Knicks · Wacky Draft Plan (page 2)

STARTERS
PG: Frank Ntilikina
SG: Victor Oladipo (Melo + Courtney Lee Trade to LAC; OKC gets Austin Rivers and JJ Redick from LAC)
SF: Josh Jackson
PF: Juan Hernangomez (for Kyle O'Quinn, Mindaugas Kuzminskaus and TORs 23rd pick)
C: Willy Hernangomez
ROTATION
G: Terry Rozier III
G: Jamal Crawford (Melo+Courtney Lee trade)
G: Ron Baker
F: Jonathan Isaac
C: Joakim Noah
BENCH
G:Jarrett Jack (via free agency)
F: DeMarre Carroll (acquired using cap space for 23rd pick to send to DEN in Hernangomez trade)
F: Maurice Ndour
F: Lou Amundson (via free agency)
C: Marshall Plumlee
ASSETS:
2018 First Round Pick Swap with BKN (via BOS)
2019 First Round Pick Swap with LAC (via Melo deal)
2020 First Round Pick Swap with LAC (via Melo deal)

The aforementioned team would be super-long, super-versatile and have a great mix of aspiring youth and hardnosed veterans. We'd almost be able to switch everything on defense with the guys in our rotation and on the offensive end: space the floor, move without the basketball and let the triangle create our opportunities like Phil intends. I just think we'd have a great lockerroom that could grow from all the losing. I also like that a good bit of the youth we'd be banking on have an international flare and background playing professionally overseas (i.e. Frank Ntilikina, Willy and Juan Hernangomez) or have some veteran experience (i.e. Victor Oladipo and Terry Rozier III) which would suggest they are mature enough to partake in the nightlife of New York responsibily but stay on their grind to continually improve.

I also like that if we fall flat on our face with these guys, we still have the possibility of gaining lottery picks without having to suffer through all the losing that comes with it because of the pick swaps from now until 2020 (thanks to BKN and LAC).

ekstarks94 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:Let's trade KP, LMFAO. I know it sounds ridiculous but a number of people have made great points concerning KP's long-term health. The reality is that 7'fters do not have a great track record of health in this league, so putting the burden of an inept franchise squarely on the shoulders of one is not a good idea. That being said, here is this four team trade:

BOS Trade: No.1 overall pick, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier and a 2018 pick swap (BKN pick; to NYK)
BOS Receive Kristaps Porzingis, 44th pick, 58th pick, a $2 million trade exception

PHI Trade: 3rd overall pick, 36th pick and 39th
PHI Receive: no.8 overall pick (Malik Monk), 44th pick, 58th pick and Jaylen Brown

SAC Trade: 5th and 10th pick
SAC Receive: no.1 overall pick, 36th pick and 39th pick

NYK Trade: Kristaps Porzingis
NYK Receive: Terry Rozier, 3rd pick (Josh Jackson), 5th pick (Jonathan Isaac) and 10th pick (Frank Ntilikina), with control of a 2018 BKN pick swap (via BOS)

The Celtics do it because they get a young star player that they can build their franchise around. KP fits a position of need for the Celtics, which is a huge plus and also offers much needed height on both ends of the floor. Save Giannias Antetokounmpo or Draymond Green, I don't think there is a better fit at the 4-5 spot with KP than Al Horford and see nothing but good things with that pairing.

Sixers do it to accelerate their rebuilding process with two swingmen that fit a position of need for them. The no.3 pick figures to be huge in this draft but with the depth still available at the 8 spot and Jaylen Brown's talents, I think they'd be inclined to roll-the-dice, especially since Bryan Colangelo has had a horrible track record recently in the draft (aka the man that gave us Andrea Bargnani with a no.1 overall pick).

Kings do the deal because they are stupid....and need the flare that comes with having a no.1 overall pick. A Markelle Fultz might not be a superstar-in-the-making but I think he is the only player (other than Tatum) who seems skilled enough to be a consummate NBA starter for years to come, even if they don't improve. That quality should make the pick that much more appealing to the Kings who routinely destroy blue chip talent.

We do the deal to hedge on the potential health risks of KP and to accelerate our own rebuilding process. With KP, goes any identity we may have developed as a franchise but you'd have to figure that at least one of those three lottery picks would work at. And as I suggested earlier, I'd go with Josh Jackson, Jonathan Isaac and Frank Ntilikina with those picks. I think I'd even try to trade Willy Hernangomez to the Nuggets for their 13th pick, to get an all-time record of 4 lottery picks in one draft. I'd gamble on slme high-risk/high-reward player like Terrence Ferguson or Frank Jackson at this spot; plus have the added benefit of uniting the Hernangomez brothers.

Proposed this then the xbox froze on u right!!!!

NardDogNation wrote:My beautiful, dark, twisted fantasy for next season....

STARTERS
PG: Frank Ntilikina
SG: Victor Oladipo (Melo + Courtney Lee Trade to LAC; OKC gets Austin Rivers and JJ Redick from LAC)
SF: Josh Jackson
PF: Juan Hernangomez (for Kyle O'Quinn, Mindaugas Kuzminskaus and TORs 23rd pick)
C: Willy Hernangomez
ROTATION
G: Terry Rozier III
G: Jamal Crawford (Melo+Courtney Lee trade)
G: Ron Baker
F: Jonathan Isaac
C: Joakim Noah
BENCH
G:Jarrett Jack (via free agency)
F: DeMarre Carroll (acquired using cap space for 23rd pick to send to DEN in Hernangomez trade)
F: Maurice Ndour
F: Lou Amundson (via free agency)
C: Marshall Plumlee
ASSETS:
2018 First Round Pick Swap with BKN (via BOS)
2019 First Round Pick Swap with LAC (via Melo deal)
2020 First Round Pick Swap with LAC (via Melo deal)

The aforementioned team would be super-long, super-versatile and have a great mix of aspiring youth and hardnosed veterans. We'd almost be able to switch everything on defense with the guys in our rotation and on the offensive end: space the floor, move without the basketball and let the triangle create our opportunities like Phil intends. I just think we'd have a great lockerroom that could grow from all the losing. I also like that a good bit of the youth we'd be banking on have an international flare and background playing professionally overseas (i.e. Frank Ntilikina, Willy and Juan Hernangomez) or have some veteran experience (i.e. Victor Oladipo and Terry Rozier III) which would suggest they are mature enough to partake in the nightlife of New York responsibily but stay on their grind to continually improve.

I also like that if we fall flat on our face with these guys, we still have the possibility of gaining lottery picks without having to suffer through all the losing that comes with it because of the pick swaps from now until 2020 (thanks to BKN and LAC).

looks like a 17-win 76ers lineup

Cartman718 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:My beautiful, dark, twisted fantasy for next season....

STARTERS
PG: Frank Ntilikina
SG: Victor Oladipo (Melo + Courtney Lee Trade to LAC; OKC gets Austin Rivers and JJ Redick from LAC)
SF: Josh Jackson
PF: Juan Hernangomez (for Kyle O'Quinn, Mindaugas Kuzminskaus and TORs 23rd pick)
C: Willy Hernangomez
ROTATION
G: Terry Rozier III
G: Jamal Crawford (Melo+Courtney Lee trade)
G: Ron Baker
F: Jonathan Isaac
C: Joakim Noah
BENCH
G:Jarrett Jack (via free agency)
F: DeMarre Carroll (acquired using cap space for 23rd pick to send to DEN in Hernangomez trade)
F: Maurice Ndour
F: Lou Amundson (via free agency)
C: Marshall Plumlee
ASSETS:
2018 First Round Pick Swap with BKN (via BOS)
2019 First Round Pick Swap with LAC (via Melo deal)
2020 First Round Pick Swap with LAC (via Melo deal)

The aforementioned team would be super-long, super-versatile and have a great mix of aspiring youth and hardnosed veterans. We'd almost be able to switch everything on defense with the guys in our rotation and on the offensive end: space the floor, move without the basketball and let the triangle create our opportunities like Phil intends. I just think we'd have a great lockerroom that could grow from all the losing. I also like that a good bit of the youth we'd be banking on have an international flare and background playing professionally overseas (i.e. Frank Ntilikina, Willy and Juan Hernangomez) or have some veteran experience (i.e. Victor Oladipo and Terry Rozier III) which would suggest they are mature enough to partake in the nightlife of New York responsibily but stay on their grind to continually improve.

I also like that if we fall flat on our face with these guys, we still have the possibility of gaining lottery picks without having to suffer through all the losing that comes with it because of the pick swaps from now until 2020 (thanks to BKN and LAC).

looks like a 17-win 76ers lineup

The Sixers never had that many players with this type of upside on one roster but in any case...17 wins would be the point! We'd be rebuilding!

And IMO, our current roster sans Melo would be no better.

NardDogNation wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:My beautiful, dark, twisted fantasy for next season....

STARTERS
PG: Frank Ntilikina
SG: Victor Oladipo (Melo + Courtney Lee Trade to LAC; OKC gets Austin Rivers and JJ Redick from LAC)
SF: Josh Jackson
PF: Juan Hernangomez (for Kyle O'Quinn, Mindaugas Kuzminskaus and TORs 23rd pick)
C: Willy Hernangomez
ROTATION
G: Terry Rozier III
G: Jamal Crawford (Melo+Courtney Lee trade)
G: Ron Baker
F: Jonathan Isaac
C: Joakim Noah
BENCH
G:Jarrett Jack (via free agency)
F: DeMarre Carroll (acquired using cap space for 23rd pick to send to DEN in Hernangomez trade)
F: Maurice Ndour
F: Lou Amundson (via free agency)
C: Marshall Plumlee
ASSETS:
2018 First Round Pick Swap with BKN (via BOS)
2019 First Round Pick Swap with LAC (via Melo deal)
2020 First Round Pick Swap with LAC (via Melo deal)

The aforementioned team would be super-long, super-versatile and have a great mix of aspiring youth and hardnosed veterans. We'd almost be able to switch everything on defense with the guys in our rotation and on the offensive end: space the floor, move without the basketball and let the triangle create our opportunities like Phil intends. I just think we'd have a great lockerroom that could grow from all the losing. I also like that a good bit of the youth we'd be banking on have an international flare and background playing professionally overseas (i.e. Frank Ntilikina, Willy and Juan Hernangomez) or have some veteran experience (i.e. Victor Oladipo and Terry Rozier III) which would suggest they are mature enough to partake in the nightlife of New York responsibily but stay on their grind to continually improve.

I also like that if we fall flat on our face with these guys, we still have the possibility of gaining lottery picks without having to suffer through all the losing that comes with it because of the pick swaps from now until 2020 (thanks to BKN and LAC).

looks like a 17-win 76ers lineup

The Sixers never had that many players with this type of upside on one roster but in any case...17 wins would be the point! We'd be rebuilding!

And IMO, our current roster sans Melo would be no better.

Sans Melo, KP at least has the opportunity to develop his killer instinct.