EnySpree wrote:I thought Phil was all the way realistic... fans were crying that he wasn't more transparent. He puts it all out there and fans are killing him for that. If Melo wants to play hardball and not waive his no trade clause, then the Knicks should Marbury his ass. Bench him and make him sit out until he lifts his no trade clause. The team comes before Melo. We don't bow down to no single player I dont care who it is. We are building with youth and that's it. If he starts an internal rif... then we send him home. We don't waive him. Treat him like the 15th man. We need to make a stand.... That's if Melo wants to play this game
They've been playing that game all year- Phil speaks, blast him, Phil doesn't speak, blast him for not speaking, Phil speaks, blast him for speaking- rinse and repeat.
Worst comes to worst, Phil and Melo will realize that if they cannot get separated, they will have to all just get along, sob on each other's shoulder, make up, and swear love and affection for each other forever (or at least for the next two years until both of their contracts expire).
I would not be averse to the Knicks making a run at a decent free agent PG (Holiday, Hill or Teague, though I disliked Teague in the opening Cle vs Indy playoff game), drafting a stud out of college, and going into another season with Melo in the lineup.
Any way you cut it, no team has ever benefited from losing its top scorer, especially if he scores over 20 points per game.
Woj reporting that so far Jax's public display has Anthony wanting to dig in and outlast Phil.
If the president of the Knicks was Joe Shmo. This wouldn't even be a issue. The reality is Phil took over garbage of a team. And add a couple of long term pieces. The rest is basically garbage for garbage trade.
Vmart wrote:If the president of the Knicks was Joe Shmo. This wouldn't even be a issue. The reality is Phil took over garbage of a team. And add a couple of long term pieces. The rest is basically garbage for garbage trade.
he also gave out a near max contract with a ntc and a huge trade kicker.
CrushAlot wrote:Woj reporting that so far Jax's public display has Anthony wanting to dig in and outlast Phil.
What happens when Hornecek starts giving him DNP's
wargames wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Woj reporting that so far Jax's public display has Anthony wanting to dig in and outlast Phil.
What happens when Hornecek starts giving him DNP's
not sure. Managements anti Melo stance and pro triangle stance certainly isn't going well.
CrushAlot wrote:wargames wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Woj reporting that so far Jax's public display has Anthony wanting to dig in and outlast Phil.
What happens when Hornecek starts giving him DNP's
not sure. Managements anti Melo stance and pro triangle stance certainly isn't going well.
Its going very well.
More drama, more attention, more press, more entertainment, more $$$.
They have to find a way to make money on declining losing Melo and they sure did found the way.
NY fans are great, they are a huge help for Dolan to biff up his pockets without having any good product.
Genius!!!
nyknickzingis wrote:Melo is done in NY.
He already gave his list to the Knicks before the deadline.
Don't believe what these guys say infront of the camera.The Knicks know he'll accept a trade to Clippers/Cavs maybe another team. They will only negotiate with those teams. 3 way trade is very possible.
KP is also done with NY. You will see.
CrushAlot wrote:Woj reporting that so far Jax's public display has Anthony wanting to dig in and outlast Phil.
If only he put that level of determination into playing defense. He's beyond pathetic
HofstraBBall wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:Melo is done in NY.
He already gave his list to the Knicks before the deadline.
Don't believe what these guys say infront of the camera.The Knicks know he'll accept a trade to Clippers/Cavs maybe another team. They will only negotiate with those teams. 3 way trade is very possible.
KP is also done with NY. You will see.
Isn't this a bit over the top and premature? KP may be upset but "done with NY"? I think that's a bit too much. KP and Phil will talk and things will calm down.
Let him sit - Melo off the bench will find a way to hoist 15 jump shots in 20 minutes. If his pride is so hurt he and his brand can go elsewhere and our "kids" can learn to play hoops and still lose 31 without Melo.
I agree enyspree. Sit his ample butt down and let him and his brand stew. The players have all become too big and filled with self import. If Phil can't run the show, then give the Keys to Isola and Melo and let them run it
arkrud wrote:CrushAlot wrote:wargames wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Woj reporting that so far Jax's public display has Anthony wanting to dig in and outlast Phil.
What happens when Hornecek starts giving him DNP's
not sure. Managements anti Melo stance and pro triangle stance certainly isn't going well.
Its going very well.
More drama, more attention, more press, more entertainment, more $$$.
They have to find a way to make money on declining losing Melo and they sure did found the way.
NY fans are great, they are a huge help for Dolan to biff up his pockets without having any good product.
Genius!!!
The only people who make money from this is the media
Paris907 wrote:Let him sit - Melo off the bench will find a way to hoist 15 jump shots in 20 minutes. If his pride is so hurt he and his brand can go elsewhere and our "kids" can learn to play hoops and still lose 31 without Melo.
Melo is poisoning the minds of the young core like KP so to me sitting him is not an option. He cannot come back. Trade him or waive him.
EnySpree wrote:I thought Phil was all the way realistic... fans were crying that he wasn't more transparent. He puts it all out there and fans are killing him for that. If Melo wants to play hardball and not waive his no trade clause, then the Knicks should Marbury his ass. Bench him and make him sit out until he lifts his no trade clause. The team comes before Melo. We don't bow down to no single player I dont care who it is. We are building with youth and that's it. If he starts an internal rif... then we send him home. We don't waive him. Treat him like the 15th man. We need to make a stand.... That's if Melo wants to play this game
Or we could let him play for the D-league team 
Vmart wrote:If the president of the Knicks was Joe Shmo. This wouldn't even be a issue. The reality is Phil took over garbage of a team. And add a couple of long term pieces. The rest is basically garbage for garbage trade.
Pat Riley also took over a garbage Miami team, but turned it into a perrennial force to be reckoned within a couple of years.
CrushAlot wrote:wargames wrote:So Melo wrote #staymelo on his instagram reply to Phil Jackson.Basically I wanted to ask everyone's opinion of what happens if Melo refuses to waive the NTC? Do they bench him, cut him, severely limit his minutes. Like what are the options if he decides he doesn't care being on a rebuild team to end his career?
I think that could be really interesting. AT what point does the nba get involved with the KNicks again in regards to management and ownership. Phil and Dolan are such an embarassment. I was hoping something would happen with the Oakley incident. Phil is the new worst exec in the league that works for the Knicks and has more job security than anyone in the nba. The knicks have had that guy before and it always sucks.
Why is Phil and embarrassment? He says the truth about his "star" player. Give me a break! The guy is paid $$25M per year. Stop bitching and play the damn game! He has the lowest BBall IQ on the team. He does not play defense and he stops motion on offense. Yes he can score at times but never when the team needs it.
Sorry, I will go with Phil over Melo any day of the week. Phil has won. Melo has not taken a team past the 2nd round ever!
CrushAlot wrote:Woj reporting that so far Jax's public display has Anthony wanting to dig in and outlast Phil.
They each have 2 years left, so that wouldn't work would it?
If he stays, Cut him. Addition by Subtraction.
