Knicks · KP's Final Performances Give No Signs Of Turmoil (page 2)

I just wish he never had been exposed to Melo these past two years. I couldn't think of a worse influence on a young developing player than Carmelo. Terrible work-ethic, terrible attitude, and terrible leadership. If i were the Knicks i would have tried to keep Melo and KP separated all year.

Skipping the exit interview was KP's way of saying "The ship be sinking". I would rather he let his feelings known about the direction of the team now, not 2 years from now when there probably isn't time to do anything about it. That is if KP lasts the summer in NY. Really hard to gauge where this will lead.

For better or worse, its a player's league now, with a very player friendly commish. Player's today have more clout than they ever had, and they're using it. At least the problems with this franchise have been put front and center.

omg, so many theories already, i think it is smarter to wait for KP and Knicks comments on this situation, all this is based on one "trusted" leak for media

http://nypost.com/2017/04/16/kristaps-po...

Interesting....

GustavBahler wrote:Skipping the exit interview was KP's way of saying "The ship be sinking". I would rather he let his feelings known about the direction of the team now, not 2 years from now when there probably isn't time to do anything about it. That is if KP lasts the summer in NY. Really hard to gauge where this will lead.

For better or worse, its a player's league now, with a very player friendly commish. Player's today have more clout than they ever had, and they're using it. At least the problems with this franchise have been put front and center.

I don't equate KP's skipping the Exit Meeting with a "Ship Be Sinking" type of statement. KP already knows the team has a lot of young players and that they're going to draft some more. He also knows Melo is not wanted by Phil anymore. I think that is the biggest issue. Aside from not doing the meeting we don't have any definitive statement from KP about why he did it and what his views are.

KP is a still developing player and hasn't yet achieved anything lasting in terms of his game. He's not really in a position of Power. What he did was insubordinate unless Phil gave him permission to skip it. We really don't know anything from Phil or KP about what happened. KP has no choice but to eventually speak to Phil about this and continue on with his career.

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Skipping the exit interview was KP's way of saying "The ship be sinking". I would rather he let his feelings known about the direction of the team now, not 2 years from now when there probably isn't time to do anything about it. That is if KP lasts the summer in NY. Really hard to gauge where this will lead.

For better or worse, its a player's league now, with a very player friendly commish. Player's today have more clout than they ever had, and they're using it. At least the problems with this franchise have been put front and center.

I don't equate KP's skipping the Exit Meeting with a "Ship Be Sinking" type of statement. KP already knows the team has a lot of young players and that they're going to draft some more. He also knows Melo is not wanted by Phil anymore. I think that is the biggest issue. Aside from not doing the meeting we don't have any definitive statement from KP about why he did it and what his views are.

KP is a still developing player and hasn't yet achieved anything lasting in terms of his game. He's not really in a position of Power. What he did was insubordinate unless Phil gave him permission to skip it. We really don't know anything from Phil or KP about what happened. KP has no choice but to eventually speak to Phil about this and continue on with his career.

Last time I checked Melo went to his exit interview. If KP was really trying to emulate Anthony, he would have showed up. There are too many things going on besides Melo on the Knicks to take it as having to do exclusively with him. He has spoken of the dysfunction from "top to bottom", long before this meeting. Thats also another way of saying "the ship be sinking".

GustavBahler wrote:

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Skipping the exit interview was KP's way of saying "The ship be sinking". I would rather he let his feelings known about the direction of the team now, not 2 years from now when there probably isn't time to do anything about it. That is if KP lasts the summer in NY. Really hard to gauge where this will lead.

For better or worse, its a player's league now, with a very player friendly commish. Player's today have more clout than they ever had, and they're using it. At least the problems with this franchise have been put front and center.

I don't equate KP's skipping the Exit Meeting with a "Ship Be Sinking" type of statement. KP already knows the team has a lot of young players and that they're going to draft some more. He also knows Melo is not wanted by Phil anymore. I think that is the biggest issue. Aside from not doing the meeting we don't have any definitive statement from KP about why he did it and what his views are.

KP is a still developing player and hasn't yet achieved anything lasting in terms of his game. He's not really in a position of Power. What he did was insubordinate unless Phil gave him permission to skip it. We really don't know anything from Phil or KP about what happened. KP has no choice but to eventually speak to Phil about this and continue on with his career.

Last time I checked Melo went to his exit interview. If KP was really trying to emulate Anthony, he would have showed up. There are too many things going on besides Melo on the Knicks to take it as having to do exclusively with him. He has spoken of the dysfunction from "top to bottom", long before this meeting. Thats also another way of saying "the ship be sinking".

KP wasn't saying that in the way you're trying to make it sound. The Media ran with that but when you read the full statement in context it's clear he didn't mean it that way!

As I've pointed out in this thread there wasn't any dysfunction as the season wound down. KP and the kids played well and together. This would make more sense if KP struggled and the kids didn't play with heart but they did!!!

So IMO this ain't about the Triangle or any coaching thing. This seems to be about Melo and Phil. I can't guarantee that this is the case but from what I've seen it's a logical conclusion. For all we know KP has already spoken to Phil.

He was playing well in the Triangle. No doubt about it, the offense suits him. Gets him more touches closer to the basket, higher percentage looks.

This isn't about the Triangle, it's about all the losing, drama, his own injuries and coaching changes. He's frustrated at it all and wanted to rush back to start working. Didn't want to waste time hanging around a situation he was frustrated with. Very unprofessional of him, and not acceptable. Knicks should charge a hefty fine.

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Skipping the exit interview was KP's way of saying "The ship be sinking". I would rather he let his feelings known about the direction of the team now, not 2 years from now when there probably isn't time to do anything about it. That is if KP lasts the summer in NY. Really hard to gauge where this will lead.

For better or worse, its a player's league now, with a very player friendly commish. Player's today have more clout than they ever had, and they're using it. At least the problems with this franchise have been put front and center.

I don't equate KP's skipping the Exit Meeting with a "Ship Be Sinking" type of statement. KP already knows the team has a lot of young players and that they're going to draft some more. He also knows Melo is not wanted by Phil anymore. I think that is the biggest issue. Aside from not doing the meeting we don't have any definitive statement from KP about why he did it and what his views are.

KP is a still developing player and hasn't yet achieved anything lasting in terms of his game. He's not really in a position of Power. What he did was insubordinate unless Phil gave him permission to skip it. We really don't know anything from Phil or KP about what happened. KP has no choice but to eventually speak to Phil about this and continue on with his career.

Last time I checked Melo went to his exit interview. If KP was really trying to emulate Anthony, he would have showed up. There are too many things going on besides Melo on the Knicks to take it as having to do exclusively with him. He has spoken of the dysfunction from "top to bottom", long before this meeting. Thats also another way of saying "the ship be sinking".

KP wasn't saying that in the way you're trying to make it sound. The Media ran with that but when you read the full statement in context it's clear he didn't mean it that way!

As I've pointed out in this thread there wasn't any dysfunction as the season wound down. KP and the kids played well and together. This would make more sense if KP struggled and the kids didn't play with heart but they did!!!

So IMO this ain't about the Triangle or any coaching thing. This seems to be about Melo and Phil. I can't guarantee that this is the case but from what I've seen it's a logical conclusion. For all we know KP has already spoken to Phil.

In the same interview he also said that he wasn't having fun playing basketball. He also reportedly doesn't like Rambis as the head guy. He was unhappy back in February and voiced it. What makes you think he was happy at the end of the season? He skipped his exit interview.

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Skipping the exit interview was KP's way of saying "The ship be sinking". I would rather he let his feelings known about the direction of the team now, not 2 years from now when there probably isn't time to do anything about it. That is if KP lasts the summer in NY. Really hard to gauge where this will lead.

For better or worse, its a player's league now, with a very player friendly commish. Player's today have more clout than they ever had, and they're using it. At least the problems with this franchise have been put front and center.

I don't equate KP's skipping the Exit Meeting with a "Ship Be Sinking" type of statement. KP already knows the team has a lot of young players and that they're going to draft some more. He also knows Melo is not wanted by Phil anymore. I think that is the biggest issue. Aside from not doing the meeting we don't have any definitive statement from KP about why he did it and what his views are.

KP is a still developing player and hasn't yet achieved anything lasting in terms of his game. He's not really in a position of Power. What he did was insubordinate unless Phil gave him permission to skip it. We really don't know anything from Phil or KP about what happened. KP has no choice but to eventually speak to Phil about this and continue on with his career.

Last time I checked Melo went to his exit interview. If KP was really trying to emulate Anthony, he would have showed up. There are too many things going on besides Melo on the Knicks to take it as having to do exclusively with him. He has spoken of the dysfunction from "top to bottom", long before this meeting. Thats also another way of saying "the ship be sinking".

KP wasn't saying that in the way you're trying to make it sound. The Media ran with that but when you read the full statement in context it's clear he didn't mean it that way!

As I've pointed out in this thread there wasn't any dysfunction as the season wound down. KP and the kids played well and together. This would make more sense if KP struggled and the kids didn't play with heart but they did!!!

So IMO this ain't about the Triangle or any coaching thing. This seems to be about Melo and Phil. I can't guarantee that this is the case but from what I've seen it's a logical conclusion. For all we know KP has already spoken to Phil.

In the same interview he also said that he wasn't having fun playing basketball. He also reportedly doesn't like Rambis as the head guy. He was unhappy back in February and voiced it. What makes you think he was happy at the end of the season? He skipped his exit interview.

This is why I posted the games!!! Go watch what KP did before he tweaked his back and make the case he was mad about the team going with more Triangle and Woj is saying. It's just not believable!!!

What is believable is KP spending time with Melo and hearing Melo's side of things. KP is closer to his teammates than Phil and I believe Melo poisoned KP's mind towards Phil. This ain't about the move back to more Triangle as Woj and the Media are claiming. This is about Melo and Phil.

Now I do believe that Rambis is not loved among the players. I believe KP isn't fond of Rose. I believe KP is frustrated by nagging minor injuries. I believe KP is not happy about losing. But I don't believe there was an open rebellion among all the players. I think a few Vets were the source of the resistance to the Triangle and not the younger players.