nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:fishmike wrote:eh Im waiting to be impressed. GS never once thought they were losing that game, and I wasnt sold on his contributions vs. the Suns while his mistakes were rough. Not saying he cant be good, but I gotta see a lot more before he gets into the strike gold zone
+100
He lost the suns game IMO.. Im not knocking him and I think he has potential, but I cant take the 2 things right, 2 things wrong type, especially if it results in a lost.
I think One of the reason that catapult Lin into stardom, was the fact that we were winning (WITHOUT MELO) and he was making avg players around him better.
I don't get your take on this one. Baker was a bit shaky in his 1st real significant minutes but you can see he has some ability and the right mental make up. What is this "2 things right, 2 things wrong" stuff? Is that how you view Baker after a couple of games? Seems a bit quick to know if he's a mistake prone player. Besides the Knicks have plenty of opportunity to win the Suns game.
Exactly ...he's a rookie that has to learn . But there is no denying he is a nba defender arguably the best backcourt defender on this team... on the plus he is not a bad offensive player either.. after evaluating this rookie class, baker is right up there esp on defense, he held curry to 4-13 shooting actually out playing curry on both ends of the floor . Not saying baker is on the same planet as curry ... but as a lockdown defender he can give opposing guards fits on a nightly basis . Yes I think Phil struck gold, baker looks like a first round talent .when was the last time the knicks found a first round talent as a UDFA ???
knicks1248 wrote:fishmike wrote:eh Im waiting to be impressed. GS never once thought they were losing that game, and I wasnt sold on his contributions vs. the Suns while his mistakes were rough. Not saying he cant be good, but I gotta see a lot more before he gets into the strike gold zone
+100
He lost the suns game IMO.. Im not knocking him and I think he has potential, but I cant take the 2 things right, 2 things wrong type, especially if it results in a lost.
I think One of the reason that catapult Lin into stardom, was the fact that we were winning (WITHOUT MELO) and he was making avg players around him better.
You look at progress with rookies...especially guys who have gotten no playing time and you play up the good and tone down the bad- in essence, you lower the bar. As he gets more playing time you raise the bar.
You actually got to see "progress" from Baker over a two game span, hope he can get some added playing time to see what he can contribute on a consistent basis.
It's funny, but Baker and Randle would probably compliment each other on the court very well. They did in the summer league too.
there was a post on here (months ago) that was originally about baker getting playing time. i laughed that off and said even though he might DESERVE playing time, i doubt he'll get it due to politics, agents, depth chart etc
let me be the first to apologize to mr baker and give coach hornecek credit. i never questioned his ability. i questioned the knicks "merit" system. rose has gone down baker has done a decent job given the mins he has played