NYKBocker wrote:
Hahn backed this up on his radio show, said people saw him slurring and being abusive and the security guys all were big Oakley fans and it killed them to have to remove him and hinted that Oakley had some sort of substance issue. I know Hahn is MSG, but I don't think he out and out would lie like that (he's been tearing into the Knicks for weeks).
At this point I have no idea what the truth is (I find it weird none of the vids show Oakley being abusive to Dolan if he was)- but the fact its come to this just reminds me how much I hate Dolan, and how nice it's been to see and hear so little from him since Phil took over- remember when he was our defacto GM just before he hired Phil?!
smackeddog wrote:NYKBocker wrote:
Hahn backed this up on his radio show, said people saw him slurring and being abusive and the security guys all were big Oakley fans and it killed them to have to remove him and hinted that Oakley had some sort of substance issue. I know Hahn is MSG, but I don't think he out and out would lie like that (he's been tearing into the Knicks for weeks).
At this point I have no idea what the truth is (I find it weird none of the vids show Oakley being abusive to Dolan if he was)- but the fact its come to this just reminds me how much I hate Dolan, and how nice it's been to see and hear so little from him since Phil took over- remember when he was our defacto GM just before he hired Phil?!
This is why I believe Oak right now. Oak has always been a straight shooter. Dolan is a lying piece of shit. This is 2017, if Oak was making a scene and being abusive then somebody would have surely recorded this on their phone. Just like when Oak started pushing the security guards. Oak said he was yelling and and combatant after he was surrounded but not before they came and surrounded him.
Also..I think Hahn is towing the company line.
Oak went to a bar after being released from the police station and recorded a statement....does anyone else find that strange?
NYKBocker wrote:smackeddog wrote:NYKBocker wrote:
Hahn backed this up on his radio show, said people saw him slurring and being abusive and the security guys all were big Oakley fans and it killed them to have to remove him and hinted that Oakley had some sort of substance issue. I know Hahn is MSG, but I don't think he out and out would lie like that (he's been tearing into the Knicks for weeks).
At this point I have no idea what the truth is (I find it weird none of the vids show Oakley being abusive to Dolan if he was)- but the fact its come to this just reminds me how much I hate Dolan, and how nice it's been to see and hear so little from him since Phil took over- remember when he was our defacto GM just before he hired Phil?!
This is why I believe Oak right now. Oak has always been a straight shooter. Dolan is a lying piece of shit. This is 2017, if Oak was making a scene and being abusive then somebody would have surely recorded this on their phone. Just like when Oak started pushing the security guards. Oak said he was yelling and and combatant after he was surrounded but not before they came and surrounded him.
Also..I think Hahn is towing the company line.
I'm don't think hahn would lie outright lie that either- he was hinting there was stuff he couldn't say. But then like I said where are the recordings of Oakley being abusive?
I don't have a problem with him hitting the security guard because once you're surrounded like that, your fight or flight (or freeze) response takes over and it's very hard to ground yourself.
Andrew wrote:Oak went to a bar after being released from the police station and recorded a statement....does anyone else find that strange?
Oak was threatening Suge Knight boys(8 or 9 deep) in the 90s at the Garden..He asked them if they knew where they were..These are gangsters..Is that strange??..You are trying to rationalize Oakley..
Based on the PR tweet, it seems like the Knicks have some concrete stuff showing Oak that night. If so they should show it to a respected media member and have them report it. Releasing it to the public does not help them.
Andrew wrote:Based on the PR tweet, it seems like the Knicks have some concrete stuff showing Oak that night. If so they should show it to a respected media member and have them report it. Releasing it to the public does not help them.
It as low class trying to say there was something wrong with him and hopes he gets help...That's where they lost the PR battle...
holfresh wrote:Andrew wrote:Based on the PR tweet, it seems like the Knicks have some concrete stuff showing Oak that night. If so they should show it to a respected media member and have them report it. Releasing it to the public does not help them.
It as low class trying to say there was something wrong with him and hopes he gets help...That's where they lost the PR battle...
I agree....that was a big mistake.
If Dolan had a brain (Lakers Phil Jackson) when a Knicks Legend Oakley are in ur presence the best question to ask Oakley "how much would u charge for a 1 yr contract as a personal bench-coach for our Future Star KP n rookie Willie-Kuz"
The thought of having Oak in our coaching staff as a Knick Fan ......
Kemet wrote:If Dolan had a brain (Lakers Phil Jackson) when a Knicks Legend Oakley are in ur presence the best question to ask Oakley "how much would u charge for a 1 yr contract as a personal bench-coach for our Future Star KP n rookie Willie-Kuz"
The thought of having Oak in our coaching staff as a Knick Fan ......
We all know ex players don't always relate as coach. Oak was a coach in Charlotte. Can one really teach toughness? What made him loved was his combative nature. Oak used what he could as he was not the most talented or gifted basketball players. Todays game is less physical with an emphasis of offensive talent. Defense is important with long athletic players being the preferred type for the game.
franco12 wrote:NYKBocker wrote:franco12 wrote:Nalod wrote:franco12 wrote:You're not going to get the fans to boycott over this.But, what would be really cool is if the players refused to play the next home in protest.
That, or they all take the court wearing Oakley Jerseys!
"Oak lives matter!!"
C'mon now, Oak loves the attention.
players were evidently talking about wearing a shirt to honor him during warm ups.
Which players? Knick players? That would be awesome but I doubt end of the bench guys would do this.
I think it was mentioned on Hahn & Humpty - Hahn said, if you want to honor Oak, play defense!
hah!!
