Just kidding. What a silly idea for a thread, right? To overreact to one game? To blame one guy for how the team plays? Crazy, right?
What I actually think is what me and some other posters have been saying for almost the whole year - you cannot put Melo at the 3 and KP at the 4 and expect them to win.
A guy like NDour looks a lot better next to Melo, and probably would next to KP as well. NDour was actually rebounding and closing out on three point shooters. KP struggles to do either. Melo struggles to close out on shooters.
Obviously, at this point in time we should move forward with KP... but I'm not sure he should start anywhere but center.
This is why I covet a guy like Josh Jackson (who we probably can't get now). I'd take a long look at Jonathan Isaac, too, to solve the same issue. He might be there at 6 or 7.
NDour should start every game the rest of the season, too.
crzymdups wrote:What I actually think is what me and some other posters have been saying for almost the whole year - you cannot put Melo at the 3 and KP at the 4 and expect them to win. A guy like NDour looks a lot better next to Melo, and probably would next to KP as well. NDour was actually rebounding and closing out on three point shooters. KP struggles to do either. Melo struggles to close out on shooters.
Obviously, at this point in time we should move forward with KP... but I'm not sure he should start anywhere but center.
This is why I covet a guy like Josh Jackson (who we probably can't get now). I'd take a long look at Jonathan Isaac, too, to solve the same issue. He might be there at 6 or 7.
NDour should start every game the rest of the season, too.
I missed the game....But I've always been a huge Ndour fan......And thought he's exactly what we are missing on this team, as far as defense and hustle......
Trade the premadonna's and feed the hungry! We have hungry role players like Ndour ready to impact our defense....Especially at the SF position. Next to Melo or KP.
Actually at 9-24 Melo looks exactly the same. This victory belongs to the kids. Give them some credit, be a bigger person than this wallowing in Melotoma. I still have hope for you. You are a great poster.
Nice. I agree about Melo at the 3 and KP at the 4. It doesn't work. NDour played really well next to Melo. Hopefully NDour gets a few more starts. NDour and Lance could fix a lt next year.
meloshouldgo wrote:Actually at 9-24 Melo looks exactly the same. This victory belongs to the kids. Give them some credit, be a bigger person than this wallowing in Melotoma. I aim have hope for you.
You already admitted in the game thread you didn't watch the game. Games are more than boxscores. The ball was moving, the team was defending, the Knicks were up by 20+.
Also, this thread was a joke, meloshouldgo. Just take a deep breath.
crzymdups wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:Actually at 9-24 Melo looks exactly the same. This victory belongs to the kids. Give them some credit, be a bigger person than this wallowing in Melotoma. I aim have hope for you.
You already admitted in the game thread you didn't watch the game. Games are more than boxscores. The ball was moving, the team was defending, the Knicks were up by 20+.
Also, this thread was a joke, meloshouldgo. Just take a deep breath.
Yes dear, I get the joke. But my breathing was disrupted by the win, not by the thread. I am still upset that we won.
meloshouldgo wrote:crzymdups wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:Actually at 9-24 Melo looks exactly the same. This victory belongs to the kids. Give them some credit, be a bigger person than this wallowing in Melotoma. I aim have hope for you.
You already admitted in the game thread you didn't watch the game. Games are more than boxscores. The ball was moving, the team was defending, the Knicks were up by 20+.
Also, this thread was a joke, meloshouldgo. Just take a deep breath.
Yes dear, I get the joke. But my breathing was disrupted by the win, not by the thread. I am still upset that we won.
So am I. I was upset by the win in Miami, too, but that didn't stop a bunch of other people here from posting threads about how great the defense was without Melo. I didn't notice you getting upset in those threads though.
blkexec wrote:crzymdups wrote:What I actually think is what me and some other posters have been saying for almost the whole year - you cannot put Melo at the 3 and KP at the 4 and expect them to win. A guy like NDour looks a lot better next to Melo, and probably would next to KP as well. NDour was actually rebounding and closing out on three point shooters. KP struggles to do either. Melo struggles to close out on shooters.
Obviously, at this point in time we should move forward with KP... but I'm not sure he should start anywhere but center.
This is why I covet a guy like Josh Jackson (who we probably can't get now). I'd take a long look at Jonathan Isaac, too, to solve the same issue. He might be there at 6 or 7.
NDour should start every game the rest of the season, too.
I missed the game....But I've always been a huge Ndour fan......And thought he's exactly what we are missing on this team, as far as defense and hustle......
Trade the premadonna's and feed the hungry! We have hungry role players like Ndour ready to impact our defense....Especially at the SF position. Next to Melo or KP.
I remember reading a few months ago how they were going to cut N'Dour but Gaines insisted to Phil that he should stay. Been a fan since his first SL appearance for the Knicks, hope he can keep this up.
GustavBahler wrote:blkexec wrote:crzymdups wrote:What I actually think is what me and some other posters have been saying for almost the whole year - you cannot put Melo at the 3 and KP at the 4 and expect them to win. A guy like NDour looks a lot better next to Melo, and probably would next to KP as well. NDour was actually rebounding and closing out on three point shooters. KP struggles to do either. Melo struggles to close out on shooters.
Obviously, at this point in time we should move forward with KP... but I'm not sure he should start anywhere but center.
This is why I covet a guy like Josh Jackson (who we probably can't get now). I'd take a long look at Jonathan Isaac, too, to solve the same issue. He might be there at 6 or 7.
NDour should start every game the rest of the season, too.
I missed the game....But I've always been a huge Ndour fan......And thought he's exactly what we are missing on this team, as far as defense and hustle......
Trade the premadonna's and feed the hungry! We have hungry role players like Ndour ready to impact our defense....Especially at the SF position. Next to Melo or KP.
I remember reading a few months ago how they were going to cut N'Dour but Gaines insisted to Phil that he should stay. Been a fan since his first SL appearance for the Knicks, hope he can keep this up.
I didn't know Gaines had to advocate for him to keep his roster spot. I also thought it was interesting that Breen said Kuz is the guy Hornacek always yells at.
crzymdups wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:crzymdups wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:Actually at 9-24 Melo looks exactly the same. This victory belongs to the kids. Give them some credit, be a bigger person than this wallowing in Melotoma. I aim have hope for you.
You already admitted in the game thread you didn't watch the game. Games are more than boxscores. The ball was moving, the team was defending, the Knicks were up by 20+.
Also, this thread was a joke, meloshouldgo. Just take a deep breath.
Yes dear, I get the joke. But my breathing was disrupted by the win, not by the thread. I am still upset that we won.
So am I. I was upset by the win in Miami, too, but that didn't stop a bunch of other people here from posting threads about how great the defense was without Melo. I didn't notice you getting upset in those threads though.
My bad, but don't misunderstand me. I am ok with the kids winning games but I am upset about us losing draft position. It's an awkward situation to be in. I definitely like it when they play good ball at both ends, but the timing hurts. As for Melo - I have no issues they played him, and he did shoot 9-24 so that's kind of what I have been saying for days. If we had Rose as well we probably would have lost this one. And you are right I didn't watch it, but can you honestly tell me the better ball movement was because of Melo with the rest of the team shooting lights out shouldn't he have chalked up more than two assists?
meloshouldgo wrote:crzymdups wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:crzymdups wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:Actually at 9-24 Melo looks exactly the same. This victory belongs to the kids. Give them some credit, be a bigger person than this wallowing in Melotoma. I aim have hope for you.
You already admitted in the game thread you didn't watch the game. Games are more than boxscores. The ball was moving, the team was defending, the Knicks were up by 20+.
Also, this thread was a joke, meloshouldgo. Just take a deep breath.
Yes dear, I get the joke. But my breathing was disrupted by the win, not by the thread. I am still upset that we won.
So am I. I was upset by the win in Miami, too, but that didn't stop a bunch of other people here from posting threads about how great the defense was without Melo. I didn't notice you getting upset in those threads though.
My bad, but don't misunderstand me. I am ok with the kids winning games but I am upset about us losing draft position. It's an awkward situation to be in. I definitely like it when they play good ball at both ends, but the timing hurts. As for Melo - I have no issues they played him, and he did shoot 9-24 so that's kind of what I have been saying for days. If we had Rose as well we probably would have lost this one. And you are right I didn't watch it, but can you honestly tell me the better ball movement was because of Melo with the rest of the team shooting lights out shouldn't he have chalked up more than two assists?
I think it was because the team was better positionally balanced on the floor. When KP and Melo are out there with a big man like Willy or KOQ - I think they are too big and clumsy, even though KP and Melo have range on their shot.
Melo definitely shot too much when he came back in in the 4th. I don't think Hornacek should've brought him in at the end. He took a ton of terrible shots. But in the first half and third quarter he played really well and moved the ball, though he did not get a ton of direct assists.
And, yes, at this point I'm ready to move on - like I said, I think we need to. Melo and KP cannot be on the floor at the same time for a playoffs team. I just don't see it. It's like trying to play Paul Millsap and Dirk Nowitzki at the 3/4. Good players... but terrible quickness, speed, D for the modern NBA on both ends of the floor.
crzymdups wrote:Just kidding. What a silly idea for a thread, right? To overreact to one game? To blame one guy for how the team plays? Crazy, right?
LMAO. Ha. Think we will see "Ndour should be a starter", "Trade KP for hign draft pick", "Willy over rated" threads today as well. I'm gearing up with ammo for next year to defend KP, Willy and who ever else the board starts to blame for losing. As Phil is off the table around here and Melo will be balling in LA.
N'Dour or Kuz should have been our starter SF the final 10 games of the season .. Melo and Rose should be DNP the final 10 games of the season for reason of their isolation n ball-stopper method has rubbed off on other teammates (KP/Willie/Lee) to have the Knicks playing .375 ball throughout the season.
KP are a question mark around the league by still shooting below 45% at 7.3 height, plus receiving 33 minute per game in his 2nd season and cant average a double-double every other game. I thought KP playing alongside of Noah in the 2016-17 season would boost the growth of KP talent in passing/screening/and boxing-out in the paint for rebounds n scoring, but Noah didnt bother to tutor teammate KP on anything throughout the season.
meloshouldgo wrote:Actually at 9-24 Melo looks exactly the same. This victory belongs to the kids. Give them some credit, be a bigger person than this wallowing in Melotoma. I still have hope for you. You are a great poster.
So true .. the kids showed more confidence in each other by letting 3 players touch the ball before shooting on offensive possession, plus the Knicks only had 2 ball-stoppers in the rotation (Melo's 9-25 n Lee 6-12).
I believe this was the first game of the season where the Knicks played pressure defense for all 4 quarters of the game.
