BRIGGS wrote:Now have seen both 3 times--would take Fultz over Ball for pic m#1 no brainer to me. Both will be great but Fultz to me is one level ahead physically .
i agree dude!
smackeddog@ 1/27/2017 3:44 AM
callmened wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Now have seen both 3 times--would take Fultz over Ball for pic m#1 no brainer to me. Both will be great but Fultz to me is one level ahead physically .
i agree dude!
Looking at the standings, I think we can climb all the way up to 4th- beyond that gets tough, the last couple of wins really hurt us:
Mavs and Heat are at 4th and 5th with a record of 16-30, we're on 20-27. We definitely can't tie with the Nets, whoa re at number 1 with a pitiful 9-36 record (and no pick!), also very unlikely we end up with a worse record than the Lakers (they are highly motivated to tank, because if they don't get a top 3 pick they have to give it up AND then have to give up their 2019 pick too. Doubt we match the Suns either.
I love this guy. Hes going to be something in between Marcus Camby and Tim Duncan--already has incredible footwork at 19 years old yet he has exceptional athletic ability and speed--two end player
callmened@ 1/27/2017 12:46 PM
i agree again briggs. excellent prospect
smackeddog@ 1/27/2017 2:08 PM
BRIGGS wrote:I love this guy. Hes going to be something in between Marcus Camby and Tim Duncan--already has incredible footwork at 19 years old yet he has exceptional athletic ability and speed--two end player
Maybe if the Melo deal goes through, we move Redick for a first rounder- what number do you see him going?
reub@ 1/28/2017 11:37 AM
smackeddog wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I love this guy. Hes going to be something in between Marcus Camby and Tim Duncan--already has incredible footwork at 19 years old yet he has exceptional athletic ability and speed--two end player
Maybe if the Melo deal goes through, we move Redick for a first rounder- what number do you see him going?
Tankathon has him going at #13.
TPercy@ 1/28/2017 12:58 PM
Unless we somehow move Noah, we have no room for patton
TPercy@ 1/28/2017 1:11 PM
Kentucky vs Kansas is on today at 6:15 on ESPN
smackeddog@ 1/28/2017 1:12 PM
My dreams of a high pick lessen with every win!
callmened@ 1/28/2017 4:27 PM
TPercy wrote:Unless we somehow move Noah, we have no room for patton
lol. yep
BRIGGS@ 1/28/2017 7:26 PM
I am going to be a realist and use common sense. I said Luke Kennard reminded me of Chris Mullin 2 months ago. The guy isn't sexy but he's a great 2 guard who can play the style of basketball the nba plays now. I know the Knicks will be in between 12-17 and the three names I like are Bridges Kennard and Payton. In fact if we do trade melo and only end up with another mid range we can work with it this year
callmened@ 1/28/2017 7:31 PM
TPercy wrote:Kentucky vs Kansas is on today at 6:15 on ESPN
keep your eye on deaaron fox (if he plays). most likely the knicks will fall into a pick around 12-16th range. he might be available. super athletic left pass first PG who CANT shoot. hies basically a younger b.jennings with upside
callmened@ 1/28/2017 7:32 PM
BRIGGS wrote:I am going to be a realist and use common sense. I said Luke Kennard reminded me of Chris Mullin 2 months ago. The guy isn't sexy but he's a great 2 guard who can play the style of basketball the nba plays now. I know the Knicks will be in between 12-17 and the three names I like are Bridges Kennard and Payton. In fact if we do trade melo and only end up with another mid range we can work with it this year
yeah i think kennard could be a decent pro. end of 1st rd 20s pick
TPercy@ 1/28/2017 7:51 PM
callmened wrote:
TPercy wrote:Kentucky vs Kansas is on today at 6:15 on ESPN
keep your eye on deaaron fox (if he plays). most likely the knicks will fall into a pick around 12-16th range. he might be available. super athletic left pass first PG who CANT shoot. hies basically a younger b.jennings with upside
I highly doubt Fox falls to us but he is a great prospect for sure.
NardDogNation@ 1/28/2017 8:19 PM
callmened wrote:
TPercy wrote:Kentucky vs Kansas is on today at 6:15 on ESPN
keep your eye on deaaron fox (if he plays). most likely the knicks will fall into a pick around 12-16th range. he might be available. super athletic left pass first PG who CANT shoot. hies basically a younger b.jennings with upside
I was a big fan of Fox to start the season but I'm not sure he is big enough to play meaningfully in the pros. The skill is there but there is a physicality to the game that just can't easily be discounted and has spelled doom for very skilled/talented yet diminutive players e.g. Shane Larkin, Andre Barrett, Pierre Jackson, Jonny Flynn, etc. I think Malik Monk has the same issues and will inevitably slide in the draft.
As a side, Josh Jackson is the real deal and I do hope we walk away with either he or one of the Tier 1 PG prospects. He needs to fix the mechanics on that jumper of his though.
TPercy@ 1/28/2017 9:18 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
callmened wrote:
TPercy wrote:Kentucky vs Kansas is on today at 6:15 on ESPN
keep your eye on deaaron fox (if he plays). most likely the knicks will fall into a pick around 12-16th range. he might be available. super athletic left pass first PG who CANT shoot. hies basically a younger b.jennings with upside
I was a big fan of Fox to start the season but I'm not sure he is big enough to play meaningfully in the pros. The skill is there but there is a physicality to the game that just can't easily be discounted and has spelled doom for very skilled/talented yet diminutive players e.g. Shane Larkin, Andre Barrett, Pierre Jackson, Jonny Flynn, etc. I think Malik Monk has the same issues and will inevitably slide in the draft.
As a side, Josh Jackson is the real deal and I do hope we walk away with either he or one of the Tier 1 PG prospects. He needs to fix the mechanics on that jumper of his though.
He is 6'4. He just needs to hit the weight room more and put on a few. His 3pt shooting is the biggest concern imo
NardDogNation@ 1/28/2017 10:05 PM
TPercy wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
callmened wrote:
TPercy wrote:Kentucky vs Kansas is on today at 6:15 on ESPN
keep your eye on deaaron fox (if he plays). most likely the knicks will fall into a pick around 12-16th range. he might be available. super athletic left pass first PG who CANT shoot. hies basically a younger b.jennings with upside
I was a big fan of Fox to start the season but I'm not sure he is big enough to play meaningfully in the pros. The skill is there but there is a physicality to the game that just can't easily be discounted and has spelled doom for very skilled/talented yet diminutive players e.g. Shane Larkin, Andre Barrett, Pierre Jackson, Jonny Flynn, etc. I think Malik Monk has the same issues and will inevitably slide in the draft.
As a side, Josh Jackson is the real deal and I do hope we walk away with either he or one of the Tier 1 PG prospects. He needs to fix the mechanics on that jumper of his though.
He is 6'4. He just needs to hit the weight room more and put on a few. His 3pt shooting is the biggest concern imo
And that's what I thought heading into today's contest. Then I saw him in proximity of other opposing guards and felt he was no bigger than 6"2' Devonte Graham and not much taller than 5"11' Frank Mason III. I wonder if Fox is suffering from a bad case of Elton Brand and has had his heigh overexaggerated.
smackeddog@ 1/29/2017 3:45 AM
TPercy wrote:
callmened wrote:
TPercy wrote:Kentucky vs Kansas is on today at 6:15 on ESPN
keep your eye on deaaron fox (if he plays). most likely the knicks will fall into a pick around 12-16th range. he might be available. super athletic left pass first PG who CANT shoot. hies basically a younger b.jennings with upside
I highly doubt Fox falls to us but he is a great prospect for sure.
Have you looked at the standings?:
We're on 21-27 for the 11th pick. The 5th pick is held by the Magic who are 18-30, we're only 3 wins ahead of them and still have just under half a season to go. Miami are also on 18-30 and seem to be on a bit of a winning roll at the moment. We can easily make 5th if we want to, I think even if we didn't have a fire sale. Factor in if we do move Melo and Rose and any vet with value and we could climb higher.
However I think it will be extremely difficult to catch any of the top 4- Nets we have no chance of matching (9-38), and the other 3 are very unlikely- Suns (15-32), Lakers (16-34) and Mavs (16-30).
So we have a good shot at finishing at no.5, and who knows, maybe we get lucky in the lottery and climb a few spots.
smackeddog@ 1/31/2017 3:33 AM
A very good night for draft positioning- Heat, Sixers and Mavs won. Now we're (21-28) just 3 wins ahead of the Mavs (18-30) who hold the 4th spot. Sixers seem to be winning a lot and so bizarrely have the Heat, who I thought were finished- Dion Waiters of all people won player of the week and is playing out of his mind- they've won 8 in a row! We're only 2 wins ahead of them.
BRIGGS@ 2/1/2017 1:05 PM
Top 5
1 Faultz(by a good margin) 2 Monk 3 Ball 4 Smith 5 Patton
crzymdups@ 2/1/2017 1:51 PM
callmened wrote:
TPercy wrote:Kentucky vs Kansas is on today at 6:15 on ESPN
keep your eye on deaaron fox (if he plays). most likely the knicks will fall into a pick around 12-16th range. he might be available. super athletic left pass first PG who CANT shoot. hies basically a younger b.jennings with upside
I like De'Aaron Fox a lot. He's bigger than Jennings, and I think a better playmaker. His shot is a problem though.
I think our pick will likely be in the 6-10 range, but if we really tank we can get to the 4/5/6 range.
