nyknickzingis wrote:crzymdups wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:This is the Melo Phil wanted to transform
Where has this competitive Melo been?
Seriously - do you not remember he was playing this way when Phil started needling him? He also injured his shoulder around then.
He was not
Last season there was a stretch under Fish he played this way
We all celebrated
Thought Melo got it finally
Then he regressed
I feel he saw Rose n Jennings and thought ok I can focus on scoring
Guess you didn't see what happened in Boston. Convenient
HofstraBBall wrote:fitzfarm wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:nixluva wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:crzymdups wrote:Melo, hustling, bustling, muscling, sticking it to Phil
Sticking it? This is how he should be playing every DAMN game!
Exactly!!! As he completes a wild 4 PT play.
People don't know Phil
I used to follow the Bulls.
He has a huge understanding of human psychology
His mind games are with full intention to get best possible result
But I don't buy this Melo shows up rest of the season
If he does and Rose passes like this we make the playoffs
Exactly Phil used to do this to Jordan and pippen all the time ... melo came back and said he's staying no matter what, and is playing a complete game ... we need melo to play like this every game
Shaq touched on this. He said the difference is that Phil was in the locker room everyday, not absent in oblivion.
Exactly. The same tactics that work as a coach may not work as well as an executive who is rarely around the team.
In fact, it seems to have the exact opposite effect.
nixluva wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Melo is proving That he can play the way the team needs him too and still get his points. It just takes a lot more effort to do it all.
That's why I don't trust it. If he keeps this up then great but does anyone believe he will?
He is getting help today. He played well the other night but we lost because he had no help. Winning shines a different light on shit.
WP76 wrote:Knixkik wrote:KP getting called for some cheap fouls.
He picks up a lot of dumb fouls but his last one IMO was ticky-tack.
Fouls all big men get taught not to do in college.
Melo plays like this once in a while. If he played like this all the time or on a consistent basis you would not hear anyone question his fire or his desire to win.
Look at that ball movement by Rose and Willy for the holiday 3
HofstraBBall wrote:holfresh wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:This is the Melo Phil wanted to transform
Where has this competitive Melo been?
Melo looks great when his mates knock down their shots...
If Melo has a bad game its Melo's fault, not the Psychologist. If he has a good game its the psychology of Phil. Smfh
You have to be honest an admit they the effort on D and ball movement is there tonight and not there most nights. The points are the same!
HofstraBBall wrote:nixluva wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Melo is proving That he can play the way the team needs him too and still get his points. It just takes a lot more effort to do it all.
That's why I don't trust it. If he keeps this up then great but does anyone believe he will?
He is getting help today. He played well the other night but we lost because he had no help. Winning shines a different light on shit.
You really don't understand why Melo gets bashed. It's because he doesn't always play team ball or hustle on D!!! That's what my thread was all about.
nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:holfresh wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:This is the Melo Phil wanted to transform
Where has this competitive Melo been?
Melo looks great when his mates knock down their shots...
that's not always true.
He gets the blame when they don't...
No he gets the blame when he's not looking to help make his teammates better!!! MELO IS NOT A F'N VICTIM HERE!!!
Last game..Melo was 8-14 in the first half and his mates were 9-33..You blamed Melo and Rose...Rose was out for 4 games yet you still blamed both guys...And Rose only took 8 shots all game...
LACK OF BALL MOVEMENT AND D.
You ever think we defend Melo not because we think he is a victim but because its easy for you guys to make him a scapegoat and ignore all the real issues and obvious bullshit going on here? Mainly the managment and other players shitting the pot.
4Q - 5:29
NYK 105 LAC 100
How the F is that a foul on Melo???
4Q - 4:36
NYK 107 LAC 104
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:holfresh wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:This is the Melo Phil wanted to transform
Where has this competitive Melo been?
Melo looks great when his mates knock down their shots...
If Melo has a bad game its Melo's fault, not the Psychologist. If he has a good game its the psychology of Phil. Smfh
You have to be honest an admit they the effort on D and ball movement is there tonight and not there most nights. The points are the same!
Absolutely. All the way around on Defense. And better ball movement. But what people dont understand is the guy is a post up player. He has to hold the ball to gauge the defense. And i have said many times, I hate his Iso by the three point line. Total force. But agree, they are all moving on D better.
This is the lineup I was saying to play the other night -
Rose
Holiday
CLee
Melo
KOQ
Melo looks far better on defense at the 4. Even guarding a guy like Blake Griffin... it's not about "effort"... it's about putting your guys in position to succeed!
The Knicks need two WINGS on the floor to defend. The problem is we only really have two wings on the team period. During the Knicks really good years with Melo they had Shump, JR, Timmy Jr.
edit: as soon as I type that they take out KOQ and put in KP. le sigh.
Only against NY does Jordan hit four straight FTs.
