Knicks · Isola is such an AZZHOLE! (page 1)

BigRedDog @ 2/27/2017 4:59 PM
He is such a negative jerk, wanting to attack Phil at every opportunity. From his article today talking about a rose- Rubio trade---
"Had the deal gone through, Jackson would have essentially traded Rose, Jerian Grant and Robin Lopez for Rubio. That's bad."

Not sure if he ever took math in high school but if the deal went through it would have been Lopez and Grant for Rubio and Holiday. Not too bad. What a fuking mess Isola is.

Andrew @ 2/27/2017 6:56 PM
Saw that too. Such a silly statement
EnySpree @ 2/27/2017 7:01 PM
If you look at the forum and outlets all over the internet, alot of fans copy his jargon. People love it! My Co workers are the worse cuz they just repeat what he says word for word like it's theirs. He admittedly said he doesn't like the Knicks and doesn't like covering them. I wish he would retire already. That Bondy kid on the daily news is becoming his clone too.
crzymdups @ 2/27/2017 7:13 PM
Do you guys think the Knicks are bad by magic? Or that the decisions the guys running the team make have an impact on the record?
nyknickzingis @ 2/27/2017 7:16 PM
Knicks were bad before Phil came to town

At least he got us KP and a future

Not upset with him

Dolan is the bigger problem

crzymdups @ 2/27/2017 7:19 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:Knicks were bad before Phil came to town

At least he got us KP and a future

Not upset with him

Dolan is the bigger problem

Knicks won 54 games before Phil came to town. He traded the guts of that team for zero return, which is why we're in year three of a rebuild that probably has about four more years to go.

EwingsGlass @ 2/27/2017 7:28 PM
If I were as bad at my job as Isola is at his, I would consider a new career. His writing is trivial, reactionary and lacks understanding. Perhaps he has a skill set outside of NY Knicks basketball, but his biases are so blatant, it makes it seem as though he has a mental block. The newer writers for the DN and the Post appear to be making an attempt at real coverage, but it seems like FIsola and Berman have way too much history to be good beat writers at this point.
nyknickzingis @ 2/27/2017 8:28 PM
crzymdups wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:Knicks were bad before Phil came to town

At least he got us KP and a future

Not upset with him

Dolan is the bigger problem

Knicks won 54 games before Phil came to town. He traded the guts of that team for zero return, which is why we're in year three of a rebuild that probably has about four more years to go.

Knicks were a lottery team when Jackson took over in March
That was the season before that
Jackson came after the trade deadline and the team was awful that year
I guess u want to blame the 37win Woodson season on Phil too?
What about Bargnani trade? Phil again?

crzymdups @ 2/27/2017 8:51 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:Knicks were bad before Phil came to town

At least he got us KP and a future

Not upset with him

Dolan is the bigger problem

Knicks won 54 games before Phil came to town. He traded the guts of that team for zero return, which is why we're in year three of a rebuild that probably has about four more years to go.

Knicks were a lottery team when Jackson took over in March
That was the season before that
Jackson came after the trade deadline and the team was awful that year
I guess u want to blame the 37win Woodson season on Phil too?
What about Bargnani trade? Phil again?

How about because reigning defensive player of the year Tyson Chandler missed almost 40 games with a broken leg. When he came back they finished the season on 14-6 run and missed the playoffs by a game.


That season isn't on Phil, but the fact that he gave away 75% of that team for zero return is why this rebuild has so far to go still. Tyson, Felton, Shump, JR - the only asset on the team for all four of those guys (who were 4 of the top 6 players on our team ) is.. Lance Thomas, I think?

fishmike @ 2/27/2017 9:42 PM
crzymdups wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:Knicks were bad before Phil came to town

At least he got us KP and a future

Not upset with him

Dolan is the bigger problem

Knicks won 54 games before Phil came to town. He traded the guts of that team for zero return, which is why we're in year three of a rebuild that probably has about four more years to go.

Knicks were a lottery team when Jackson took over in March
That was the season before that
Jackson came after the trade deadline and the team was awful that year
I guess u want to blame the 37win Woodson season on Phil too?
What about Bargnani trade? Phil again?

How about because reigning defensive player of the year Tyson Chandler missed almost 40 games with a broken leg. When he came back they finished the season on 14-6 run and missed the playoffs by a game.


That season isn't on Phil, but the fact that he gave away 75% of that team for zero return is why this rebuild has so far to go still. Tyson, Felton, Shump, JR - the only asset on the team for all four of those guys (who were 4 of the top 6 players on our team ) is.. Lance Thomas, I think?

Thats about it... Lance is it. Tyson was a fail. If you swap him for Lopez or Noah Im not sure if what difference we see. Plus he didnt like Melo and was critical of him so he had to go. As far as Shump or JR which one of those guys do you want under their current deals? I would rather have Lance and Lee over Shump and JR. One could certainly say that Lance/Lee are lateral moves over JR/Shump and that might be true, but its part of the roster turn over.

Guys leave. They move on. Sometime you dont bring them back. That happens. Are you expecting every player that leaves to yield some asset upon exit? Sounds nice but is that reality?

crzymdups @ 2/27/2017 9:57 PM
fishmike wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:Knicks were bad before Phil came to town

At least he got us KP and a future

Not upset with him

Dolan is the bigger problem

Knicks won 54 games before Phil came to town. He traded the guts of that team for zero return, which is why we're in year three of a rebuild that probably has about four more years to go.

Knicks were a lottery team when Jackson took over in March
That was the season before that
Jackson came after the trade deadline and the team was awful that year
I guess u want to blame the 37win Woodson season on Phil too?
What about Bargnani trade? Phil again?

How about because reigning defensive player of the year Tyson Chandler missed almost 40 games with a broken leg. When he came back they finished the season on 14-6 run and missed the playoffs by a game.


That season isn't on Phil, but the fact that he gave away 75% of that team for zero return is why this rebuild has so far to go still. Tyson, Felton, Shump, JR - the only asset on the team for all four of those guys (who were 4 of the top 6 players on our team ) is.. Lance Thomas, I think?

Thats about it... Lance is it. Tyson was a fail. If you swap him for Lopez or Noah Im not sure if what difference we see. Plus he didnt like Melo and was critical of him so he had to go. As far as Shump or JR which one of those guys do you want under their current deals? I would rather have Lance and Lee over Shump and JR. One could certainly say that Lance/Lee are lateral moves over JR/Shump and that might be true, but its part of the roster turn over.

Guys leave. They move on. Sometime you dont bring them back. That happens. Are you expecting every player that leaves to yield some asset upon exit? Sounds nice but is that reality?

Lateral moves from a 37win team equal a 37win team. Phil's had three years of lateral moves.

meloshouldgo @ 2/27/2017 10:04 PM
crzymdups wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:Knicks were bad before Phil came to town

At least he got us KP and a future

Not upset with him

Dolan is the bigger problem

Knicks won 54 games before Phil came to town. He traded the guts of that team for zero return, which is why we're in year three of a rebuild that probably has about four more years to go.

You guys really need to get over this 54 games thing. Phil was hired on March 2014, we were a 37 win team in 2013-14 season.

Record: 37-45, Finished 3rd in NBA Atlantic Division
Coach: Mike Woodson (37-45)
PTS/G: 98.6 (20th of 30) Opp PTS/G: 99.4 (8th of 30)
SRS: -1.40 (19th of 30) Pace: 90.3 (28th of 30)
Off Rtg: 108.3 (11th of 30) Def Rtg: 109.1 (24th of 30)
Expected W-L: 39-43 (18th of 30)
Arena: Madison Square Garden (IV) Attendance: 812,292 (3rd of 30)

Save the revisionist history and get you facts straight. We are not in year 3 of a rebuild. We are in Year 0.5 of a rebuild after 2.5 years of "putting players around Melo". Hopefully we done chasing that wild goose, because I don't know about you but I am tired of watching this 3 ring circus.

Exaggerating the value of the players we traded and ridiculing the current roster must feel good and fits with the agenda, but it's not based on reality. 54 wins my ass.

http://www.espn.com/new-york/nba/story/_...

meloshouldgo @ 2/27/2017 10:06 PM
This is what the reality looked like

Jackson inherits a Knicks' roster that doesn't have much flexibility in the near future.

With or without Anthony, the Knicks are expected to be over the salary cap this summer because of the contracts of Amar'e Stoudemire ($23.4 million), Tyson Chandler ($14.6 million) and Andrea Bargnani ($11.5 million), which run through 2014-15.

So Jackson probably will have to trade one of those three players if he wants to reshape the roster.

crzymdups @ 2/27/2017 10:28 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:Knicks were bad before Phil came to town

At least he got us KP and a future

Not upset with him

Dolan is the bigger problem

Knicks won 54 games before Phil came to town. He traded the guts of that team for zero return, which is why we're in year three of a rebuild that probably has about four more years to go.

You guys really need to get over this 54 games thing. Phil was hired on March 2014, we were a 37 win team in 2013-14 season.

Record: 37-45, Finished 3rd in NBA Atlantic Division
Coach: Mike Woodson (37-45)
PTS/G: 98.6 (20th of 30) Opp PTS/G: 99.4 (8th of 30)
SRS: -1.40 (19th of 30) Pace: 90.3 (28th of 30)
Off Rtg: 108.3 (11th of 30) Def Rtg: 109.1 (24th of 30)
Expected W-L: 39-43 (18th of 30)
Arena: Madison Square Garden (IV) Attendance: 812,292 (3rd of 30)

Save the revisionist history and get you facts straight. We are not in year 3 of a rebuild. We are in Year 0.5 of a rebuild after 2.5 years of "putting players around Melo". Hopefully we done chasing that wild goose, because I don't know about you but I am tired of watching this 3 ring circus.

Exaggerating the value of the players we traded and ridiculing the current roster must feel good and fits with the agenda, but it's not based on reality. 54 wins my ass.

http://www.espn.com/new-york/nba/story/_...

Really? What was the 17 win season? Why did Rambis call last year "Year 0"?

fwk00 @ 2/27/2017 10:53 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:This is what the reality looked like

Jackson inherits a Knicks' roster that doesn't have much flexibility in the near future.

With or without Anthony, the Knicks are expected to be over the salary cap this summer because of the contracts of Amar'e Stoudemire ($23.4 million), Tyson Chandler ($14.6 million) and Andrea Bargnani ($11.5 million), which run through 2014-15.

So Jackson probably will have to trade one of those three players if he wants to reshape the roster.

Oh, that's way too rosy a picture of what Jax inherited. There was Amare punching a fire hydrant. Then we had Felton caught up in a domestic dispute involving a firearm that kept Azzhola and Berman in prime time Knicks bashing mode. By now, Walsh was being thrown under the bus, wheelchair and all. And Chandler spent the season ringing up technical fouls for, well, just being an a-hole on the court just about every time he set foot on the court.

Yeah, the good old days when today's Jax bashers were convinced "there is no way Jax can trade Felton or Chandler. NO WAY. Our players suck compare to all the other players in the league". Yep. Jax should have been able to do some other magical thinking maneuvers to have gotten exactly the right players in return. Not that we weren't thrilled to actually have acquired two second round picks in a draft year when we had ZERO.

Oh, oh, let's NOT forget Fisher's contribution to dysfunction by getting cought up in an extramarital affair that played out as a public fist-fight. Let's blame Phil for something there too.

The fumes of Bargnani still permeated the rafters at MSG. And when we tried to resign Lin of course Houston twisted the knife in our backs pretty well.

So yeah, its easy to see how its all Jax's fault, the Knicks world is an imperfect one - what else to do but blame the administration for the will of the basketball gods.

Idiots.

crzymdups @ 2/27/2017 11:02 PM
fwk00 wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:This is what the reality looked like

Jackson inherits a Knicks' roster that doesn't have much flexibility in the near future.

With or without Anthony, the Knicks are expected to be over the salary cap this summer because of the contracts of Amar'e Stoudemire ($23.4 million), Tyson Chandler ($14.6 million) and Andrea Bargnani ($11.5 million), which run through 2014-15.

So Jackson probably will have to trade one of those three players if he wants to reshape the roster.

Oh, that's way too rosy a picture of what Jax inherited. There was Amare punching a fire hydrant. Then we had Felton caught up in a domestic dispute involving a firearm that kept Azzhola and Berman in prime time Knicks bashing mode. By now, Walsh was being thrown under the bus, wheelchair and all. And Chandler spent the season ringing up technical fouls for, well, just being an a-hole on the court just about every time he set foot on the court.

Yeah, the good old days when today's Jax bashers were convinced "there is no way Jax can trade Felton or Chandler. NO WAY. Our players suck compare to all the other players in the league". Yep. Jax should have been able to do some other magical thinking maneuvers to have gotten exactly the right players in return. Not that we weren't thrilled to actually have acquired two second round picks in a draft year when we had ZERO.

Oh, oh, let's NOT forget Fisher's contribution to dysfunction by getting cought up in an extramarital affair that played out as a public fist-fight. Let's blame Phil for something there too.

The fumes of Bargnani still permeated the rafters at MSG. And when we tried to resign Lin of course Houston twisted the knife in our backs pretty well.

So yeah, its easy to see how its all Jax's fault, the Knicks world is an imperfect one - what else to do but blame the administration for the will of the basketball gods.

Idiots.

It's easy to see you're on the msg payroll because you always blame the players and never any management decision.

Re-signing Lin? Huh? That happened two years before Jackson arrived.

If Phil wanted to blow it up, maybe he should've moved Melo when he could've gotten something in return for him. It's funny how all the supposed worthless untradeable Knicks are still in the league and most of the guys Phil traded Tyson and Felton for are out of the league. Funny how you can trade almost anything if you're willing to take garbage in return.

Also, funny to blame Fisher who was handpicked by Jackson.

Blame annnnnyone but Jackson. It's cool. By the way that team of garbage parts that Phil had to give away for dog poop finished the season 14-6. No roster Phil has ever assembled here in the three years since then has ever won 14 out of 20 games at any point.

Nalod @ 2/27/2017 11:30 PM
crzymdups wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:Knicks were bad before Phil came to town

At least he got us KP and a future

Not upset with him

Dolan is the bigger problem

Knicks won 54 games before Phil came to town. He traded the guts of that team for zero return, which is why we're in year three of a rebuild that probably has about four more years to go.

This again?

What was the guts by the way? A 37 win team.

fwk00 @ 2/27/2017 11:37 PM
crzymdups wrote:
fwk00 wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:This is what the reality looked like

Jackson inherits a Knicks' roster that doesn't have much flexibility in the near future.

With or without Anthony, the Knicks are expected to be over the salary cap this summer because of the contracts of Amar'e Stoudemire ($23.4 million), Tyson Chandler ($14.6 million) and Andrea Bargnani ($11.5 million), which run through 2014-15.

So Jackson probably will have to trade one of those three players if he wants to reshape the roster.

Oh, that's way too rosy a picture of what Jax inherited. There was Amare punching a fire hydrant. Then we had Felton caught up in a domestic dispute involving a firearm that kept Azzhola and Berman in prime time Knicks bashing mode. By now, Walsh was being thrown under the bus, wheelchair and all. And Chandler spent the season ringing up technical fouls for, well, just being an a-hole on the court just about every time he set foot on the court.

Yeah, the good old days when today's Jax bashers were convinced "there is no way Jax can trade Felton or Chandler. NO WAY. Our players suck compare to all the other players in the league". Yep. Jax should have been able to do some other magical thinking maneuvers to have gotten exactly the right players in return. Not that we weren't thrilled to actually have acquired two second round picks in a draft year when we had ZERO.

Oh, oh, let's NOT forget Fisher's contribution to dysfunction by getting cought up in an extramarital affair that played out as a public fist-fight. Let's blame Phil for something there too.

The fumes of Bargnani still permeated the rafters at MSG. And when we tried to resign Lin of course Houston twisted the knife in our backs pretty well.

So yeah, its easy to see how its all Jax's fault, the Knicks world is an imperfect one - what else to do but blame the administration for the will of the basketball gods.

Idiots.

It's easy to see you're on the msg payroll because you always blame the players and never any management decision.

Re-signing Lin? Huh? That happened two years before Jackson arrived.

If Phil wanted to blow it up, maybe he should've moved Melo when he could've gotten something in return for him. It's funny how all the supposed worthless untradeable Knicks are still in the league and most of the guys Phil traded Tyson and Felton for are out of the league. Funny how you can trade almost anything if you're willing to take garbage in return.

Also, funny to blame Fisher who was handpicked by Jackson.

Blame annnnnyone but Jackson. It's cool. By the way that team of garbage parts that Phil had to give away for dog poop finished the season 14-6. No roster Phil has ever assembled here in the three years since then has ever won 14 out of 20 games at any point.

Yeah, I do lose track of how smoothly the Knicks functioned before Phil. Boy do we miss those days.

You know people like you dump on everyone wearing a knicks jersey and then whine as if we just traded Lebron for Noah. I was even good with what Isiah tried to do. It ended disastrously but he played a very limited set of options he was given and failed. I forgive him.

Running the Knicks is not easy and all you armchair GMs make it sound like child's play. Grow the F up. If you are looking for perfection given where we've been you will never be content even when we start winning.

JamesKPolk @ 2/28/2017 12:05 AM
Phil Jackson has been a terrible general manager.

Isola is right and his article was spot on.

JamesKPolk @ 2/28/2017 12:06 AM
fwk00 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
fwk00 wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:This is what the reality looked like

Jackson inherits a Knicks' roster that doesn't have much flexibility in the near future.

With or without Anthony, the Knicks are expected to be over the salary cap this summer because of the contracts of Amar'e Stoudemire ($23.4 million), Tyson Chandler ($14.6 million) and Andrea Bargnani ($11.5 million), which run through 2014-15.

So Jackson probably will have to trade one of those three players if he wants to reshape the roster.

Oh, that's way too rosy a picture of what Jax inherited. There was Amare punching a fire hydrant. Then we had Felton caught up in a domestic dispute involving a firearm that kept Azzhola and Berman in prime time Knicks bashing mode. By now, Walsh was being thrown under the bus, wheelchair and all. And Chandler spent the season ringing up technical fouls for, well, just being an a-hole on the court just about every time he set foot on the court.

Yeah, the good old days when today's Jax bashers were convinced "there is no way Jax can trade Felton or Chandler. NO WAY. Our players suck compare to all the other players in the league". Yep. Jax should have been able to do some other magical thinking maneuvers to have gotten exactly the right players in return. Not that we weren't thrilled to actually have acquired two second round picks in a draft year when we had ZERO.

Oh, oh, let's NOT forget Fisher's contribution to dysfunction by getting cought up in an extramarital affair that played out as a public fist-fight. Let's blame Phil for something there too.

The fumes of Bargnani still permeated the rafters at MSG. And when we tried to resign Lin of course Houston twisted the knife in our backs pretty well.

So yeah, its easy to see how its all Jax's fault, the Knicks world is an imperfect one - what else to do but blame the administration for the will of the basketball gods.

Idiots.

It's easy to see you're on the msg payroll because you always blame the players and never any management decision.

Re-signing Lin? Huh? That happened two years before Jackson arrived.

If Phil wanted to blow it up, maybe he should've moved Melo when he could've gotten something in return for him. It's funny how all the supposed worthless untradeable Knicks are still in the league and most of the guys Phil traded Tyson and Felton for are out of the league. Funny how you can trade almost anything if you're willing to take garbage in return.

Also, funny to blame Fisher who was handpicked by Jackson.

Blame annnnnyone but Jackson. It's cool. By the way that team of garbage parts that Phil had to give away for dog poop finished the season 14-6. No roster Phil has ever assembled here in the three years since then has ever won 14 out of 20 games at any point.

Yeah, I do lose track of how smoothly the Knicks functioned before Phil. Boy do we miss those days.

You know people like you dump on everyone wearing a knicks jersey and then whine as if we just traded Lebron for Noah. I was even good with what Isiah tried to do. It ended disastrously but he played a very limited set of options he was given and failed. I forgive him.

Running the Knicks is not easy and all you armchair GMs make it sound like child's play. Grow the F up. If you are looking for perfection given where we've been you will never be content even when we start winning.

Forgive Isiah? lol

Aren't you the same guy who has been going around proclaiming Dolan is a great owner?

I think this account is definitely Dolan himself or an MSG employee.

crzymdups @ 2/28/2017 12:19 AM
fwk00 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
fwk00 wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:This is what the reality looked like

Jackson inherits a Knicks' roster that doesn't have much flexibility in the near future.

With or without Anthony, the Knicks are expected to be over the salary cap this summer because of the contracts of Amar'e Stoudemire ($23.4 million), Tyson Chandler ($14.6 million) and Andrea Bargnani ($11.5 million), which run through 2014-15.

So Jackson probably will have to trade one of those three players if he wants to reshape the roster.

Oh, that's way too rosy a picture of what Jax inherited. There was Amare punching a fire hydrant. Then we had Felton caught up in a domestic dispute involving a firearm that kept Azzhola and Berman in prime time Knicks bashing mode. By now, Walsh was being thrown under the bus, wheelchair and all. And Chandler spent the season ringing up technical fouls for, well, just being an a-hole on the court just about every time he set foot on the court.

Yeah, the good old days when today's Jax bashers were convinced "there is no way Jax can trade Felton or Chandler. NO WAY. Our players suck compare to all the other players in the league". Yep. Jax should have been able to do some other magical thinking maneuvers to have gotten exactly the right players in return. Not that we weren't thrilled to actually have acquired two second round picks in a draft year when we had ZERO.

Oh, oh, let's NOT forget Fisher's contribution to dysfunction by getting cought up in an extramarital affair that played out as a public fist-fight. Let's blame Phil for something there too.

The fumes of Bargnani still permeated the rafters at MSG. And when we tried to resign Lin of course Houston twisted the knife in our backs pretty well.

So yeah, its easy to see how its all Jax's fault, the Knicks world is an imperfect one - what else to do but blame the administration for the will of the basketball gods.

Idiots.

It's easy to see you're on the msg payroll because you always blame the players and never any management decision.

Re-signing Lin? Huh? That happened two years before Jackson arrived.

If Phil wanted to blow it up, maybe he should've moved Melo when he could've gotten something in return for him. It's funny how all the supposed worthless untradeable Knicks are still in the league and most of the guys Phil traded Tyson and Felton for are out of the league. Funny how you can trade almost anything if you're willing to take garbage in return.

Also, funny to blame Fisher who was handpicked by Jackson.

Blame annnnnyone but Jackson. It's cool. By the way that team of garbage parts that Phil had to give away for dog poop finished the season 14-6. No roster Phil has ever assembled here in the three years since then has ever won 14 out of 20 games at any point.

Yeah, I do lose track of how smoothly the Knicks functioned before Phil. Boy do we miss those days.

You know people like you dump on everyone wearing a knicks jersey and then whine as if we just traded Lebron for Noah. I was even good with what Isiah tried to do. It ended disastrously but he played a very limited set of options he was given and failed. I forgive him.

Running the Knicks is not easy and all you armchair GMs make it sound like child's play. Grow the F up. If you are looking for perfection given where we've been you will never be content even when we start winning.

Find a post of me dumping on a Knicks player.

You're the one constantly blaming the players in all your posts. Guess what, when an organization cycles through over 120 players in 16 years and has one good season and continual dysfunction and constant terrible defense for eight or ten or however many different coaches... It ain't the players, it ain't the coaches - it's the organization. There's a lack of accountability from the very top and it trickles down and infests every level.

The Knicks will never be good til Dolan sells or moves on. And I will look forward to that day. And in the meantime, I'll gladly stay here to call BS on you blaming the players for this shit show.

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