that data via the FOIA, but also to protect her. Ironic.
But you sound like the DNC. Instead of addressing the corruption, Quid Pro Quo, #Pizzagate allegations, etc., you are more concerned about who released the true information rather than the corruption and all that it states went on. My priorities are with a non corrupt government, not who hacked their server to show corruption, State actor or not.
What planet on you on man??????The US government did say Russia hacked the election..Are you now saying they are lying???
U.S. Says Russia Directed Hacks to Influence Elections
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/pol...
holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Walt, here is some Fake News straight from the horses mouth and verified. CNN of course, regarding Cincinatti protest. Original articles below. CNN lied, pretty cold to be dressed like that and someone caught it and found the original pic.
December 2nd
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politi...
From November - Same picture.
http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/11/...http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/p...
The mainstream media and politicians peddling the line that there is a network of “fake news” sites spreading Russian disinformation and propaganda is just scapegoating to divert attention from the far worse job they have done objectively reporting the truth, Ron Paul told RT yesterday. He added:
"The fake news comes from our own government, when they tell us about why we have to go to war. …And that was probably the big issue of the campaign, and that’s why Trump did so well. [Americans have] lost confidence in the government."
Simple question...will tell us everything about where you are coming from...Do you accept that during the election, WikiLeaks(Assange) was passing along stolen data that was hacked by Russians, designed to influence the election, and distributed to Assange with the go-ahead from former KGB operative Putin?
Personally, I don't think Russia was behind it. The US Government agrees. Actually, there is reason to believe that a US Intelligence Agency released the information as they saw the deep corruption and had to put an end to it. No proof of that theory, just like the Russian theory.
Clinton had her server hacked, probably by lots of people, not to mention State agencies, regardless of who did it, she got what she asked for. The law she broke was not only there so we can access that data via the FOIA, but also to protect her. Ironic.
But you sound like the DNC. Instead of addressing the corruption, Quid Pro Quo, #Pizzagate allegations, etc., you are more concerned about who released the true information rather than the corruption and all that it states went on. My priorities are with a non corrupt government, not who hacked their server to show corruption, State actor or not.
What planet on you on man??????The US government did say Russia hacked the election..Are you now saying they are lying???
U.S. Says Russia Directed Hacks to Influence Elections
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/pol...
I'm on Earth, hence my handle. 
That article is from early October. I remember when Hillary made those comments about Russia with no proof (https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/03/cl...)and then there were reports that intelligence agencies didn't agree with her. Now, if that has changed, it really means little.
And for a variety of reasons. For starters
1 - You can't really prove it. The hack can be faked to look like it came from anywhere.
2 - It was hacked by many parties, John down the street could have just as easily done it. She chose to have an illegal private server that was relatively open.
You should really care more about the corruption, Quid Pro Quo and very likely pedophilia (#PizzaGate) that is in the emails.
ps - Marine Le Pen is a woman, not a "he"
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earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Walt, here is some Fake News straight from the horses mouth and verified. CNN of course, regarding Cincinatti protest. Original articles below. CNN lied, pretty cold to be dressed like that and someone caught it and found the original pic.
December 2nd
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politi...
From November - Same picture.
http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/11/...http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/p...
The mainstream media and politicians peddling the line that there is a network of “fake news” sites spreading Russian disinformation and propaganda is just scapegoating to divert attention from the far worse job they have done objectively reporting the truth, Ron Paul told RT yesterday. He added:
"The fake news comes from our own government, when they tell us about why we have to go to war. …And that was probably the big issue of the campaign, and that’s why Trump did so well. [Americans have] lost confidence in the government."
Simple question...will tell us everything about where you are coming from...Do you accept that during the election, WikiLeaks(Assange) was passing along stolen data that was hacked by Russians, designed to influence the election, and distributed to Assange with the go-ahead from former KGB operative Putin?
Personally, I don't think Russia was behind it. The US Government agrees. Actually, there is reason to believe that a US Intelligence Agency released the information as they saw the deep corruption and had to put an end to it. No proof of that theory, just like the Russian theory.
Clinton had her server hacked, probably by lots of people, not to mention State agencies, regardless of who did it, she got what she asked for. The law she broke was not only there so we can access that data via the FOIA, but also to protect her. Ironic.
But you sound like the DNC. Instead of addressing the corruption, Quid Pro Quo, #Pizzagate allegations, etc., you are more concerned about who released the true information rather than the corruption and all that it states went on. My priorities are with a non corrupt government, not who hacked their server to show corruption, State actor or not.
What planet on you on man??????The US government did say Russia hacked the election..Are you now saying they are lying???
U.S. Says Russia Directed Hacks to Influence Elections
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/pol...I'm on Earth, hence my handle.
That article is from early October. I remember when Hillary made those comments about Russia with no proof (https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/03/cl...)and then there were reports that intelligence agencies didn't agree with her. Now, if that has changed, it really means little.And for a variety of reasons. For starters
1 - You can't really prove it. The hack can be faked to look like it came from anywhere.
2 - It was hacked by many parties, John down the street could have just as easily done it. She chose to have an illegal private server that was relatively open.You should really care more about the corruption, Quid Pro Quo and very likely pedophilia (#PizzaGate) that is in the emails.
ps - Marine Le Pen is a woman, not a "he"
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You said the US government agrees with you, which is a Trumpian lie..
holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Walt, here is some Fake News straight from the horses mouth and verified. CNN of course, regarding Cincinatti protest. Original articles below. CNN lied, pretty cold to be dressed like that and someone caught it and found the original pic.
December 2nd
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politi...
From November - Same picture.
http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/11/...http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/p...
The mainstream media and politicians peddling the line that there is a network of “fake news” sites spreading Russian disinformation and propaganda is just scapegoating to divert attention from the far worse job they have done objectively reporting the truth, Ron Paul told RT yesterday. He added:
"The fake news comes from our own government, when they tell us about why we have to go to war. …And that was probably the big issue of the campaign, and that’s why Trump did so well. [Americans have] lost confidence in the government."
Simple question...will tell us everything about where you are coming from...Do you accept that during the election, WikiLeaks(Assange) was passing along stolen data that was hacked by Russians, designed to influence the election, and distributed to Assange with the go-ahead from former KGB operative Putin?
Personally, I don't think Russia was behind it. The US Government agrees. Actually, there is reason to believe that a US Intelligence Agency released the information as they saw the deep corruption and had to put an end to it. No proof of that theory, just like the Russian theory.
Clinton had her server hacked, probably by lots of people, not to mention State agencies, regardless of who did it, she got what she asked for. The law she broke was not only there so we can access that data via the FOIA, but also to protect her. Ironic.
But you sound like the DNC. Instead of addressing the corruption, Quid Pro Quo, #Pizzagate allegations, etc., you are more concerned about who released the true information rather than the corruption and all that it states went on. My priorities are with a non corrupt government, not who hacked their server to show corruption, State actor or not.
What planet on you on man??????The US government did say Russia hacked the election..Are you now saying they are lying???
U.S. Says Russia Directed Hacks to Influence Elections
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/pol...I'm on Earth, hence my handle.
That article is from early October. I remember when Hillary made those comments about Russia with no proof (https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/03/cl...)and then there were reports that intelligence agencies didn't agree with her. Now, if that has changed, it really means little.And for a variety of reasons. For starters
1 - You can't really prove it. The hack can be faked to look like it came from anywhere.
2 - It was hacked by many parties, John down the street could have just as easily done it. She chose to have an illegal private server that was relatively open.You should really care more about the corruption, Quid Pro Quo and very likely pedophilia (#PizzaGate) that is in the emails.
ps - Marine Le Pen is a woman, not a "he"
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You said the US government agrees with you, which is a Trumpian lie..
Last I heard, they did. (And that was at a later date than your article). No lie there. If you have evidence, present it. Otherwise it is a game of he said she said.
Look, Hillary lost, get over it. If by some miracle of the devil she gets back in, or someone else, I'll move on with my life and not spread hate here.
Maybe you can do the same (now)...
earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Walt, here is some Fake News straight from the horses mouth and verified. CNN of course, regarding Cincinatti protest. Original articles below. CNN lied, pretty cold to be dressed like that and someone caught it and found the original pic.
December 2nd
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politi...
From November - Same picture.
http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/11/...http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/p...
The mainstream media and politicians peddling the line that there is a network of “fake news” sites spreading Russian disinformation and propaganda is just scapegoating to divert attention from the far worse job they have done objectively reporting the truth, Ron Paul told RT yesterday. He added:
"The fake news comes from our own government, when they tell us about why we have to go to war. …And that was probably the big issue of the campaign, and that’s why Trump did so well. [Americans have] lost confidence in the government."
Simple question...will tell us everything about where you are coming from...Do you accept that during the election, WikiLeaks(Assange) was passing along stolen data that was hacked by Russians, designed to influence the election, and distributed to Assange with the go-ahead from former KGB operative Putin?
Personally, I don't think Russia was behind it. The US Government agrees. Actually, there is reason to believe that a US Intelligence Agency released the information as they saw the deep corruption and had to put an end to it. No proof of that theory, just like the Russian theory.
Clinton had her server hacked, probably by lots of people, not to mention State agencies, regardless of who did it, she got what she asked for. The law she broke was not only there so we can access that data via the FOIA, but also to protect her. Ironic.
But you sound like the DNC. Instead of addressing the corruption, Quid Pro Quo, #Pizzagate allegations, etc., you are more concerned about who released the true information rather than the corruption and all that it states went on. My priorities are with a non corrupt government, not who hacked their server to show corruption, State actor or not.
What planet on you on man??????The US government did say Russia hacked the election..Are you now saying they are lying???
U.S. Says Russia Directed Hacks to Influence Elections
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/pol...I'm on Earth, hence my handle.
That article is from early October. I remember when Hillary made those comments about Russia with no proof (https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/03/cl...)and then there were reports that intelligence agencies didn't agree with her. Now, if that has changed, it really means little.And for a variety of reasons. For starters
1 - You can't really prove it. The hack can be faked to look like it came from anywhere.
2 - It was hacked by many parties, John down the street could have just as easily done it. She chose to have an illegal private server that was relatively open.You should really care more about the corruption, Quid Pro Quo and very likely pedophilia (#PizzaGate) that is in the emails.
ps - Marine Le Pen is a woman, not a "he"
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You said the US government agrees with you, which is a Trumpian lie..Last I heard, they did. (And that was at a later date than your article). No lie there. If you have evidence, present it. Otherwise it is a game of he said she said.
Look, Hillary lost, get over it. If by some miracle of the devil she gets back in, or someone else, I'll move on with my life and not spread hate here.
Maybe you can do the same (now)...
That s exactky what Trump does...Prove me wrong...Show me a link to say the US government doesn't think Russia hacked the DNC..And like the debt data I posted, I don't expect to hear back..Have a nice life..
holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Walt, here is some Fake News straight from the horses mouth and verified. CNN of course, regarding Cincinatti protest. Original articles below. CNN lied, pretty cold to be dressed like that and someone caught it and found the original pic.
December 2nd
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politi...
From November - Same picture.
http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/11/...http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/p...
The mainstream media and politicians peddling the line that there is a network of “fake news” sites spreading Russian disinformation and propaganda is just scapegoating to divert attention from the far worse job they have done objectively reporting the truth, Ron Paul told RT yesterday. He added:
"The fake news comes from our own government, when they tell us about why we have to go to war. …And that was probably the big issue of the campaign, and that’s why Trump did so well. [Americans have] lost confidence in the government."
Simple question...will tell us everything about where you are coming from...Do you accept that during the election, WikiLeaks(Assange) was passing along stolen data that was hacked by Russians, designed to influence the election, and distributed to Assange with the go-ahead from former KGB operative Putin?
Personally, I don't think Russia was behind it. The US Government agrees. Actually, there is reason to believe that a US Intelligence Agency released the information as they saw the deep corruption and had to put an end to it. No proof of that theory, just like the Russian theory.
Clinton had her server hacked, probably by lots of people, not to mention State agencies, regardless of who did it, she got what she asked for. The law she broke was not only there so we can access that data via the FOIA, but also to protect her. Ironic.
But you sound like the DNC. Instead of addressing the corruption, Quid Pro Quo, #Pizzagate allegations, etc., you are more concerned about who released the true information rather than the corruption and all that it states went on. My priorities are with a non corrupt government, not who hacked their server to show corruption, State actor or not.
What planet on you on man??????The US government did say Russia hacked the election..Are you now saying they are lying???
U.S. Says Russia Directed Hacks to Influence Elections
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/pol...I'm on Earth, hence my handle.
That article is from early October. I remember when Hillary made those comments about Russia with no proof (https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/03/cl...)and then there were reports that intelligence agencies didn't agree with her. Now, if that has changed, it really means little.And for a variety of reasons. For starters
1 - You can't really prove it. The hack can be faked to look like it came from anywhere.
2 - It was hacked by many parties, John down the street could have just as easily done it. She chose to have an illegal private server that was relatively open.You should really care more about the corruption, Quid Pro Quo and very likely pedophilia (#PizzaGate) that is in the emails.
ps - Marine Le Pen is a woman, not a "he"
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You said the US government agrees with you, which is a Trumpian lie..Last I heard, they did. (And that was at a later date than your article). No lie there. If you have evidence, present it. Otherwise it is a game of he said she said.
Look, Hillary lost, get over it. If by some miracle of the devil she gets back in, or someone else, I'll move on with my life and not spread hate here.
Maybe you can do the same (now)...
That s exactky what Trump does...Prove me wrong...Show me a link to say the US government doesn't think Russia hacked the DNC..And like the debt data I posted, I don't expect to hear back..Have a nice life..
If you say Russia did it, then show me some evidence. But again, look at the data, you are more worried about who spilled the beans than the corruption the leaks show.
I've tried improving my information sources to acquiesce to the MSM crowd, and oddly enough, things have gotten much more quiet.
Sorry I missed some of your post but likewise, you never replied to my question regarding Hillary's faults, 3 times I might add. And you remain hostile, skip links, etc.
Peace out,
EMS