Knicks · The fix is in? We are gonna get the #1 pick? (page 1)

KP4Life @ 2/17/2017 11:49 AM
Anybody feel like the nba is trying to get us to lose? All these bs call from the refs. No calls. Maybe we our being in position to win the lottery in the draft? Hasn't happened in 30 years for us.
Vmart @ 2/17/2017 11:54 AM
Lets not do this again and again and again.
martin @ 2/17/2017 12:08 PM
KP4Life wrote:Anybody feel like the nba is trying to get us to lose? All these bs call from the refs. No calls. Maybe we our being in position to win the lottery in the draft? Hasn't happened in 30 years for us.

I was thinking the same. This NEEDS to happen

Knixkik @ 2/17/2017 12:22 PM
For as good as the talent is, there's no obvious #1 pick. We would probably screw it up.
StarksEwing1 @ 2/17/2017 12:43 PM
Knixkik wrote:For as good as the talent is, there's no obvious #1 pick. We would probably screw it up.
so far our draft picks have been good with KP and Willy. I felt cleanthony early was a steal but faced bad luck with injuries and the shooting incident
crzymdups @ 2/17/2017 12:46 PM
Knixkik wrote:For as good as the talent is, there's no obvious #1 pick. We would probably screw it up.

Have you seen Fultz play? He seems like a lock to be an all-star guard in the new style NBA.

crzymdups @ 2/17/2017 12:47 PM
I've sort of been wondering this as well. We are certainly due some good luck in the draft. We can help our own cause by getting up to the 5th slot. Teams jump up from 4/5/6 to #1 all the time.
smackeddog @ 2/17/2017 12:48 PM
KP4Life wrote:Anybody feel like the nba is trying to get us to lose? All these bs call from the refs. No calls. Maybe we our being in position to win the lottery in the draft? Hasn't happened in 30 years for us.

The way I look on it- they're either trying to get us good standing in the draft, in which case, thanks, or they are just doing it out of spite, in which case we'll have the last laugh if we end up with a high pick.

fishmike @ 2/17/2017 12:55 PM
crzymdups wrote:I've sort of been wondering this as well. We are certainly due some good luck in the draft. We can help our own cause by getting up to the 5th slot. Teams jump up from 4/5/6 to #1 all the time.
agree... its a real sweet spot. If we finished 5 or 6 that would be great. We just need a blue chip wing.
EnySpree @ 2/17/2017 1:58 PM
fishmike wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I've sort of been wondering this as well. We are certainly due some good luck in the draft. We can help our own cause by getting up to the 5th slot. Teams jump up from 4/5/6 to #1 all the time.
agree... its a real sweet spot. If we finished 5 or 6 that would be great. We just need a blue chip wing.

Who you looking at Fish?

Kemet @ 2/17/2017 2:26 PM
The Knicks has never been a decent developing team for young players .. the Knicks has been coaching to lose games by the clueless-substitution small-ball rotation and sorry starter lineups for the past decade. The last time the Knicks performed having teammates on the same-page were for one season having ex-player/coach PG-Jason Kidd and multi-veteran experience players on the roster during the 2012-13 season.
Knixkik @ 2/17/2017 2:49 PM
crzymdups wrote:
Knixkik wrote:For as good as the talent is, there's no obvious #1 pick. We would probably screw it up.

Have you seen Fultz play? He seems like a lock to be an all-star guard in the new style NBA.

Yeah i have seen them all play. Fultz is going to be good. Like a Lillard-type caliber player i think. A bunch of all-stars out of this group, but i am not sure about franchise changing players. Any of the top 1-8 picks could end up being the best from this draft class i think.

ramtour420 @ 2/17/2017 2:52 PM
Oh yeah baby! Just like every year, all of them missed ref calls are here because the NBA favors the Knicks. Yes, uhh- huh, definitely
ekstarks94 @ 2/17/2017 7:50 PM
KP4Life wrote:Anybody feel like the nba is trying to get us to lose? All these bs call from the refs. No calls. Maybe we our being in position to win the lottery in the draft? Hasn't happened in 30 years for us.

After we got shafted on the 4th pick instead of the 2nd flipping with the Lakers in 2015.... hell yeah...although it was a blessing in disguise because it saved us from Russell and Okafor

CrushAlot @ 2/17/2017 8:57 PM
That would be amazing. Have to think Cleveland getting the #1 pick 3 out of 4 years after LBJ left wasn't a coincidence.
Allanfan20 @ 2/17/2017 9:28 PM
We've been coming up with this conspiracy every year the Knocks are in the lottery. There never was a fix and isn't a fix now. The NBA is successful as hell without a good Knicks team. There is no need for them to do this, especially with all the drama they cause.
CrushAlot @ 2/17/2017 9:37 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:We've been coming up with this conspiracy every year the Knocks are in the lottery. There never was a fix and isn't a fix now. The NBA is successful as hell without a good Knicks team. There is no need for them to do this, especially with all the drama they cause.
I haven't read any details, only headlines. But it sounds like Dolan was ready to offer Oak a job. If that is the case I have to believe he is listening to Silver. Did the nba need the Cavs to be good after LBJ?
ekstarks94 @ 2/17/2017 10:30 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:We've been coming up with this conspiracy every year the Knocks are in the lottery. There never was a fix and isn't a fix now. The NBA is successful as hell without a good Knicks team. There is no need for them to do this, especially with all the drama they cause.

Would be more successful if the Knicks were good again....you can find Knicks fans everywhere...good...bad...indifferent

Can you say that about the Cavs without Bron....

smackeddog @ 2/18/2017 3:36 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:We've been coming up with this conspiracy every year the Knocks are in the lottery. There never was a fix and isn't a fix now. The NBA is successful as hell without a good Knicks team. There is no need for them to do this, especially with all the drama they cause.
I haven't read any details, only headlines. But it sounds like Dolan was ready to offer Oak a job. If that is the case I have to believe he is listening to Silver. Did the nba need the Cavs to be good after LBJ?

The Cavs luck in the draft has been ridiculous- think it proves there is no rigging, because no one would rig it to look that obvious. Wish we had their luck!

TripleThreat @ 2/18/2017 11:31 PM
CrushAlot wrote: Did the nba need the Cavs to be good after LBJ?


Driving Donald Sterling out, for things he clearly was for 20 years as an owner, so they could sell the franchise for 2 billion to Steve Balmer - All NBA franchises valuations go up. Owners are happy, the value of the franchises go up and really all it cost them was an owner they didn't like anyway.

LBJ leaving Cleveland, humiliating the entire town in the process on the way out, right before a massive labor war was about to break out. Clear message - If you aren't a "big market" then you are just the Washington Nationals, you are a farm team to be gutted for the bigger market teams and you have ZERO chance to win. No investor group, who could pick from NFL or MLB or NBA teams to buy, will prefer the NBA teams. Big market ones aren't going to be sold, small market ones that do well are doomed to lose and never contend. Cavs became a poster child for what would happen to your small market NBA team, thus rigging of multiple drafts to rebuild them and the Mavs winning right after a major labor war, just like the Pistons winning in a team format without a super star, right after a major labor war.

Stern's NBA operates off of "The Narrative" Who gives the most marketable storyline? That's who wins. Does the best singer win American Idol? Or the best balance of a passable voice, good looks and sex appeal, with a nice backstory like living in the back of a van.

If Oprah Winfrey had an adult age daughter and Melo married her, the Knicks would win an NBA championship. Pure and simple.

Should tell you something that the Warriors won a chip, and did it with true team ball but the marketing narrative was how awesome LBJ was the entire time.

If Dolan sold the franchise to Oprah, the Knicks would win a championship in three years.

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