Knicks · Hahn: Melo comment everyone sleep on (page 1)

EnySpree @ 2/28/2017 8:27 AM
http://www.msgnetworks.com/2017/02/25/kn...

"CARMELO ANTHONY WAS SO CONFIDENT THAT HE WOULD REMAIN A KNICK AFTER THURSDAY THAT HE NAPPED THROUGH THE 3 P.M. TRADE DEADLINE. WITH A NO-TRADE CLAUSE, HE HAD THE FINAL SAY ON ANYTHING AND, HE SAID, THERE WAS NOTHING TO CONSIDER."


The bottom line of the article

“Now they’ve got to get back to the drawing board and come up with another plan,” he said.

Interesting comment. He went on to say that there “wasn’t really anything kind of worth looking at, talking about or exploring” when it comes to trades that may have involved him.

So with that now in the rear view, Melo is right, the Knicks have to come up with another plan that involves him on the team. But the franchise knows that plan also has to involve developing Kristaps Porzingis and adding more young talent to the team to be ready to emerge when Melo’s time in New York ends.

franco12 @ 2/28/2017 8:35 AM
we need another plan?

Wow! We're so fucked!

Andrew @ 2/28/2017 8:59 AM
This is why I never felt badly about how Melo was being "treated". He acted like the rumors weighed heavy and he persevered, but in reality he had nothing to ever worry about because he had complete say in the matter.

Rebuild and let him decide how much winning really means to him.

nyk4ever @ 2/28/2017 9:01 AM
Andrew wrote:This is why I never felt badly about how Melo was being "treated". He acted like the rumors weighed heavy and he persevered, but in reality he had nothing to ever worry about because he had complete say in the matter.

Rebuild and let him decide how much winning really means to him.

couldn't agree more andrew

StarksEwing1 @ 2/28/2017 9:05 AM
Andrew wrote:This is why I never felt badly about how Melo was being "treated". He acted like the rumors weighed heavy and he persevered, but in reality he had nothing to ever worry about because he had complete say in the matter.

Rebuild and let him decide how much winning really means to him.

very true
BRIGGS @ 2/28/2017 9:11 AM
Keep Melo and forget about the trading stuff--it wasnt going to pan out. We can evaluate what is best for the Knicks and Melo's PT next year but certainly we should be able to get smarter production from him whether starting or as sixth man. His minutes should be brought back to Earth at 26-28 unless hes on fire.
crzymdups @ 2/28/2017 9:37 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Keep Melo and forget about the trading stuff--it wasnt going to pan out. We can evaluate what is best for the Knicks and Melo's PT next year but certainly we should be able to get smarter production from him whether starting or as sixth man. His minutes should be brought back to Earth at 26-28 unless hes on fire.

Yeah, I really don't get why people are so keen to trade him for fifty cents on the dollar. If he doesn't play in the team concept - take him out of the game. Otherwise, he's proven to be more durable and reliable than KP or almost any other star that's been here in years.

I would do a Melo trade if we could get one good player I wanted to move forward with at this point, or a first round pick or two. Until a deal like that is even possible, why trade him? He'll opt out next year anyway. I don't want to be locked into Austin Rivers.

fishmike @ 2/28/2017 9:46 AM
crzymdups wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Keep Melo and forget about the trading stuff--it wasnt going to pan out. We can evaluate what is best for the Knicks and Melo's PT next year but certainly we should be able to get smarter production from him whether starting or as sixth man. His minutes should be brought back to Earth at 26-28 unless hes on fire.

Yeah, I really don't get why people are so keen to trade him for fifty cents on the dollar. If he doesn't play in the team concept - take him out of the game. Otherwise, he's proven to be more durable and reliable than KP or almost any other star that's been here in years.

I would do a Melo trade if we could get one good player I wanted to move forward with at this point, or a first round pick or two. Until a deal like that is even possible, why trade him? He'll opt out next year anyway. I don't want to be locked into Austin Rivers.

because thinking like Briggs that he will take on a different role or be some productive 6th man is pure silliness. So long as he's here he's taking his 25 shots a night as he did last night. If you want to develop a frontcourt rotation of KP/Willy/KOQ with Noah mixed in there as well it means more of Melo at the SF or he takes those guys minutes at the 4. For me I would rather just move one. I dont see a ton of scenarios where winning games with Melo really helps our future.
Sambakick @ 2/28/2017 9:53 AM
nyk4ever wrote:
Andrew wrote:This is why I never felt badly about how Melo was being "treated". He acted like the rumors weighed heavy and he persevered, but in reality he had nothing to ever worry about because he had complete say in the matter.

Rebuild and let him decide how much winning really means to him.

couldn't agree more andrew

Sure he has the final say but he was asked about it every day in every city. That had to weigh on him.

SupremeCommander @ 2/28/2017 9:54 AM
fishmike wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Keep Melo and forget about the trading stuff--it wasnt going to pan out. We can evaluate what is best for the Knicks and Melo's PT next year but certainly we should be able to get smarter production from him whether starting or as sixth man. His minutes should be brought back to Earth at 26-28 unless hes on fire.

Yeah, I really don't get why people are so keen to trade him for fifty cents on the dollar. If he doesn't play in the team concept - take him out of the game. Otherwise, he's proven to be more durable and reliable than KP or almost any other star that's been here in years.

I would do a Melo trade if we could get one good player I wanted to move forward with at this point, or a first round pick or two. Until a deal like that is even possible, why trade him? He'll opt out next year anyway. I don't want to be locked into Austin Rivers.

because thinking like Briggs that he will take on a different role or be some productive 6th man is pure silliness. So long as he's here he's taking his 25 shots a night as he did last night. If you want to develop a frontcourt rotation of KP/Willy/KOQ with Noah mixed in there as well it means more of Melo at the SF or he takes those guys minutes at the 4. For me I would rather just move one. I dont see a ton of scenarios where winning games with Melo really helps our future.

26 shots... 9 of 26... 2 of 9 from 3...

EnySpree @ 2/28/2017 10:24 AM
Sambakick wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
Andrew wrote:This is why I never felt badly about how Melo was being "treated". He acted like the rumors weighed heavy and he persevered, but in reality he had nothing to ever worry about because he had complete say in the matter.

Rebuild and let him decide how much winning really means to him.

couldn't agree more andrew

Sure he has the final say but he was asked about it every day in every city. That had to weigh on him.

I hate my job but I have to put in the hours to support my family.... that's really weight on your shoulders. If I don't go to work and deal with all that bullshit I go through my family is screwed. Tell me how a 25 mill a year star whether he comes to work or nother that plays a game for a living has weight on his shoulders? Seriously man I don't want to hear it

meloshouldgo @ 2/28/2017 11:28 AM
fishmike wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Keep Melo and forget about the trading stuff--it wasnt going to pan out. We can evaluate what is best for the Knicks and Melo's PT next year but certainly we should be able to get smarter production from him whether starting or as sixth man. His minutes should be brought back to Earth at 26-28 unless hes on fire.

Yeah, I really don't get why people are so keen to trade him for fifty cents on the dollar. If he doesn't play in the team concept - take him out of the game. Otherwise, he's proven to be more durable and reliable than KP or almost any other star that's been here in years.

I would do a Melo trade if we could get one good player I wanted to move forward with at this point, or a first round pick or two. Until a deal like that is even possible, why trade him? He'll opt out next year anyway. I don't want to be locked into Austin Rivers.

because thinking like Briggs that he will take on a different role or be some productive 6th man is pure silliness. So long as he's here he's taking his 25 shots a night as he did last night. If you want to develop a frontcourt rotation of KP/Willy/KOQ with Noah mixed in there as well it means more of Melo at the SF or he takes those guys minutes at the 4. For me I would rather just move one. I dont see a ton of scenarios where winning games with Melo really helps our future.

Yeah, i would trade Melo if I could win the PowerBall too. But the market decides what Melo is worth not his own inflated self importance which you seem to share with him. Currently his market value is Austin Rivers in a market he created for himself.

knicks1248 @ 2/28/2017 11:41 AM
meloshouldgo wrote:
fishmike wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Keep Melo and forget about the trading stuff--it wasnt going to pan out. We can evaluate what is best for the Knicks and Melo's PT next year but certainly we should be able to get smarter production from him whether starting or as sixth man. His minutes should be brought back to Earth at 26-28 unless hes on fire.

Yeah, I really don't get why people are so keen to trade him for fifty cents on the dollar. If he doesn't play in the team concept - take him out of the game. Otherwise, he's proven to be more durable and reliable than KP or almost any other star that's been here in years.

I would do a Melo trade if we could get one good player I wanted to move forward with at this point, or a first round pick or two. Until a deal like that is even possible, why trade him? He'll opt out next year anyway. I don't want to be locked into Austin Rivers.

because thinking like Briggs that he will take on a different role or be some productive 6th man is pure silliness. So long as he's here he's taking his 25 shots a night as he did last night. If you want to develop a frontcourt rotation of KP/Willy/KOQ with Noah mixed in there as well it means more of Melo at the SF or he takes those guys minutes at the 4. For me I would rather just move one. I dont see a ton of scenarios where winning games with Melo really helps our future.

Yeah, i would trade Melo if I could win the PowerBall too. But the market decides what Melo is worth not his own inflated self impedance which you seem to share with him. Currently his market value is Austin Rivers in a market he created for himself.

meloshoulhgo

with a name like that, you lose every ounce of credibility when it comes to discussing melo.
It's like trying to convince Trump that he's going about the immigration thing all wrong..no winning in the argument

meloshouldgo @ 2/28/2017 11:49 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
fishmike wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Keep Melo and forget about the trading stuff--it wasnt going to pan out. We can evaluate what is best for the Knicks and Melo's PT next year but certainly we should be able to get smarter production from him whether starting or as sixth man. His minutes should be brought back to Earth at 26-28 unless hes on fire.

Yeah, I really don't get why people are so keen to trade him for fifty cents on the dollar. If he doesn't play in the team concept - take him out of the game. Otherwise, he's proven to be more durable and reliable than KP or almost any other star that's been here in years.

I would do a Melo trade if we could get one good player I wanted to move forward with at this point, or a first round pick or two. Until a deal like that is even possible, why trade him? He'll opt out next year anyway. I don't want to be locked into Austin Rivers.

because thinking like Briggs that he will take on a different role or be some productive 6th man is pure silliness. So long as he's here he's taking his 25 shots a night as he did last night. If you want to develop a frontcourt rotation of KP/Willy/KOQ with Noah mixed in there as well it means more of Melo at the SF or he takes those guys minutes at the 4. For me I would rather just move one. I dont see a ton of scenarios where winning games with Melo really helps our future.

Yeah, i would trade Melo if I could win the PowerBall too. But the market decides what Melo is worth not his own inflated self impedance which you seem to share with him. Currently his market value is Austin Rivers in a market he created for himself.

meloshoulhgo

with a name like that, you lose every ounce of credibility when it comes to discussing melo.
It's like trying to convince Trump that he's going about the immigration thing all wrong..no winning in the argument

Yeah I get that a lot. You have no adequate response to what I posted, so you come back trying to attack my screen handle. Grasping for straws would be stretch goal for you. Peace out girl scout.

Moonangie @ 2/28/2017 3:56 PM
Andrew wrote:This is why I never felt badly about how Melo was being "treated". He acted like the rumors weighed heavy and he persevered, but in reality he had nothing to ever worry about because he had complete say in the matter.

Rebuild and let him decide how much winning really means to him.

Hallelujah! Preach to the choir!

Vmart @ 2/28/2017 4:16 PM
I have a plan it's called ride the pine.
HofstraBBall @ 2/28/2017 5:13 PM
crzymdups wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Keep Melo and forget about the trading stuff--it wasnt going to pan out. We can evaluate what is best for the Knicks and Melo's PT next year but certainly we should be able to get smarter production from him whether starting or as sixth man. His minutes should be brought back to Earth at 26-28 unless hes on fire.

Yeah, I really don't get why people are so keen to trade him for fifty cents on the dollar. If he doesn't play in the team concept - take him out of the game. Otherwise, he's proven to be more durable and reliable than KP or almost any other star that's been here in years.

I would do a Melo trade if we could get one good player I wanted to move forward with at this point, or a first round pick or two. Until a deal like that is even possible, why trade him? He'll opt out next year anyway. I don't want to be locked into Austin Rivers.

This. Love the guys that say lets develop KO, Willy and Noah instead! Willy has a lot to prove. Noah is a gimp. And KP is helped by him being on court. Then they bring up the nights he puts up 25 shots. Leaving out his good nights and the fact he is shooting 44%. Not exactly the low 20's like they want you to believe. Still the best player on the team.

yellowboy90 @ 2/28/2017 5:26 PM
KP really needs time to heal. He started off great but has been terrible offensively since game 20.
CrushAlot @ 2/28/2017 5:41 PM
Didn't anyone watch the Sixers game? This interview was shown live. Here's the quote,
Carmelo Anthony said he doesn't understand management's vision for the future after the club's inactivity at Thursday's trade deadline.

"No, not now. No, to be honest with you," Anthony said late Thursday night. "I think they were kind of planning on the trade deadline, whether they were trying to make moves. I think that was one plan. Now they've got to get back to the drawing board and come up with another plan about the future of this team."


Here is the quote in regards to the trade deadline'
Anthony, who has a no-trade clause, added that he "anticipated" that the Knicks wouldn't put together a deal to trade him by the deadline.

"It wasn't really anything kind of worth looking at, talking about or exploring. So I kind of knew that over the past couple of days," Anthony said, adding that the Knicks never approached him with a formal trade. "We all kind of know what was going on out there, seeing what was worth talking about or bringing to the table. Obviously nothing was worth bringing to the table."]


http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18754...
In regards to the nap comment,
Carmelo Anthony not concerned about Thursday’s NBA trade deadline: Carmelo Anthony isn’t sweating out the NBA trade deadline. He said he’s relaxed and hopes to be enjoying his pregame nap at 3:01 p.m. Thursday — one minute after the deadline. -- Newsday

http://www.espn.com/blog/nba/post/_/id/3...
No one reacted at the time because all of these quotes were seen in the context of an interview. One on the Wednesday before the deadline after practice and the other after the deadline. Also, lets leave out the part about the Knicks never approaching him about a formal trade. Nothing to see here.
Sambakick @ 2/28/2017 6:31 PM
EnySpree wrote:
Sambakick wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
Andrew wrote:This is why I never felt badly about how Melo was being "treated". He acted like the rumors weighed heavy and he persevered, but in reality he had nothing to ever worry about because he had complete say in the matter.

Rebuild and let him decide how much winning really means to him.

couldn't agree more andrew

Sure he has the final say but he was asked about it every day in every city. That had to weigh on him.

I hate my job but I have to put in the hours to support my family.... that's really weight on your shoulders. If I don't go to work and deal with all that bullshit I go through my family is screwed. Tell me how a 25 mill a year star whether he comes to work or nother that plays a game for a living has weight on his shoulders? Seriously man I don't want to hear it

You aren't in the same spot. Nobody shoves their cameras and microphones in your face and asks you to defend your company's performance and ask you why things aren't better while every other person who works for your company gets to do their job away from the spotlight. You may not want to hear that there is a stress that comes with being the face of the franchise but that doesn't mean it does not exist.

By your logic Kurt Cobain should've never committed suicide cuz he was making good money and you hate your job.

meloshouldgo @ 2/28/2017 6:53 PM
Apparently Melo agrees nothing he can fetch in trade is worth bringing to the table.

Case closed

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