nyknickzingis wrote:Knixkik wrote:Seems like it's best to move on from Rose. I would rather just keep Jennings as a stopgap. It's all about building around Porzingis. For all of Rose's talents, he's not a great fit with Porzingis, and his attitude is clearly counter-productive to building the culture we want here.
I am fully on board with moving on from Rose. I have been advocating that for over a week now before this whole AWOL stuff even transpired. However what happens without Rose and still having Anthony? Are the Knicks better? Not really. Are they bad enough that they can go and get another KP type of talent up high in the draft? No.Hard to build around Porzingis so long as Anthony is around. Anthony has a NTC. He won't go anywhere. He's too happy living in NY. He
wants to retire a Knick, and although that may not happen, he certainly won't waive his NTC. If you're keeping Anthony, you may as well try to win as many games as possible, because if he plays 70 or more games a season, the Knicks will win 25+ of them. That's just the way it is.
Anthony has 2 more years left on his contract after this one. After that, Knicks can truly reform the team around KP and any other goods draft picks they have made in that time. Until then, I don't see what else we can do but to try and win the most games possible and have a coaching staff in place that thrives with Anthony.
This is where this type of thinking goes wrong. Giving him an NTC was a horrible mistake and just plain stupid. Making that the reason now to compound the mistake and make it even less about KP is about the worst thing we can do. You don't throw good money after bad money, you cut your losses and move on. If Melo takes the floor as Knick for two more seasons let him. We don't owe it to him or to anyone to try and put anything around him. That reasoning is self defeating and meaningless.
CrushAlot wrote:arkrud wrote:Culture and system makes NBA team a contender.
Players are as good as they fit into both.
Granted you need talent but there is a lot of talent in NBA and more coming at every draft.
Both Melo and Rose should win and make team a contender when they fit the system and culture.
But both of them are not capable individuals to recognize how and where they have to play to be successful and make team succeed.
The system and culture Phis and Horny trying to build is not for Melo and Rose type of players.
It demanded leadership, bbal IQ, character, team first attitude, sacrifice.
They both are in wrong place.
Phil is making everything possible to setup things to indirectly send them clear message that they need to move on.
Lets see if they can get the memo...
I think Melo is in NY longer than Phil. I think he might be waiting for him to move on.
They both will move on but Knicks will remain in NY.
I do not care about scoring champs and masters of the rings.
I am NY Knicks fan.
Melo cemented his legacy as huge disappointment in NY and part of 20 years of misery.
This all dudes who were on the team in this century are part of huge dark spot in Knicks history.
Patrick... bunch of junk...KP...HOPE...
Rose and Carmelo are DETRIMENTAL to the development of Porzingis that is the conundrum. Doesn't anyone see Porzingis bad shot selection and excessive dribbling? Porzingis is a spectacular shooter but he doesn't take as many high percentage shots as he should because we have poor passing and poor examples of how to play basketball led by Melo and Rose.
