Knicks · GT: Knicks @ Raptors (Sun 1/15 3pm EST) - Civil War 2 - will the North win again? (page 4)

nyknickzingis @ 1/15/2017 4:57 PM
franco12 wrote:Jennings, Baker - the scrubs show so much more effort & pride - start them the rest of the year.

We should seriously be considering giving Hernangomez and Kuz starter spots and develop them aside KP. Trade Melo to Clippers start over around KP, young talent and a high lottery 2017 draft pick.

ScoreBot @ 1/15/2017 5:00 PM
4Q - 8:04
TOR 102 NYK 80
Knicksfan @ 1/15/2017 5:03 PM
This is such a lost cause if you are rooting for wins.

But if you focus on the draft, life is easier as a Knicks fan.

ScoreBot @ 1/15/2017 5:04 PM
4Q - 6:43
TOR 104 NYK 83
WP76 @ 1/15/2017 5:05 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
WP76 wrote:Every time I think the Knicks can't turn in a more embarrassing performance, they prove me wrong. Two points in the third quarter. Disgusting.

hey hey its 6! i mean seriously wtf

Yeah, I posted that with less than two minutes to go in the third. I feel immeasurably better about that six point third quarter output.

ScoreBot @ 1/15/2017 5:08 PM
4Q - 5:21
TOR 108 NYK 85
ScoreBot @ 1/15/2017 5:12 PM
4Q - 4:02
TOR 110 NYK 88
newyorker4ever @ 1/15/2017 5:14 PM
holfresh wrote:How do we bring a bench roster of Admunson, Holiday, Baker, N'Dour, Kuz, Lance, Willy, Plumlee, Sasha into training camp and think we are going to compete..We have no shot..

The bench isn't as big a problem as the defense of Rose, Melo Jennings and some others is.

ScoreBot @ 1/15/2017 5:16 PM
4Q - 2:39
TOR 112 NYK 95
ScoreBot @ 1/15/2017 5:20 PM
4Q - 0:48
TOR 116 NYK 101
ScoreBot @ 1/15/2017 5:24 PM
FINAL
TOR 116 NYK 101
nyknickzingis @ 1/15/2017 5:24 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
holfresh wrote:How do we bring a bench roster of Admunson, Holiday, Baker, N'Dour, Kuz, Lance, Willy, Plumlee, Sasha into training camp and think we are going to compete..We have no shot..

The bench isn't as big a problem as the defense of Rose, Melo Jennings and some others is.


Yep it's all defense.
Knicks can't defend on a consistent basis they don't have the players with the agility commitment and skill.
holfresh @ 1/15/2017 5:26 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
holfresh wrote:How do we bring a bench roster of Admunson, Holiday, Baker, N'Dour, Kuz, Lance, Willy, Plumlee, Sasha into training camp and think we are going to compete..We have no shot..

The bench isn't as big a problem as the defense of Rose, Melo Jennings and some others is.

How could you say that when the game is lost in the second quarter most of the season..Look it up..We got blown out in the second quarter when Melo left..Maybe Melo can come back at the 6 minutes mark and lock down the team huh?

holfresh @ 1/15/2017 5:28 PM
And of course it's Defense...
MS @ 1/15/2017 5:31 PM
Rose is downright awful. He should have stayed in Chicago. There was a play in transition when Derozan was in front of him and he back peddled 10 feet and let him get all the way to the basket. Can't win with guys that don't know how to play.

Have to start working the phones and see what's valuable to other teams.

Knicks need to max out Gordon Hayward and sell him on teaming with Kristaps for the next 10 years. Need hungry guys that aren't interested in their brands and looking for their next pay day.

knickscity @ 1/15/2017 5:31 PM
Anyone who thought this team was good needs their head examined.
holfresh @ 1/15/2017 5:32 PM
Melo left the game with the Knicks up 2 @ 1:27 mark of the first and returns in the second down 10 @6:13..Toronto momentum established..Game over...I have seen this time and time again all season..And yes the defense sucks..
StarksEwing1 @ 1/15/2017 5:44 PM
Not having KP gives us little chance especially against tougher teams
arkrud @ 1/15/2017 5:54 PM
holfresh wrote:Melo left the game with the Knicks up 2 @ 1:27 mark of the first and returns in the second down 10 @6:13..Toronto momentum established..Game over...I have seen this time and time again all season..And yes the defense sucks..

Melo need to move up this all time scoring list.
If he will play more and will try on defense and bring useless Knicks back in the games he will get injured.
Let the man get his points and justify for himself the No-trade-exception he earned as future Hall of Shamers... oops.. I meant to say Famers...

holfresh @ 1/15/2017 6:11 PM
arkrud wrote:
holfresh wrote:Melo left the game with the Knicks up 2 @ 1:27 mark of the first and returns in the second down 10 @6:13..Toronto momentum established..Game over...I have seen this time and time again all season..And yes the defense sucks..

Melo need to move up this all time scoring list.
If he will play more and will try on defense and bring useless Knicks back in the games he will get injured.
Let the man get his points and justify for himself the No-trade-exception he earned as future Hall of Shamers... oops.. I meant to say Famers...

It's all Melo..He should be playing defense when he is on the bench too...He can stop entire teams and just doesn't because he is lazy...

yellowboy90 @ 1/15/2017 6:12 PM
holfresh wrote:Melo left the game with the Knicks up 2 @ 1:27 mark of the first and returns in the second down 10 @6:13..Toronto momentum established..Game over...I have seen this time and time again all season..And yes the defense sucks..

This is true but he needed to focus on defense to stabilize the team when he comes back in. He has to lead on both ends. Ultimately the entire team lacks defensive talent at any position. That maybe a stretch, KP has defensive talent as a shot blocker but struggles on the perimeter and against strength.

Sidenote: Jeff going big and moving Melo back to the 3 was an excellent tank move to start the 2nd half.

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