Knicks · GameThread: Will Randle get some burn again the Knicks, @76ers (page 8)

SocraticBallin22 @ 1/11/2017 9:01 PM
No one likes to guard Ilyasova; may be b/c he's ugly or something.
nixluva @ 1/11/2017 9:01 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
nixluva wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
nixluva wrote:ISO MELO is not an offense. Sure he's scoring right now but they have to come up with an offense that works for everyone and not just Melo and Rose.

Like who? So you dont want your scorers scoring? Its about our defense.

You can't convince me that Melo is the ONLY one who can score! Whenever we run PnR other guys get involved.

PnR is good. With who though? KP breaks to 3pt line every time. Noah cuts but cant hit a lay up. Maybe KO. He can pop or finish.
But in this game you have to feed the hot hand. Specially if its the 26 highest scorer of all time!! And good teams get there good players rolling.

Look the one thing I'm well versed in is offensive basketball and if I'm complaining it's not about just what happens in this game against SCRUBS!!! I know what I'm talking about. I'm not anti Melo. I'm pointing out that this offense has to work for everyone and from what I see it's not benefiting the talents of everyone and especially not KP!!!

Gudris @ 1/11/2017 9:03 PM
No plays for KP ? he didnt took single shot attempt 4th quarter
ScoreBot @ 1/11/2017 9:04 PM
4Q - 6:16
PHI 75 NYK 84
nixluva @ 1/11/2017 9:04 PM
Gudris wrote:No plays for KP ? he didnt took single shot attempt 4th quarter

This is part of what I've been complaining about!!!
nyknickzingis @ 1/11/2017 9:04 PM
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Knicks with some suffocating D! Let's hear it for them, fellas!

The starters just relied on Melo n Rose one on one advantage to score. Difference is they played hard. 2nd unit shares the ball better and has more speed defensively.

Too bad we haven't had this defensive intensity and energy in general. We had against the Bucks. Then took 2 games off.

nixluva @ 1/11/2017 9:07 PM
Good ball movement on that drive n kick by Rose leading to the BJ 3!
ScoreBot @ 1/11/2017 9:08 PM
4Q - 4:25
PHI 81 NYK 89
HofstraBBall @ 1/11/2017 9:09 PM
nixluva wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
nixluva wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
nixluva wrote:ISO MELO is not an offense. Sure he's scoring right now but they have to come up with an offense that works for everyone and not just Melo and Rose.

Like who? So you dont want your scorers scoring? Its about our defense.

You can't convince me that Melo is the ONLY one who can score! Whenever we run PnR other guys get involved.

PnR is good. With who though? KP breaks to 3pt line every time. Noah cuts but cant hit a lay up. Maybe KO. He can pop or finish.
But in this game you have to feed the hot hand. Specially if its the 26 highest scorer of all time!! And good teams get there good players rolling.

Look the one thing I'm well versed in is offensive basketball and if I'm complaining it's not about just what happens in this game against SCRUBS!!! I know what I'm talking about. I'm not anti Melo. I'm pointing out that this offense has to work for everyone and from what I see it's not benefiting the talents of everyone and especially not KP!!!

We have lost to plenty of scrub teams. What would you like to see? We both know the Triangle is there. We both know Melo is a post up player. And we both know we got Rose to penetrate and get easy baskets. More PnR with KP? Okay. Thats good. But my point is I dont care about offense, as it has not been the reason we have been losing. Regardless of the scrubs, want to see defensive effort.

knicks1248 @ 1/11/2017 9:11 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
nixluva wrote:ISO MELO is not an offense. Sure he's scoring right now but they have to come up with an offense that works for everyone and not just Melo and Rose.

Like who? So you dont want your scorers scoring? Its about our defense.


look at how much better our defense and ball movement is with melo off the court

dude are you suggesting that were better without melo?

SocraticBallin22 @ 1/11/2017 9:11 PM
Horny closing with KOQ over Noah is a good sign. I noticed in the 1st, he subbed Noah in early in the 2nd to close with KOQ, and he's doing that again at the end of the game. Also, BJ and Rose out there closing the game.
ScoreBot @ 1/11/2017 9:12 PM
4Q - 2:52
PHI 83 NYK 91
Cartman718 @ 1/11/2017 9:12 PM
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Horny closing with KOQ over Noah is a good sign. I noticed in the 1st, he subbed Noah in early in the 2nd to close with KOQ, and he's doing that again at the end of the game. Also, BJ and Rose out there closing the game.

why didn't KP come back though...still minutes restriction?

knicks1248 @ 1/11/2017 9:13 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
nixluva wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
nixluva wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
nixluva wrote:ISO MELO is not an offense. Sure he's scoring right now but they have to come up with an offense that works for everyone and not just Melo and Rose.

Like who? So you dont want your scorers scoring? Its about our defense.

You can't convince me that Melo is the ONLY one who can score! Whenever we run PnR other guys get involved.

PnR is good. With who though? KP breaks to 3pt line every time. Noah cuts but cant hit a lay up. Maybe KO. He can pop or finish.
But in this game you have to feed the hot hand. Specially if its the 26 highest scorer of all time!! And good teams get there good players rolling.

Look the one thing I'm well versed in is offensive basketball and if I'm complaining it's not about just what happens in this game against SCRUBS!!! I know what I'm talking about. I'm not anti Melo. I'm pointing out that this offense has to work for everyone and from what I see it's not benefiting the talents of everyone and especially not KP!!!

We have lost to plenty of scrub teams. What would you like to see? We both know the Triangle is there. We both know Melo is a post up player. And we both know we got Rose to penetrate and get easy baskets. More PnR with KP? Okay. Thats good. But my point is I dont care about offense, as it has not been the reason we have been losing. Regardless of the scrubs, want to see defensive effort.

start with the philosophy

fitzfarm @ 1/11/2017 9:13 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
nixluva wrote:ISO MELO is not an offense. Sure he's scoring right now but they have to come up with an offense that works for everyone and not just Melo and Rose.

Like who? So you dont want your scorers scoring? Its about our defense.


look at how much better our defense and ball movement is with melo off the court

dude are you suggesting that were better without melo?


no but our ball movement, and defense with melo on the bench has been better
fitzfarm @ 1/11/2017 9:14 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
nixluva wrote:ISO MELO is not an offense. Sure he's scoring right now but they have to come up with an offense that works for everyone and not just Melo and Rose.

Like who? So you dont want your scorers scoring? Its about our defense.


look at how much better our defense and ball movement is with melo off the court

dude are you suggesting that were better without melo?


no but our ball movement, and defense with melo on the bench has been better

esp in the beginning of the 4th, wish we could move the ball like that more with melo on the floor
nixluva @ 1/11/2017 9:14 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
nixluva wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
nixluva wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
nixluva wrote:ISO MELO is not an offense. Sure he's scoring right now but they have to come up with an offense that works for everyone and not just Melo and Rose.

Like who? So you dont want your scorers scoring? Its about our defense.

You can't convince me that Melo is the ONLY one who can score! Whenever we run PnR other guys get involved.

PnR is good. With who though? KP breaks to 3pt line every time. Noah cuts but cant hit a lay up. Maybe KO. He can pop or finish.
But in this game you have to feed the hot hand. Specially if its the 26 highest scorer of all time!! And good teams get there good players rolling.

Look the one thing I'm well versed in is offensive basketball and if I'm complaining it's not about just what happens in this game against SCRUBS!!! I know what I'm talking about. I'm not anti Melo. I'm pointing out that this offense has to work for everyone and from what I see it's not benefiting the talents of everyone and especially not KP!!!

We have lost to plenty of scrub teams. What would you like to see? We both know the Triangle is there. We both know Melo is a post up player. And we both know we got Rose to penetrate and get easy baskets. More PnR with KP? Okay. Thats good. But my point is I dont care about offense, as it has not been the reason we have been losing. Regardless of the scrubs, want to see defensive effort.

You're too focused on this one game! I FULLY understand the importance of defense so that's not at issue. I'm telling you that this offense will not lead to winning if they continue this way! We lost some of the games because of not only poor D but even WORSE OFFENSE! This has been a trend during the losing. It's been poor offense that sucks the energy out of the team and they don't play hard on D! So yeah bad Offense has been a BIG part of the losing.

SocraticBallin22 @ 1/11/2017 9:14 PM
Noah with a huge offensive rebound with the game in the balance, and Rose with the dagger to close it.
Cartman718 @ 1/11/2017 9:15 PM
this rose standing around to end the 4th is what i hate....in past seasons, that used to be melo, prior to that marbury. ugh.
fitzfarm @ 1/11/2017 9:15 PM
rose with ice in his veins tonight
ScoreBot @ 1/11/2017 9:16 PM
4Q - 1:03
PHI 92 NYK 95
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