Knicks · 2017 NBA Draft Thread (page 8)

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Pick 1-2-3 are easy IMHO

Fultz
Ball
Smith

I dont think there is much in the way of argument. It might not come off the board like that--but thats my personal feelings if we get the top 3.

Right now i go

1. Ball
2. Fultz
3. Smith
4. Fox
5. Monk
6. Jackson
7. Isaac
8. Ntikina
9. Tatum
10. Bridges

3 point shooting from the guard position is a high level prerequisite but I like Fox enough to take him 4 or 5.

I completely agree. I think shooting is essential. I do think, however, that because of the focus on his poor shooting, he has become somewhat underrated. He is the fastest player in college basketball, probably the best ball handler, and probably has the best defensive potential of all of the PG prospects. On top of that, i don't think his shot is completely broken, and i expect him to become a passable 3pt shooter in his career. I think he has some serious potential that is overlooked. His freshman year numbers are very similar to what John Wall's were, and he has similar speed with the ball. He's also a great finisher around the basket. Sometimes we focus so much on one weakness, that we forget what a good basketball player looks like. But we agree he is probably top-5 for the knicks, and i think he likely falls outside of the top 5 overall, which is a good thing.

smackeddog wrote:I know we need a PG, but is Josh Jackson good enough to consider taking?

i dont think so...josh jackson is m.kidd gilchrist at best - corey brewer at worst. amazing athlete who plays electrifying defense and can pass. problem is he really really cant shoot

BRIGGS wrote:The only SF I would take within 10 is Tatum. I like the way he handles the ball. He reminds me a lot of Paul Pierce.

i concur. to be honest he reminds me a lot of melo. entered the NBA with mid range game but with time that could be expanded

	
                        W	L	PCT	GB	HOME	ROAD	DIV	CONF	PPG	OPP PPG	DIFF	STRK	L10
Brooklyn Nets	        9	45	.167	36.5	7-22	2-23	0-10	3-32	105.1	114.0	-8.8	L12	0-10
Phoenix Suns	        16	37	.302	29	8-17	8-20	2-8	6-30	106.3	112.6	-6.3	L3	2-8
Los Angeles Lakers	19	37	.339	27.5	12-13	7-24	4-5	9-23	104.7	110.5	-5.8	W1	4-6
Philadelphia 76ers	19	34	.358	26	12-16	7-18	4-4	12-18	100.7	106.7	-6.0	W1	3-7
Orlando Magic	        20	35	.364	26	9-17	11-18	4-6	12-20	99.9	105.9	-6.0	L3	2-8
Minnesota Timberwolves	20	34	.370	25.5	13-17	7-17	2-7	10-21	104.4	105.9	-1.6	L1	4-6
New Orleans Pelicans	21	33	.389	24.5	14-15	7-18	2-6	9-20	103.5	106.8	-3.3	W1	4-6
Sacramento Kings	21	32	.396	24	10-15	11-17	3-5	12-17	103.3	105.9	-2.6	W1	5-5
Dallas Mavericks	21	32	.396	24	13-13	8-19	2-8	13-22	98.0	100.6	-2.6	W1	7-3
New York Knicks	        22	33	.400	24	13-15	9-18	3-5	14-19	106.3	109.4	-3.1	L4	3-7
Milwaukee Bucks	        22	30	.423	22.5	13-14	9-16	6-3	14-21	105.1	105.4	-0.3	L2	2-8

nixluva wrote:YES! The Kings beat the Hawks and that's great for our draft position. I didn't think they would pull it off but they did. So the Lakers, Sixers, Pels, Mavs and Kings won their last game. Knicks are falling right into position with a few more losses.

	
                        W	L	PCT	GB	HOME	ROAD	DIV	CONF	PPG	OPP PPG	DIFF	STRK	L10
Brooklyn Nets	        9	45	.167	36.5	7-22	2-23	0-10	3-32	105.1	114.0	-8.8	L12	0-10
Phoenix Suns	        16	37	.302	29	8-17	8-20	2-8	6-30	106.3	112.6	-6.3	L3	2-8
Los Angeles Lakers	19	37	.339	27.5	12-13	7-24	4-5	9-23	104.7	110.5	-5.8	W1	4-6
Philadelphia 76ers	19	34	.358	26	12-16	7-18	4-4	12-18	100.7	106.7	-6.0	W1	3-7
Orlando Magic	        20	35	.364	26	9-17	11-18	4-6	12-20	99.9	105.9	-6.0	L3	2-8
Minnesota Timberwolves	20	34	.370	25.5	13-17	7-17	2-7	10-21	104.4	105.9	-1.6	L1	4-6
New Orleans Pelicans	21	33	.389	24.5	14-15	7-18	2-6	9-20	103.5	106.8	-3.3	W1	4-6
Sacramento Kings	21	32	.396	24	10-15	11-17	3-5	12-17	103.3	105.9	-2.6	W1	5-5
Dallas Mavericks	21	32	.396	24	13-13	8-19	2-8	13-22	98.0	100.6	-2.6	W1	7-3
New York Knicks	        22	33	.400	24	13-15	9-18	3-5	14-19	106.3	109.4	-3.1	L4	3-7
Milwaukee Bucks	        22	30	.423	22.5	13-14	9-16	6-3	14-21	105.1	105.4	-0.3	L2	2-8

Tankathon showing us at 9:

http://www.tankathon.com

smackeddog wrote:

nixluva wrote:YES! The Kings beat the Hawks and that's great for our draft position. I didn't think they would pull it off but they did. So the Lakers, Sixers, Pels, Mavs and Kings won their last game. Knicks are falling right into position with a few more losses.

	
                        W	L	PCT	GB	HOME	ROAD	DIV	CONF	PPG	OPP PPG	DIFF	STRK	L10
Brooklyn Nets	        9	45	.167	36.5	7-22	2-23	0-10	3-32	105.1	114.0	-8.8	L12	0-10
Phoenix Suns	        16	37	.302	29	8-17	8-20	2-8	6-30	106.3	112.6	-6.3	L3	2-8
Los Angeles Lakers	19	37	.339	27.5	12-13	7-24	4-5	9-23	104.7	110.5	-5.8	W1	4-6
Philadelphia 76ers	19	34	.358	26	12-16	7-18	4-4	12-18	100.7	106.7	-6.0	W1	3-7
Orlando Magic	        20	35	.364	26	9-17	11-18	4-6	12-20	99.9	105.9	-6.0	L3	2-8
Minnesota Timberwolves	20	34	.370	25.5	13-17	7-17	2-7	10-21	104.4	105.9	-1.6	L1	4-6
New Orleans Pelicans	21	33	.389	24.5	14-15	7-18	2-6	9-20	103.5	106.8	-3.3	W1	4-6
Sacramento Kings	21	32	.396	24	10-15	11-17	3-5	12-17	103.3	105.9	-2.6	W1	5-5
Dallas Mavericks	21	32	.396	24	13-13	8-19	2-8	13-22	98.0	100.6	-2.6	W1	7-3
New York Knicks	        22	33	.400	24	13-15	9-18	3-5	14-19	106.3	109.4	-3.1	L4	3-7
Milwaukee Bucks	        22	30	.423	22.5	13-14	9-16	6-3	14-21	105.1	105.4	-0.3	L2	2-8

Tankathon showing us at 9:

http://www.tankathon.com

Yeah I may have been a bit too quick with the updated standings. I know it's painful to some fans but given the rarity of this team even having 1st rd picks and the strength of this draft, I think it's the only way to go for this team.

nixluva wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

nixluva wrote:YES! The Kings beat the Hawks and that's great for our draft position. I didn't think they would pull it off but they did. So the Lakers, Sixers, Pels, Mavs and Kings won their last game. Knicks are falling right into position with a few more losses.

	
                        W	L	PCT	GB	HOME	ROAD	DIV	CONF	PPG	OPP PPG	DIFF	STRK	L10
Brooklyn Nets	        9	45	.167	36.5	7-22	2-23	0-10	3-32	105.1	114.0	-8.8	L12	0-10
Phoenix Suns	        16	37	.302	29	8-17	8-20	2-8	6-30	106.3	112.6	-6.3	L3	2-8
Los Angeles Lakers	19	37	.339	27.5	12-13	7-24	4-5	9-23	104.7	110.5	-5.8	W1	4-6
Philadelphia 76ers	19	34	.358	26	12-16	7-18	4-4	12-18	100.7	106.7	-6.0	W1	3-7
Orlando Magic	        20	35	.364	26	9-17	11-18	4-6	12-20	99.9	105.9	-6.0	L3	2-8
Minnesota Timberwolves	20	34	.370	25.5	13-17	7-17	2-7	10-21	104.4	105.9	-1.6	L1	4-6
New Orleans Pelicans	21	33	.389	24.5	14-15	7-18	2-6	9-20	103.5	106.8	-3.3	W1	4-6
Sacramento Kings	21	32	.396	24	10-15	11-17	3-5	12-17	103.3	105.9	-2.6	W1	5-5
Dallas Mavericks	21	32	.396	24	13-13	8-19	2-8	13-22	98.0	100.6	-2.6	W1	7-3
New York Knicks	        22	33	.400	24	13-15	9-18	3-5	14-19	106.3	109.4	-3.1	L4	3-7
Milwaukee Bucks	        22	30	.423	22.5	13-14	9-16	6-3	14-21	105.1	105.4	-0.3	L2	2-8

Tankathon showing us at 9:

http://www.tankathon.com

Yeah I may have been a bit too quick with the updated standings. I know it's painful to some fans but given the rarity of this team even having 1st rd picks and the strength of this draft, I think it's the only way to go for this team.

Once I've accepted we're losing I do actually enjoy thinking ahead to the draft- I enjoyed the KP draft and the run up to it. Not having a pick was the worst during all those other losing seasons. At least with a pick you have something to look forward to and invest in.

Also good to hear the intro music again on these vids!:

BRIGGS wrote:Watching kentucky. Fox game jumper is really bad

Yeah but I still like his overall talent. Usually fast Athletic kids tend to rely on that and not focus on their shooting enough.

I really dig Monk, but he can be too one dimensional at times, kind of like THJR. It would be great to get him though. If we can offload Melo, then I think Jayson Tatum ought to be a priority unless we somehow land Fultz, Smith, or Ball. He looks like a cross between Melo and Tobias Harris with more willingness to pass.

Briscoe would be a great second round pick up.

BRIGGS wrote:Watching kentucky. Fox game jumper is really bad

yep. its bad. but inh igh school he would have these breakout games where he'd score 10 threes. i would hope for at least a "Streaky" player but so far at kentucky he has NOT shot it well