Knicks · The case for Markelle Fultz (page 2)

dacash @ 5/31/2017 5:55 PM
wow!!!! is the real or is this kid on the sauce lol
guns jacked right up

http://www.stack.com/a/potential-no-1-nba-draft-pick-markelle-fultz-looks-completely-jacked-in-recent-photo

franco12 @ 5/31/2017 6:40 PM
dacash wrote:wow!!!! is the real or is this kid on the sauce lol
guns jacked right up

http://www.stack.com/a/potential-no-1-nba-draft-pick-markelle-fultz-looks-completely-jacked-in-recent-photo

I doubt the Celts would trade the pick for KP straight up - you might have to include our pick, KP for him!

NardDogNation @ 6/8/2017 9:26 PM
Would the draft rights to Jonathan Isaac and Kyle O'Quinn before enough to get Markelle Fultz at no.1?
BigRedDog @ 6/9/2017 12:36 AM
NardDogNation wrote:Would the draft rights to Jonathan Isaac and Kyle O'Quinn before enough to get Markelle Fultz at no.1?

Our 8th pick (Issac) and Oquinn for Fultz? You are kidding, right??

franco12 @ 6/9/2017 7:41 AM
BigRedDog wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:Would the draft rights to Jonathan Isaac and Kyle O'Quinn before enough to get Markelle Fultz at no.1?

Our 8th pick (Issac) and Oquinn for Fultz? You are kidding, right??

I honestly think to get the 1st pick, we'd probably need to package KP & our 1st (#8) and possibly more.

NardDogNation @ 6/9/2017 7:42 AM
franco12 wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:Would the draft rights to Jonathan Isaac and Kyle O'Quinn before enough to get Markelle Fultz at no.1?

Our 8th pick (Issac) and Oquinn for Fultz? You are kidding, right??

I honestly think to get the 1st pick, we'd probably need to package KP & our 1st (#8) and possibly more.

Why? What has Fultz proven that makes him more valuable than KP?

franco12 @ 6/9/2017 9:02 AM
NardDogNation wrote:
franco12 wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:Would the draft rights to Jonathan Isaac and Kyle O'Quinn before enough to get Markelle Fultz at no.1?

Our 8th pick (Issac) and Oquinn for Fultz? You are kidding, right??

I honestly think to get the 1st pick, we'd probably need to package KP & our 1st (#8) and possibly more.

Why? What has Fultz proven that makes him more valuable than KP?

I'm saying that is the value- that is probably what the Celts would ask for to swap the first round pick. I'm not saying it would be a good deal - it could if Fultz turns into a player on par with Michael Jordan, Lebron James, et al.

I'd consider making that deal myself simply because the NBA has changed, and I- ME, in my Opinion-think a dynamic wing player can have a greater impact on the success of an NBA franchise than a really good big.

NardDogNation @ 6/9/2017 9:30 AM
franco12 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
franco12 wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:Would the draft rights to Jonathan Isaac and Kyle O'Quinn before enough to get Markelle Fultz at no.1?

Our 8th pick (Issac) and Oquinn for Fultz? You are kidding, right??

I honestly think to get the 1st pick, we'd probably need to package KP & our 1st (#8) and possibly more.

Why? What has Fultz proven that makes him more valuable than KP?

I'm saying that is the value- that is probably what the Celts would ask for to swap the first round pick. I'm not saying it would be a good deal - it could if Fultz turns into a player on par with Michael Jordan, Lebron James, et al.

I'd consider making that deal myself simply because the NBA has changed, and I- ME, in my Opinion-think a dynamic wing player can have a greater impact on the success of an NBA franchise than a really good big.

A guard's team success is contingent on a big man's ability to space the floor, his aptness in the pick-and-roll and his ability to anchor the defense. Porzingis is one of only a handful of big men that could be elite by those measures. Meanwhile "elite" guards have been picked everywhere in the draft: Isiah Thomas was the 60th pick in his, Steph Curry was 7th, Kyle Lowry 24th, etc. Yes, you'll need very good backcourt players to win in this league but you can just as easily stumble into that. It is far harder to stumble into the big man that will make you elite.

And KP is a proven blue chip talent. Guys like Fultz are still unknown quantities despite their potential. Then when you factor in the Celtics' ability to win-now, their strength in the backcourt and their relative weakness at the 4 spot, I think they would definitely make the deal for KP straight-up.

Allanfan20 @ 6/9/2017 9:32 AM
Trade a legit big man who has a serious skill set (albeit he still has a long way to go) for an unproven combo guard... which combo guards alone don't guarantee team success. I am going to pass on that one even if Fultz is the number 1 pick. He would basically have to be as good as Westbrook in order for me to be interested.
fishmike @ 6/9/2017 9:38 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
No center is valuable as a guard in this NBA, we should trade him. Ive never seen a 2nd year player pull a punk move like Porzingis
Knixkik wrote:
franco12 wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:I also agree a great point guard or guard right now in today's league is more valuable than a great unicorn. As special a talent as KP is, if Fultz is Westbrook level good then you make that trade. However I don't think Fultz is that good. I think he's more like Irving good. I would not trade KP at 21 years of age for a draft pick as good as Irving. I'd trade him for a MVP level talent, which I know is hard to predict, but it would be what I'd want.

I don't know - but Kyrie is pretty good and I might trade KP straight up for him.

Really? KP can be a game-changer at the center position for years to come. Someone you can build around on both ends and impossible to matchup with. Kyrie is a terrible defensive player and not really a franchise guy on offense either.

LOL! Your knee jerks any harder your gonna lose teeth.

KP is better than Fultz. Pass.

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