I get so effing tired of a call being made anytime we breathe on an opposing player going to the hoop yet we consistently get hammered in the same situation and no whistle.
Dad Melo to start the 3rd. Picking the Bucks apart with passing then scoring. We're back in the game.
Cartman718 wrote:magicTs wrote:Cartman718 wrote:magicTs wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:magicTs wrote:Knicksfan wrote:Ok, I'm sold:Keep losing and get a high draft pick.
Its the same tune of the past decades, but this team really looks like they hit their high point a month ago and have already packed it in. Melo is a huge disappointment and I think I'm ready ti turn to the dark side on him.
I've reached that point as well. Have tried to keep the faith but it's just not happening and sad to say it never will. Melo's done in terms of being a leader and franchise player, we need to aatempt to get what we can from the Clippers (or whoever) whilst we still can. We need to rebuild around KP with no Melo getting in the way.
A question for such informed fans that have been watching this game closely. What is Melo's +/-? KP's? How many turnovers did we have to start 2nd Quarter with Melo on the bench? I'll wait...
It's way more than that though isn't it. It's the whole culture of the club. Its the loser mentality and the fact we don't now even look a play off contender in a weak East. It's time to cut our losses and rebuild properly. We need rid of Melo to do that. That's the brutal reality.
How do you propose that happens with the No Trade Clause.
NoT my job man. Dolan pays someone a MILLION DOLLARS A MONTH to get shit done. The KP draft pick aside he's doing a pretty brutal job of it so far.
no one can trade him unless he waives the NTC...how do you not get that
Errrr, I do get that. It's Jackson's job to coerce him or do whatever is required to get him to do that.
Melo off to a great start in the second half again. Hopefully this continues.
WP76 wrote:I get so effing tired of a call being made anytime we breathe on an opposing player going to the hoop yet we consistently get hammered in the same situation and no whistle.
so far the 3rd has gone our way no thanks to the refs...we're making shots so far
playing with a little patience and poise now..The d is still under the screen..smh
Knicks playing SMARTER!!!
The fucking bucks suck! The Knicks should be up by 10 easily just like the other night. Between the refs and our turnovers/defense... I'm so mad. This team had the talent not to be going through this.
magicTs wrote:Cartman718 wrote:magicTs wrote:Cartman718 wrote:magicTs wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:magicTs wrote:Knicksfan wrote:Ok, I'm sold:Keep losing and get a high draft pick.
Its the same tune of the past decades, but this team really looks like they hit their high point a month ago and have already packed it in. Melo is a huge disappointment and I think I'm ready ti turn to the dark side on him.
I've reached that point as well. Have tried to keep the faith but it's just not happening and sad to say it never will. Melo's done in terms of being a leader and franchise player, we need to aatempt to get what we can from the Clippers (or whoever) whilst we still can. We need to rebuild around KP with no Melo getting in the way.
A question for such informed fans that have been watching this game closely. What is Melo's +/-? KP's? How many turnovers did we have to start 2nd Quarter with Melo on the bench? I'll wait...
It's way more than that though isn't it. It's the whole culture of the club. Its the loser mentality and the fact we don't now even look a play off contender in a weak East. It's time to cut our losses and rebuild properly. We need rid of Melo to do that. That's the brutal reality.
How do you propose that happens with the No Trade Clause.
NoT my job man. Dolan pays someone a MILLION DOLLARS A MONTH to get shit done. The KP draft pick aside he's doing a pretty brutal job of it so far.
no one can trade him unless he waives the NTC...how do you not get that
Errrr, I do get that. It's Jackson's job to coerce him or do whatever is required to get him to do that.
He just got them back into this game by himself. They don't win when he doesn't play and he has a no trade clause. Realistic solutions to help the team are great. That one is not realistic and might not help.
The problem in tonites game and the night before was when we put the bench in and the Bucks went on huge runs...We have the momentum now, hopefully when the bench players come in early 4th, they dont let the Bucks go on a huge run....
Melo is still looking around a little bit instead of defending the 3
Lee's defense has been very questionable.
we cut it to 1 and then terrible defense by Melo not closing out on Parker.
Here's how the Bucks ran began this quarter...Melo fails to defend the 3...forces up a shot to answer back...they get a transition hoop...and now they're feeling it
magicTs wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:magicTs wrote:Knicksfan wrote:Ok, I'm sold:Keep losing and get a high draft pick.
Its the same tune of the past decades, but this team really looks like they hit their high point a month ago and have already packed it in. Melo is a huge disappointment and I think I'm ready ti turn to the dark side on him.
I've reached that point as well. Have tried to keep the faith but it's just not happening and sad to say it never will. Melo's done in terms of being a leader and franchise player, we need to aatempt to get what we can from the Clippers (or whoever) whilst we still can. We need to rebuild around KP with no Melo getting in the way.
A question for such informed fans that have been watching this game closely. What is Melo's +/-? KP's? How many turnovers did we have to start 2nd Quarter with Melo on the bench? I'll wait...
It's way more than that though isn't it. It's the whole culture of the club. Its the loser mentality and the fact we don't now even look a play off contender in a weak East. It's time to cut our losses and rebuild properly. We need rid of Melo to do that. That's the brutal reality.
It's actually not more than that"That" being facts and not personal perception. And rebuilding is what. Just look at Knicks 1st round picks since 1986. Anyone stand out to you besides KP? And no Knick fan wanted KP.
rose avoiding the contact thats why henson smack his sht, had he just made contact, he would been at the line instead of the fast break the opposite way
magicTs wrote:Cartman718 wrote:magicTs wrote:Cartman718 wrote:magicTs wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:magicTs wrote:Knicksfan wrote:Ok, I'm sold:Keep losing and get a high draft pick.
Its the same tune of the past decades, but this team really looks like they hit their high point a month ago and have already packed it in. Melo is a huge disappointment and I think I'm ready ti turn to the dark side on him.
I've reached that point as well. Have tried to keep the faith but it's just not happening and sad to say it never will. Melo's done in terms of being a leader and franchise player, we need to aatempt to get what we can from the Clippers (or whoever) whilst we still can. We need to rebuild around KP with no Melo getting in the way.
A question for such informed fans that have been watching this game closely. What is Melo's +/-? KP's? How many turnovers did we have to start 2nd Quarter with Melo on the bench? I'll wait...
It's way more than that though isn't it. It's the whole culture of the club. Its the loser mentality and the fact we don't now even look a play off contender in a weak East. It's time to cut our losses and rebuild properly. We need rid of Melo to do that. That's the brutal reality.
How do you propose that happens with the No Trade Clause.
NoT my job man. Dolan pays someone a MILLION DOLLARS A MONTH to get shit done. The KP draft pick aside he's doing a pretty brutal job of it so far.
no one can trade him unless he waives the NTC...how do you not get that
Errrr, I do get that. It's Jackson's job to coerce him or do whatever is required to get him to do that.
Good luck to Phil with that.
CrushAlot wrote:magicTs wrote:Cartman718 wrote:magicTs wrote:Cartman718 wrote:magicTs wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:magicTs wrote:Knicksfan wrote:Ok, I'm sold:Keep losing and get a high draft pick.
Its the same tune of the past decades, but this team really looks like they hit their high point a month ago and have already packed it in. Melo is a huge disappointment and I think I'm ready ti turn to the dark side on him.
I've reached that point as well. Have tried to keep the faith but it's just not happening and sad to say it never will. Melo's done in terms of being a leader and franchise player, we need to aatempt to get what we can from the Clippers (or whoever) whilst we still can. We need to rebuild around KP with no Melo getting in the way.
A question for such informed fans that have been watching this game closely. What is Melo's +/-? KP's? How many turnovers did we have to start 2nd Quarter with Melo on the bench? I'll wait...
It's way more than that though isn't it. It's the whole culture of the club. Its the loser mentality and the fact we don't now even look a play off contender in a weak East. It's time to cut our losses and rebuild properly. We need rid of Melo to do that. That's the brutal reality.
How do you propose that happens with the No Trade Clause.
NoT my job man. Dolan pays someone a MILLION DOLLARS A MONTH to get shit done. The KP draft pick aside he's doing a pretty brutal job of it so far.
no one can trade him unless he waives the NTC...how do you not get that
Errrr, I do get that. It's Jackson's job to coerce him or do whatever is required to get him to do that.
He just got them back into this game by himself. They don't win when he doesn't play and he has a no trade clause. Realistic solutions to help the team are great. That one is not realistic and might not help.
Not winning and building through the draft is our only way to rebuild properly. If you honestly think this Knicks team will ever challenge with Melo at the helm your delusional. Melo will always have runs of good play and scoring as he did for a few minutes there. Then his poor defense kicked in and he got flamed 3 shots running. It is what it is and I get the loyalty to Melo but the reality is his best days are way behind him and we'd be better trying to work an exit that benefited both parties.
