Knicks · Acquiring Blazers 20th Pick and drafting Terrance Ferguson... (page 1)

If we are able to acquire one of the 1st round picks that the Blazers are supposedly shopping, Terrance Ferguson is projected to fall in this range, and I think he would be an absolute steal here.

Let's say we draft a point guard with the 8th pick, by acquiring the extra pick and drafting Ferguson, we would set up our backcourt for the future in one draft.

Ferguson is the man forgotten because he decided to play overseas in Australia and has remained somewhat obscure. But make no mistake about it, he was a top 20 national recruit out of high school with his combination of athleticism and shooting. He stands at 6'7"--prototypical 2 guard size--has elite athleticism and is already a deadly spot up shooter. The only knock against him is his slight frame and suspect strength but he can definitely fill out as he grows into his body. I think if he played at a top college, he would be a lottery pick. This is the type of high reward move we should make. Also, playing overseas is probably an advantage for our team and the triangle, because he already knows how to play team ball. I think this would be a good approach. Say we draft a combination of either Ntilikina/Smith and Ferguson in the 1st round, I would be extremely happy.

I wouldn't mind Ferguson or Frank Jackson with the pick. I probably like Jackson more, but I could live with us taking a chance Ferguson. A year in the D-League would Ferguson good. I'd really like to grab OG Anunoby. He we would fill a big hole we have with our frontcourt's defensive versatility. He could develop into a younger, more athletic version of Lance.

I'm for Terrance Ferguson I think he will be a very good player.

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This explains why Ferguson's draft stock has fallen. Still wouldn't mind taking a chance on him. His skills remind me of early Wilson Chandler, with the high dribble and inconsistent pull-up J. But I think he can improve with reps and weight training.

Terrance Ferguson
Australia
Age: 19
Guard

Ferguson has watched his draft stock drop in recent weeks after struggling a bit in workouts against players like Kennard.

He's a good shooter and a great athlete, but the rest of his game needs a lot of development. Still, he's great value for the Nets at No. 27

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This explains why Ferguson's draft stock has fallen. Still wouldn't mind taking a chance on him. His skills remind me of early Wilson Chandler, with the high dribble and inconsistent pull-up J. But I think he can improve with reps and weight training.

Terrance Ferguson
Australia
Age: 19
Guard

Ferguson has watched his draft stock drop in recent weeks after struggling a bit in workouts against players like Kennard.

He's a good shooter and a great athlete, but the rest of his game needs a lot of development. Still, he's great value for the Nets at No. 27

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SocraticBallin22 wrote:If we are able to acquire one of the 1st round picks that the Blazers are supposedly shopping, Terrance Ferguson is projected to fall in this range, and I think he would be an absolute steal here.

Let's say we draft a point guard with the 8th pick, by acquiring the extra pick and drafting Ferguson, we would set up our backcourt for the future in one draft.

Ferguson is the man forgotten because he decided to play overseas in Australia and has remained somewhat obscure. But make no mistake about it, he was a top 20 national recruit out of high school with his combination of athleticism and shooting. He stands at 6'7"--prototypical 2 guard size--has elite athleticism and is already a deadly spot up shooter. The only knock against him is his slight frame and suspect strength but he can definitely fill out as he grows into his body. I think if he played at a top college, he would be a lottery pick. This is the type of high reward move we should make. Also, playing overseas is probably an advantage for our team and the triangle, because he already knows how to play team ball. I think this would be a good approach. Say we draft a combination of either Ntilikina/Smith and Ferguson in the 1st round, I would be extremely happy.

I think that Ferguson would look especially good next to Dennis Smith Jr. If we take the latter at 8, I definitely would be looking for a second pick to take Ferguson, who I view as a steal. But we need to be very patient with him and stash him in either the D-League or Europe.

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This explains why Ferguson's draft stock has fallen. Still wouldn't mind taking a chance on him. His skills remind me of early Wilson Chandler, with the high dribble and inconsistent pull-up J. But I think he can improve with reps and weight training.

Terrance Ferguson
Australia
Age: 19
Guard

Ferguson has watched his draft stock drop in recent weeks after struggling a bit in workouts against players like Kennard.

He's a good shooter and a great athlete, but the rest of his game needs a lot of development. Still, he's great value for the Nets at No. 27

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This explains why Ferguson's draft stock has fallen. Still wouldn't mind taking a chance on him. His skills remind me of early Wilson Chandler, with the high dribble and inconsistent pull-up J. But I think he can improve with reps and weight training.

Terrance Ferguson
Australia
Age: 19
Guard

Ferguson has watched his draft stock drop in recent weeks after struggling a bit in workouts against players like Kennard.

He's a good shooter and a great athlete, but the rest of his game needs a lot of development. Still, he's great value for the Nets at No. 27

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Chad Ford NBA Mock Draft 6.0 - First-round picks for Lakers, Sixers, Celtics and more
by Chad Ford on 2017-06-16 08:22:00 UTC (original: http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/19553938/chad-ford-nba-mock-draft-60-first-round-picks-lakers-sixers-celtics-more)

The NBA draft is in about two weeks, and new info is coming in. We are finding out more about what teams are seeing in workouts and debating in front offices.

This mock draft is based on conversations with NBA scouts and general managers.

1. Boston Celtics (via Nets)
Markelle Fultz
Washington
Freshman
Guard

Fultz was in Boston on Monday and Tuesday for interviews, medical testing and a workout. The information will be critical for Boston in a few ways.

He didn't do medical testing at the combine, so this will give the Celtics their first good look at his health. And with Lonzo Ball refusing to work out for the Celtics, it gives Fultz a chance to solidify the thinking that he's the best prospect for the team.

Fultz has been the top guy on the Celtics' board for a while, but he's not the only player they're considering. Ball, De'Aaron Fox, Josh Jackson and Jayson Tatum are also in the mix, according to sources.

A strong workout and interview could help seal the deal for Fultz.

2. Los Angeles Lakers
Lonzo Ball
UCLA
Freshman
Guard

The Lakers are going out of their way to stifle talk that Ball to L.A. is a done deal. Partially it's about controlling the narrative and their draft destiny, but it's also around some genuine disagreements in the front office about who's the best pick for the Lakers' future.

De'Aaron Fox and Josh Jackson have a real shot at going No. 2. Ball is the favorite, but he's far from a lock.

3. Philadelphia 76ers (via Kings)
Josh Jackson
Kansas
Freshman
Forward

The chances that the Sixers draft a guard or a wing are high -- the question appears to be which one.

There's quite a debate going on between the front office and coaching staff about who they should take. Best player available? That's probably Josh Jackson or De'Aaron Fox. Their elite toughness, athleticism and defensive potential are very attractive. The problem is that both players struggle as shooters and the Sixers need backcourt players who can stroke it.

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Best fit among available players? Malik Monk or Dennis Smith. Both players are athletic, shoot well and play off the ball (a must given head coach Brett Brown's decision to make Ben Simmons the Sixers' primary ball handler).

The Sixers still have several workouts to continue to gauge the best fit, so it's premature to put a solid favorite here. But based on the sheer level of admiration for a particular player, it's between Fox and Jackson. I'm giving Josh Jackson the edge right now, but it's a slight edge.

4. Phoenix Suns
De'Aaron Fox
Kentucky
Freshman
Guard

The Suns are hoping that Lonzo Ball falls to No. 4. They like him and think he's a good fit in their system alongside Devin Booker.

If he's not there, it will be between Jackson, Fox and Tatum. With Jackson off the board, Fox seems like an ideal fit. The Suns are loaded with offensive talent. Getting Fox's defensive versatility, intensity and playmaking should really improve the Suns and open the door to an Eric Bledsoe trade.

5. Sacramento Kings (via 76ers)
Jayson Tatum
Duke
Freshman
Forward

Fox came in to work out with the Kings this week, and there is a strong impulse to get him. They think he's a nice complement to Buddy Hield and he would really ramp up the rebuilding of their culture. The problem is that Sacramento has become his floor, not his ceiling.

The Kings also like Jackson, but he too looks like he'll be off the board before they draft.

There's talk inside the organization about combining picks Nos. 5 and 10 to move up in the draft to secure Fox. But if they found a taker, that would be a high price to pay to move up two to three spots.

Other options include Tatum, Jonathan Isaac and Dennis Smith. All three players fit a need for the Kings.

Tatum or Isaac would be a nice long-term replacement for Rudy Gay. Smith is the next-best point guard on the board. Right now Tatum has the edge. He's the safest of the three guys.

6. Orlando Magic
Jonathan Isaac
Florida State
Freshman
Forward

With team president Jeff Weltman and GM John Hammond now running the show in Orlando, you can be sure that they won't be afraid to gamble. Both of them love long, athletic and versatile players with upside, and Isaac has as much upside as anyone in the draft.

He's also one of the biggest risks. But in Milwaukee, Hammond and Weltman bet on Giannis Antetokounmpo and they won't be afraid to take Isaac.

7. Minnesota Timberwolves
Lauri Markkanen
Arizona
Freshman
Forward

We've been back and forth between Isaac and Markkanen here for several mock drafts.

Both are excellent fits for the Wolves, who are looking for a stretch-4. Isaac would offer more upside. Markkanen is more ready now and a more proven shooter.

With Isaac off the board, this looks like Markkanen's spot.

8. New York Knicks
Malik Monk
Kentucky
Freshman
Guard

The Knicks are looking at a number of backcourt players, including Monk, Dennis Smith and Frank Ntilikina.

Monk may be the highest upside player and best fit of the group. If he lands here, Knicks fans will love him when he heats up.

9. Dallas Mavericks
Dennis Smith
NC State
Freshman
Guard

The Mavs need a young point guard to build around and would be happy to take the best one that falls to them at No. 9.

Ntilikina has great size for his position, plays with strength and displays a great feel. He's also an improving shooter. He reminds me a bit of George Hill. Smith has more athleticism, shoots it better and is more NBA ready, but does not quite possess the same feel for the game.

The Mavs have scouted Ntilkina more than any other team in the league, but I think it might be hard for them to pass on Smith if he's there. He's really good and in a normal draft would be a top-five pick.

10. Sacramento Kings (via Pelicans)
Frank Ntilikina
France
Age: 18
Guard

The Kings will have to be pretty happy with this haul if they end up with Tatum and Ntilkina.

Ntilkina could be their starting point guard of the future. He's more raw than the other elite point guard prospects, but at this point in the draft he's a great get. Other prospects that will get a look here include Luke Kennard, Donovan Mitchell and Harry Giles.

11. Charlotte Hornets
Donovan Mitchell
Louisville
Sophomore
Guard

Mitchell has been one of the highest risers in the draft since his season ended.

NBA scouts are talking themselves into his elite combination of athleticism, length and versatility. Some teams think he can play some point, others see him as the next Eric Gordon. His versatility will be a strong selling point for the Hornets.

Zach Collins and Luke Kennard are also strongly in the mix at No. 11.

12. Detroit Pistons
Luke Kennard
Duke
Sophomore
Guard

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The Pistons have been flirting with trading this pick for a more established player, but if they keep it, look for them to try to nab a shooter.

Kennard wowed NBA scouts and GMs at his pro day, putting on an epic 3-point display and showing more athleticism than scouts thought he had a Duke (the Lakers recorded him with a 38.5-inch max vertical at his workout).

Kennard is getting interest as high as No. 8 to the Knicks. He's a hot name to watch right now.

13. Denver Nuggets
OG Anunoby
Indiana
Sophomore
Forward

Anunoby will be affected by what doctors have to say about his surgically repaired knee. Some teams feel it might be up to a year before he gets back to full health.

Even with the possibility he'll miss next season, I'm not sure the Nuggets will be scared off. They could use a long, athletic player like Anunoby, who can guard five positions on the floor.

John Collins and Harry Giles are other strong possibilities at No. 13.

14. Miami Heat
Zach Collins
Gonzaga
Freshman
Center

The Heat are eyeing several players to pair in the front court with Hassan Whiteside. Zach Collins, John Collins and Giles are the three strongest contenders at this point.

Collins has the unusual ability to both stretch the floor and protect the rim. He's a good athlete, he's aggressive and his analytics scores are through the roof.

He is in the mix as high as No. 9 to the Mavs. I don't think he slips past here.

15. Portland Trail Blazers
Harry Giles
Duke
Freshman
Forward

Teams are still taking a wait-and-see attitude on Giles. He was very impressive in a pro-day workout in New York last week. He showed no real ill effects from his knee injuries. He was bouncy and active and reminded some scouts why they fell in love with him as the potential No. 1 pick before his latest knee injury.

The key will be the medical results. Giles, like many of the other top prospects in the draft, didn't go through the combine medical testing and chose instead to do a private physical. Once teams get a look at those results, we'll have a better feel for whether No. 15 is too high or too low. But if feels like extraordinary value for the Blazers here.

16. Chicago Bulls
John Collins
Wake Forest
Sophomore
Forward

Collins, who is the same age as many freshmen, has a lot going for him as a long-term Taj Gibson replacement.

He shot the ball really well in recent workouts and that's improving his stock. If he can be a stretch-4 in the league, he's very good value here.

17. Milwaukee Bucks
Ike Anigbogu
UCLA
Freshman
Center

Anibogu would give the Bucks an athletic rim protector who can use strength to clear out the paint and finish above the rim. He lacks polish but has long-term potential as a defensive-minded 5.

Jarrett Allen, Terrance Ferguson and Justin Jackson are also options for the Milwaukee.

18. Indiana Pacers
TJ Leaf
UCLA
Freshman
Forward

Opinions on Leaf are all over the board. He's one of the most gifted scorers in the class and he has a great feel for the game. But he lacks strength and elite lateral quickness, making him a potential liability on the defensive end.

However, at this point in the draft, anyone you pick is going to have a glaring weakness or two. Leaf's ability to get buckets should make him valuable to the Pacers.

Terrance Ferguson and Bam Adebayo are other possibilities.

19. Atlanta Hawks
Jarrett Allen
Texas
Freshman
Center

New GM Travis Schlenk will be tasked with trying to turn the Hawks into an East Coast version of the Warriors. Alas, there is no Stephen Curry, Kevin Durant, Draymond Green or Klay Thompson at this point in the draft.

Allen is a terrific rebounder and shot-blocker. Plus, he's a fluid athlete. He just needs to add a lot of strength and work on his offensive game.

20. Portland Trail Blazers (via Grizzlies)
Edrice Adebayo
Kentucky
Freshman
Forward

This is the second first-rounder for the Blazers. They've been shopping this around and at least one team, the Knicks, appears interested. It's doubtful Portland keeps all three first-round picks.

Adebayo is steadily rising back up draft boards and a very strong pro day has scouts buzzing again, especially at the terrific feet that allow him to guard multiple positions.

Whether this pick is for the Blazers or someone else, there's real value there.

21. Oklahoma City Thunder
Justin Jackson
North Carolina
Junior
Forward

Jackson has been sitting here at No. 21 for several mocks.

He's getting looks in the late teens from teams thanks to his shooting and defensive potential, but his lack of elite athleticism and motor lower his ceiling pretty significantly.

He seems like a perfect fit in OKC.

22. Brooklyn Nets (via Wizards)
Justin Patton
Creighton
Freshman
Center

Patton had a strong pro day in Vegas and he remains a player that many scouts feel has tremendous upside down the road.

He's raw, but the Nets can throw their lot with a player who needs time to develop.

23. Toronto Raptors (via Clippers)
Jonathan Jeanne
France
Age: 19
Center

Jeanne was one of the stars of the combine and the type of player GM Masai Ujiri has been willing to gamble on in the past.

His amazing length and mobility at his size are impressive. He just needs to add a lot of strength.

24. Utah Jazz
Andzejs Pasecniks
Latvia
Age: 21
Center

Pasecniks created some buzz with a strong workout in L.A. late last week.

He's an athletic big man who can play both the 4 and the 5. While some teams look at him as a draft-and-stash option, he has enough talent to come play now.

25. Orlando Magic (via Raptors)
Frank Jackson
Duke
Freshman
Guard

Jackson's recent foot surgery has slowed his movement up draft boards, but there's a lot to like.

He is super athletic, plays both backcourt positions and shoots it well. He's a great fit coming off the bench for the Magic.

26. Portland Trail Blazers (via Cavaliers)

Isaiah Hartenstein
Germany
Age: 18
Forward

This is the third pick for the Blazers, and it makes sense that they'd invest in a draft-and-stash prospect with at least one of them.

Hartenstein is an athletic big man who just lacks refinement in his game. The Blazers can keep him overseas for another year or two.

27. Brooklyn Nets (via Celtics)
Terrance Ferguson
Australia
Age: 19
Guard

Ferguson has watched his draft stock drop in recent weeks after struggling a bit in workouts against players like Luke Kennard.

He's a good shooter and a great athlete, but the rest of his game needs a lot of development. Still, he's great value for the Nets at No. 27.

28. L.A. Lakers (via Rockets)

D.J. Wilson
Michigan
Junior
Forward

The Lakers are said to be high on this high-flying stretch-4.

When Wilson isn't boarding above the rim or launching 3s, there isn't a lot to his game, but those two attributes can get you into the first round.

29. San Antonio Spurs
Tony Bradley
North Carolina
Freshman
Center

Bradley is a mixed bag for teams. While he's a terrific rebounder with the requisite size and length to play in the league, teams worry about his heavy legs.

Does he have the mobility to thrive in the NBA? The Spurs might be willing to find out.

30. Utah Jazz (via Warriors)
Rodions Kurucs
Latvia
Age: 19
Forward

Two Latvians for the Jazz? Why not?

Kurucs is a major project, but he impressed scouts at his pro day with his combination of athleticism and shooting. He lacks strength and experience, but he's got NBA tools.

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Ferguson is a fantastic prospect. We haven't talked about him in a while. If thing not talked about enough is the toughness he's learning playing with these crazy aussies. That league is very physical. Ferguson actually punched a dude in the face for trying to intimidate him on the court. Man i can't wait till the draft. This is torture

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dwiley20 wrote:Dwayne Bacon is better

He has the skillset to be a good player but the attitude/mentality of a moron i.e. JR Smith syndrome. I'm not sure he'll ever put it all together.